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Jimmy Carter put solar energy panels on the White House to make good use of energy. Ronald Reagan had them taken out. Now Obama has put them in again to save energy/set an example regarding reducing bad energy use to energy that doesn't negatively impact client change.

It will pay for itself in 8 years with the energy savings.

http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/205683-solar-panels-return-to-white...

Great idea, and thank you, Brenda!

I've been doing some reading on "selective outrage". One example of this is the Republicans unending investigations of Benghazi.

This came from:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/05/14/1209156/-The-Republicans-Selective-Outr...

"It is really duplicitous of the Republicans to demand perfect security and perfect transparency of the Obama Administration, when exactly the opposite was the standard of inquiry when it was a Republican President conducting his haphazard war on terror.

Then tell them that Republicans are suffering from a "Selective Outrage" problem, -- otherwise commonly known as a severe "Double Standard." Perhaps even topped off with anti-patriotic tendencies ... whenever they are not in charge.

(Then be prepared for said-Republican, not to be willing to speak to you again, for at least a week, or more.)

Woo hoo! That extra-perk is free of charge."

"Four Americans died at the hands of terrorists nearly 20 months ago, and we are still missing answers, accountability, and justice. It's time that change." * House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) *

We agree Americans deserve answers from this Select Committee on Benghazi just like the eleven others prior. Other than how much money can the Republicans fund raise off this tragedy we also would like to know where's the outrage about these Republican Benghazi Fundraisers. Might the answer to these questions be published on the BengFoxi News channel.

Other than desperately investigating ways to keep health care out the hands of the poor; other than happily trying to keep food out the hands of the hungry; other than trying and mostly succeeding in putting more guns into the hands of students, customers in bars and Sunday morning church-goers; the Republicans have over-studied, over-investigated and over-fertilized the minds of their base with Benghazi.

One can almost imagine the new Republican election propagenda would read like this; Keep em scared. Keep em sick. Keep em hungry. Keep em armed and Republicans get elected.

Good points Sara. Judging from the Mike Simpson/Bryan Smith debate and Smith's comments "keep them uneducated" would be added.

A national ID card is an excellent idea Moral majority! 35% of Americans have something very much like this, a passport. I'm not seeing any worries of people having a passport being a problem for people. Of course our Founding Fathers didn't know what a passport was so it wasn't mentioned in the Constitution.

You are interested in saving taxes. Why build and guard a giant fence to stop illegal entry, when a little card for everyone will serve that purpose. It could also help with the big conspiracy theory that illegal aliens are voting for Democrats.

If people want a voter ID card, isn't that the same thing as a national ID card. It's a way to make sure that you are who you say you are.

You decide:

http://idahoptv.org/elections/2014/

Another Republican straw man surfaces or we might say, resurfaces from the depths of their sewer system. That straw man is called the * voting undocumented immigrant *. But we're sure the Republican base will hook onto this really, really scary prospect to claim voter fraud in all recent elections the conservative lost; or maybe they already drank from that contaminated well.

Next thing you know, the Republicans will claim their patriotic revolution will be won in 232 days or less. Could happen you know.

It seems our Congressman Mike Simpson is hoping that we all have short memories or maybe just weren't paying attention a few months back.

I just received a letter from him yesterday since he "knows of my interest in veteran's issues". He wanted to highlight some of his recent votes in regards to some VA and Military Construction bills.

That's just great Congressman Simpson, any idea why I might have an interest in Veteran's issues? It's because the last time we corresponded was just a few months back when the last Federal Budget was being discussed and voted on. The budget that Congressman Simpson voted in favor of. The budget that was being partially balanced on the backs of our military retirees. The budget that had certain portions not been later reversed would've costed some already retired veterans tens of thousands of dollars in retirement pay. And it's not like he was in any way apologetic about voting to cut the military retired pay, his response to me outlined several reasons why it was a good idea. Tough choices needed to be made, regardless of the years of sacrifice and the multiple deployments and combat operations we may have been in. Besides, many of us were young enough to get follow-on employment to help pay the bills. Copy, you were fully on board with cutting our retired pay.

Figuring out whether or not to support Congressman Simpson this time around? Not a tough choice.

That's a good point Northside but I have to wonder if Bryan Smith will do any better?

He did say that he would support money for the military because the Founding Fathers mentioned them in the Constitution.

The fact is that the states militia was mentioned in the original Constitution not a national military. The Founding Fathers were suspicious of a national military. Until the War of 1812 when they realized that they couldn't rely on a militia to defend the United States but needed a standing national Army and Navy which as modern times have occurred has also expanded to an Air Force, Marines, and Coast Guard.

I suspect anyone that doesn't know this and Bryan Smith doesn't seem to know that. I don't think that he is very bright and too lazy, intellectually to be a true Patriot.

I don't like Simpson either but in the debates he gave reasonable responses for voting and pointed out where Smith had lied about his voting record.

Republicans are shedding their tough talk when it comes to fighting poverty in the greatest nation in the world. Who could imagine the leading 2016 Republican Presidential hopefuls suggesting these fixes.

# "A loving family taking care of their children in a traditional marriage will create the chance to break out of poverty far better, far better than any of the government programs that we can create." * Jeb Bush *

# "The best way to turn from a vicious cycle of despair and learned hopelessness to a virtuous cycle of hope and flourishing is by embracing the attributes of friendship, accountability and love. That's how you fight poverty." * Paul Ryan *

Combine those poverty fixes with the new Republican propagenda "Keep em scared. Keep em sick. Keep em hungry. Keep em armed and Republicans get elected" and we have a recipe only conservatives would serve on election day.

Sam, I didn't watch the Smith-Simpson debate so I can't speak to how each of them performed. I do know that I had the chance to meet Congressman Simpson a couple years ago. It was away from the usual pre-canned photo-op or prepared speech. His handlers kept him on very short leash and he just didn't seem fully in command of his faculties. I'll take my chances with the devil I don't know.

Republicans like to pretend to be the Patriot Party and the Freedom Party; but in Idaho they are closed minded and like to run around all cloaked in secrecy during elections.

# "Idaho's GOP primary is closed -- meaning only registered Republicans can participate -- while the Democratic primary is open to all."

Running scared in an election is all the proof we need to understand what the Republicans mean by the word Patriot.

Northside, you make a good point, but I wonder if Smith isn't a lot worse?

I was very unimpressed with him in particular, his grasp of facts and his repetitive comments about "Simpson being too liberal for Idaho" and trying to tie Simpson's votes with Nancy Pelosi. Of course there are going to be times on bipartisan bills where they are going to vote the same.

Simpson also has seniority in Congress which helps Idaho. Smith would need years to build up that seniority.

On the other hand, I also watch the governor debates. Two candidates were a joke, one was a Tea Party member and then there was Butch Otter.

I don't like Otter but I think that I'm going to end up voting for him.

Sara, it sounds like the Republican Party in Idaho is afraid that Democrats and Independents may influence the choice of candidates which is a fear that may be based on reality.

I'm trying to understand why the Democratic Party keeps things open and I think it may be to get the Independents to be part of the candidate selection in order to give the Democrats more of a chance of winning.

I know a moderate Republican.

1. He doesn't support homosexuality but says that he supports his brother who is a homosexual.

2. He doesn't think the government is trying to take his guns but sees why some people would be worried that licensing would be a first start for that.

3. He has worked hard all of his life, but now has a serious illness and his savings and insurance will soon be depleted and he will be on welfare if he survives long enough. He will hate to, but he will take welfare for his family's sake.

4. Yes dudewheresmycar he wears pajamas to the store as he rides in his wheelchair because it is too hard for him to get dressed in more dressy clothes.

5. He would like the government to do less. He is not sure what he would cut.

6. He is a veteran and his son is in the Armed Forces. He doesn't pay lip service by not ever serving but saying "thank you for your service."

Here is to a moderate Republican, my best friend.

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Audi alteram partem; it may be up to liberals to place the moderate Republican on the Endangered Species List. The new Republican Party has no use for moderates nor wildlife it cannot legally hunt. Your best friend sounds like an amazing person.

Thanks Sara-Cooper, he is a remarkable person.

I hate to see the Tea Party dissing the moderates in the Republican Party. I have not yet met a Tea Party supporter who can factually back up what they claim. I just see silliness.

The Tea Party candidate for Congress from Idaho says that there was no Department of Education when the founding fathers created the Constitution. That is just plain a silly excuse to not support public education.

The founding fathers put Amendments in the Constitution so that the country had the flexibility to change and improve with the times.

Many of the founding fathers believed in slavery and owned slaves. They didn't think that women should vote. We don't want to go back to what was there when the Constitution was created.

That's the problem about ultra right wing conspiracy e-mails and sites, Moral majority. They can't seem to stick with the truth.

Obama attended the 65th anniversary of D-Day in Normandy. He is also scheduled to be at the 70th anniversary.

Only three other presidents have attended the D-Day anniversary in Normandy.

1. Ronald Reagan (40th anniversary)

2. Bill Clinton (50th anniversary)

3. George Bush (60th anniversary)

In addition to that the D-Day Memorial that is located in the state of Virginia in the United States, and not Normandy, was opened on June 6th, 2001. It would have been hard for all of those dead presidents since D-Day to have gone to it.

Sam, the whole seniority thing is a huge part of the problem. The fact that politics has become the primary career for so many is utterly ridiculous. Folks were supposed to have a regular career/job, gain experience, serve in political office for a period of time (emphasis on "serve") then go back to their original job/career. Professional politician should be an oxymoron, and using "seniority" as a reason to vote for someone only gives us more of the same, which isn't good.

As far as the Governor's debate, the fact that Otter refused to take on the only other serious candidate one on one and instead turned it into a circus that has since received national attention is more than enough to push me to vote for Fulcher.

Northside, you are right about the debate being a circus. I don't know if Otter turned it into one or the two wild guys did but they seemed out of control. I don't like Otter, and I don't like Smith. I'm going to hate casting my vote for governor. It will be the least of the bad and scary, which might be Otter.

Republicans think Otter lost his way when he forced Idaho into a state-run health exchange?

Everyone, including the 70,000 Idahoans who signed up and now have affordable health care insurance, understand what the Republicans want; "Keep em scared. Keep em sick. Keep em uneducated. Keep em hungry. Keep em armed and Republicans get elected"

My favorite quote was a comment that I saw in response to one of the national news stories about the Idaho Republican Governor candidates debate. It want something like this: "Just when the stupid party was trying to get smarter it just got stupider."

Otter by insisting that the fringe candidates participate made a mockery, once again, of Idaho. I still maintain however; that Fulcher isn't any better. He was in favor of common core when Idaho first adopted it and now he is against it, as he panders to the Tea Party to keep the money coming.

Northside; you said a professional politician should be an oxymoron; and folks were supposed to have a regular job and then serve in political office for a period of time; then go back to their original job.

We're concerned citizens would put such a low priority on experience for the people making laws and running the country when outside of government, the norm is completely opposite. Make some sense of this for us.

Sara, I'd rather the folks charged with overseeing the running of the country have recent practical experience in the day to day functions of running businesses, practicing medicine, overseeing factory production, producing the food that goes on our tables or the myriad of other jobs that make this country function. Instead too many of our current politicians have been insulated from the real world since they've either never held a job outside of politics, or have been away from their original career for so long their previous experience is no longer relevant. One needs only look at the current dysfunction of our political establishment to see the folly caused by the ingrained political establishment.

As I've mentioned before Benghazi is now a noun which in Republican means:"

"Oh, Please don't let Hillary Clinton run for President in 2016 because she will beat the stupid party no matter who we put up against her".

Nice try CoolBreeze, but as usual one sided to support a particular agenda. I'd talk about the 12 Benghazi's under Bush but I hate to engage in ignorant low-fact conversations.

Northside, I agree that people should have practical experience in the real world before getting into politics however; I feel that in order to adequately represent Idaho and the United States, our representatives have to have some expertise and priority for their political jobs. If their political positions are just part time, they aren't giving it their full attention.

BTW, Cool Breeze's video was presented in a way so that you couldn't easily see where it came from but it was put on You Tube on October 2013. Move on CoolBreeze. Apparently that earth shattering investigation that was discussed in the Fall of 2013 fizzled out.

What if the good ole Republican Party conducted a revolution in DC and hardly anybody came.

# Who didn't show; as many as ten million patriots;

# What they did do; up to 1,000 patriots assembled in a peaceful, non-violent, physically unarmed manner; far less than what is expected when the Volkswagen Rallycross hits DC in June.

# What was their goal; display of unswerving loyalty to the US Constitution and against the incumbent government leadership in Washington D.C.

# What mission did they fail at this time; to replace the current Obama administration with law abiding leadership.

# Their Valley Forge weather was the excuse for the low turnout; few raindrops early with frigid 70F temperatures in the afternoon.

We ask again; what if the Republican Party conducted a 10 million man revolution in DC all insulated and uninformed, and only 1000 showed; It just happened this weekend.

Just 226 shopping days left before the true patriots promise of taking their country back must be accomplished. The Boys promised.

CoolBreeze, I guess you would know what vermin, and political hacks are since that is what you clearly are.

Try to post current stuff not a rant from a Republican from October 2013 or earlier as if it is breaking news. That way we won't be so b-o-r-e-d with everything you post.

So the Republican investigators after years of trying have still not proven their case because the dastardly Democratic administration had not cooperated fully with their investigations?

That sounds like a whiny excuse to me. I'm still waiting for this selective outrage to occur over the 12 Benghazi's under Bush.

It's that time of the year when the new Republican Party drools all over themselves. Nothing like election time to encourage their party to step further and further and further to the right. If not actively encouraging voters to defund education, then it's bragging rights of who hates Obama the most. When did the measurement of hating a sitting President become an election issue anyway. Go Harley Brown; we're rooting for you.

The Misinformation Train is back on track Boys. We understand Republicans don't like liberals or even their own base fact checking their many unbelievable falsehoods; but when their word-to-misinformation ratio is close to that perfect ratio of one to one, it needs to be accomplished.

It's clear that you have nothing productive to add to the conversation Moral majority. I really wish that you'd look up that word troll so that you'd stop misusing it.

Every one get out and vote today. " deleted "

I'm looking forward to seeing the results of the primary elections today both in and outside of Idaho.

Looking forward into 2016, a poll recently released by the Washington Post and ABC News has Clinton beating the GOP front runner Jeb Bush with other Republican potential candidates way behind.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/polls/204774-clinton-leads-bush-in-hypotheti...

Sammy,

I too am looking forward to seeing the results.

I hope you lost in a large way. I voted against you on the republican ticket. I have the strangest feeling you were on there. I know of only one person with such distorted views of the political process, and I think you are one and the same.

Sam adding to what you said some people are saying that if something isn't done about immigration reform then GW Bush will be the last Republican president. This came from Congressman Gutierrez.

Sam_1776 has been called sara-connor and Wayne, and Geordey, and a guy who doesn't live here, and a local politician who lives here, plus many others.

No wonder the Republicans are so scared; of everything; anything; everyone. Paranoia runs deep in them. Choo, choo Boys.

Go Harley

It looks like "The Hill" is calling the Simpson/Smith race in favor of Simpson. The big Tea Part money abandoned Smith in April.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/house-races/206740-tea-party-candidate-falls...

Sara, on this blog I something think of the Three Stooges. Some people might laugh at their silliness but I don't like their kind of humor. I prefer subtle to slapstick humor.

Hee hee, I was able to get one of those super secret and exclusive republican ballots. I may have picked a few so-called RINOs. Ooops, apologies to the Central Republican Pullet Bureau.

Republicans far and wide have been and continue to march to the Impeach or Jail Obama meme. Screaming everything the President does is unconstitutional, illegal or bad for the USA. They want a revolution; they want to take their country back; they want it like it was in the olden days; back in the days when they thought everything was constitutional.

Ironic, laws banning marriage equality and new legalized discrimination laws in Red States are being overturned as unconstitutional almost every week; yet ObamaCare was found to be constitutionally appropriate; very ironic.

Is there something in the brain of the of Republicans that allows them to pass and support so many unconstitutional laws yet see themselves as constitutional experts. Must be a vitamin deficiency.

Some Republicans see our posts as trying to sway conservatives over to the liberal and Democratic point of view. Far from it; we understand most Republicans are caught up in the macho, gun-toting, vote Tea Party all the way, hide behind the women folk on the front lines mentality. We are just asking all people to do the research before filling in that circle; something most Republicans have never done; however we rejoice in the fact ignorance is a curable disease.

Sammy,

I see your race on the Republican ticket was closer than I thought it would be. No final reported. Did you win?

Little Dude, I have bad news for you. Your psychic abilities to determine if people are on welfare, or identifying who people are on this blog are non existent. You are an example of why some women say that some men aren't good at measuring.

I have never run for elective office.

Sammy,

I've been accurate in measuring you up. As far as non existent, that would be support in Idaho of your liberal political views. I think the results in the Idaho primary would support this. All one needs to do to measure this (and I am sure most women would agree) is to count the total votes cast on the Republican tickets vs those on the Democratic tickets. It's clear that you consider yourself some type of political player/analyst. It should be clear by now though, that your views do not measure up here in Idaho with anyone, men or women.

We are quite surprised how Republicans, both far and close, listened to our request to "do your own research". The proof is very dramatic and measurable. Tea Party candidates were crushed in almost every primary across the nation. Not only that, the big revolution planned by the Republicans and their attempts to take away some if not most aspects of liberty and freedom from the citizens is failing also.

The moderate Republicans really shined and that is good for everyone in Idaho; even us progressives. Congrats Sam_1776 for winning an election you didn't even enter.

Sara Dear,

I think the Democrats have their own version of the Republicans Tea Party. Extreme lefties. Yourself and Sam seem quite qualified in beliefs to run this party. Shall we call it the Milk Party. It seems the party is quite successful in milking our Nations citizens and then handing out straws for everyone. Maybe not so successful in milking that range cow though. Remember, don't look up.

Why thank you, Sara. A win is a win, but even better considering that I didn't have to enter my candidacy, campaign, or even be the person that Little Dude imagined me to be.

I think that the people have spoken, at least the Republicans, and not the fringe, ultra right wing ones; that moderation is the way to go.

With moderation is compromise and working within the system and just maybe making progress on a budget, immigration reform, and education.

I have to wonder if you ever read the links that you post Moral Majority. The link was not negative about Clinton. In fact it said:

"Republicans are making it clear they plan to use the power of the Benghazi Select Committee to continue to politicize the tragedy that occurred in Benghazi, which is exactly why Democratic participation in the committee is vital," a Democrat close to Clinton world said. "Inevitably, witnesses ranging from Secretary Clinton to Secretary [John] Kerry will be subpoenaed to testify, and the Democrats appointed to the committee will help restore a level of sanity to the hearings, which would otherwise exist solely as a political witch hunt."

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/05/benghazi-democrats-hillary-clinton-106978....

Look for the key words LEVEL OF SANITY.

Moral majority, I believe after seven hearings in Congress over Benghazi and more for the IRS issue, we've spent way too many millions of tax dollars on witch hunts and I think that the American people, the moderates that is, are getting fed up.

As to the rest of your cut and past post. You need to use some judgement. It contained obscenity (although misspelled)and racial baiting. You may want to consider at some point posting your own opinion and using your own words.

CoolBreeze; liberals and Democrats are not filled with hate and all that insane rage so common in the Republican Party theses days. We can and do give credit when and where it is deserved. Thanks for noticing and getting your capris all twisted up.

You do realize the Republican Primary, for example, pits Republicans against Republicans; probably not as Dr Seuss wasn't clear on that subject we hear.

CoolBreeze; first you call us crazy for praising Republicans for winning elections. Next you call us intolerant, filled with hatred, and racists for praising Republicans for winning those same elections. Vitamin deficiencies can cause very serious health issues. Hope that's all it is with you.

We ask you to do the research before supporting any candidate in all elections from this point going forward. Using scare and misinformation tactics like death panels, death lists, automagic conversions to communism, and even the wrath of god, the Tea Party fooled a fair number of Moderates in the past to support them. With diminishing Tea Party influence inside the Republican Party, these ultra right wing people are at it again. How?

They are in their end-of-the-world-because-Obamacare-is-successful bunker madly typing out e-mails and posts about their newest straw man group of "Extreme lefties" called the Milk Party. And the leader of this really, very scary group would be the scariest of all scary people; Wayne the Horrible.

What do we see next that will scare the wits out of our local Tea Party Boys; The Mother of All Pearl Harbor's at New Mexico's Organ Mountains-Desert Peaks National Monument; Hillary's fake concussion caused brain damage; evil gays might be secretly plotting to recruit your children. And these are just the scary little bits we found from yesterdays headlines.

It appears that the Benghazi hearings this year, may work to Hillary Clinton's advantage because the Republicans "will further the perception that the Republicans are an investigative party, obsessed with scandal and constantly seeking to find evidence against our leaders. The hearings can further tarnish the already badly damaged image of the GOP."

After all Clinton went through these constant investigations when her husband was president and kept her cool as the Republicans made themselves look ridiculous as they tried to dig up something, anything, and failed, to impeach Bill Clinton.

Hillary Clinton has been there, and done that.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/18/opinion/zelizer-hillary-clinton-good-news/

I stand corrected, Moral majority. Bill Clinton was impeached by the Republican majority in the House of Representatives, which means that he was charged. However the Senate impeachment trial cleared him of all charges.

Now about all this umbrage over the VA, you fail to mention that Obama has launched a massive investigations of the VA by the Inspector General of the VA to find out what is going on. Why not wait for the facts?

Oh, and the umbrage over the illegal aliens? That appears to be private citizens helping people out and not the dastardly administration under Obama.

Once again, are you capable of independent thought at all or a drone of the Tea Party willing to post anything that you think that they would like to convince people of?

Moral Majority,

You like my new term Milk Party I see. It really fits. I think there are some folks trying to add a little milk to the tea. Straws for everyone!! It's only other peoples hard earned money.

The selective umbrage isn't about Benghazi, the VA wait periods, how the IRS identifies groups undeserving of tax free status, or whether the first amendment is seriously under threat. It is about fear in the Tea Party and those that support the Tea Party.

"When you look at what animates the tea party, there are several different hatreds that are core to the tea party. They hate welfare. Especially, or particularly welfare that's understood as going to minorities. Not social security, for instance, but rather food stamps. Next, they're obsessed about Muslims and Islam. And they really see this sort of threatening, this external threat in the form of the Middle East, but also ostensibly an internal threat of Muslims coming into the United States ... They're deeply concerned about undocumented immigrants, especially undocumented immigrants from Mexico. Finally, they hate President Obama. And Obama seems to combine both this sense of welfare, of being a Muslim, of being a brown foreign other, right?" -- Haney Lopez

http://billmoyers.com/2014/03/07/is-this-really-whats-driving-the-tea-party/

Sorry folks, it isn't even about the dreaded "Wayne" that is often talked about.

Well now, it looks like the Mountain Home Tea Party Followers are united in their feeling that the best political discussion tactic is colonoscopy/brain jokes lifted from others and name calling. Continue to giggle together about your brilliant responces.

Really, Moral majority? The guy tried to bring weapons over the border and because he is a veteran he gets a pass, especially because he might have PTSD?

Yes, a much better solution is to let him take his weapons into Mexico and because he has PTSD let him have a shoot out with some Mexicans.

Bad idea. Let's let the government work with the Mexican government and see what is worked out before jumping to conclusions.

Republicans leaking more "Top Secret" memos for political gain. Shameless

http://nationalreport.net/obama-opt-national-prayer-breakfast/

A person who unintentional took a wrong turn and got into Mexico at the San Ysidro crossing shouldn't be driving; ever. Been through that crossing 6 times in the last 3 years. It's huge and there isn't any doubt in the light of day or with your eyes closed you are heading into Mexico. And he had 3 guns? Mentally unstable people shouldn't own guns except in the Republican world of crazy. Crime and time is a favorite conservative propagenda issue; isn't it

Moral majority has it right; or does he in saying America is heading towards communism. The Republicans write, vote on, and pass unconstitutional bigoted laws. And this is what they call freedom.

Compare that to the liberal agenda; be nice, be fair and speak up if you don't agree with the injustice around you. And this is what they call communism.

Ignorance is bliss and it appears the Republican party has cornered the market on blissfulness. They are also trying to gain a monopoly on stupidity by defunding education; we do wonder why Republicans are always so pouty, grouchy and mad when they have so much of it already.

Moral Majority thinks we just call people names and troll; not true at all. For example we usually provide original content and intelligent comments. Our posts are derived from an extensive reading list and critical thinking. That may be the reason our comments run over 2 paragraphs most of the time. Well thought out ideas take time to develop.

The flip side of this coin would be people who cut and paste their thoughts from the latest Republican ideologist. These type of poster usually cut and paste a webpage address and move on because critical thinking isn't one of those talents they posses.

Even better is when a satirical story is posted on the internet; instead of using critical thinking skills and doing the least bit of research the moral majorities of this world just gobble up satire like scooby snacks that fry their brains in the process. Maybe that is their talent and maybe that is their chosen career in life; playing follow their leader to the bottom. Mostly we think they make up the moral majority of the pessimists in this world. Cry wolf much Boys.

We would like to thank Moral majority for his service to his country. We know he is an USAF veterans who retired honorably. We know he was lucky enough to pick up one of the few "living-wage-jobs" in the Mountain Home area. We know he has a very important job position as a government civilian employee at Mountain Home AFB because he said so.

It appears as if Moral majority's primary job down on the military post is surfing the internet for Right Wing Conspiracy Theories, posting comments on the Mountain Home News and making darn sure Communism doesn't gain a foothold in Mountain Home. Pretty dern important job if you ask us; and we sure his commanding General is very happy with the amount of time he puts into it; and a steal for taxpayers; $40K + a year salary? ; free government shut-down vacation; government subsidized healthcare insurance; We're just so dern proud.

Shouldn't we all call the Mountain Home Air Force Post Commanding General and tell him what a great job Moral majority is doing in that very important job.

Sorry Moral majority; you never said you worked down at the base. We were wrong!

Your boss and their boss in the Government must be quite proud of the time and energy you spend posting on this webpage while slurping from the gravy trough. There is welfare and then there is abuse. In this case someone is taking advantage of the system he hates. Republicans for ya.

*** Im still serving, anyone in government employment is serving. I could care less what any of you think of me, and if we ever meet in person, I'll bet your life you wont say what you have been saying here,to my face. But that is once again hypothetical. Mabye I might get lucky though. Have a great day, commrads.

-- Posted by Moral majority on Thu, Oct 3, 2013, at 12:23 PM ***

Angry much

Moral majority; are we bold face liars because of what you said or is it your bosses really are not proud of you; Explain

You wanted to know *How many of you are there, legions?* There are more in our little group than there are moral Republicans.

It's time to start getting your facts straight, Cool Breeze, rather than an exaggeration of the facts. Remember Rick Moran's advice to you on exaggeration, hysteria, etc. You've got to stop being afraid of everything, especially that guy in the White House.

This is what happened. Obama visited Afghanistan while you were probably playing golf. His itinerary was distributed to the press, and then it was discovered that the name of the bureau chief in Kabul, along with other names was on the itinerary. The mistake was discovered and a corrected itinerary was sent out. The press agreed to not publish the version with the chief's name.

Responsible people make human errors, and then they fix the mistake, and find out how the error occurred not to punish people but to change processes to prevent it from happening again.

This is isn't exactly like lying to the American public about WMD's in order to get us into two wars on a credit card to keep big oil business happy.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/leaked-cia-station-chief-article-1.1805...

Here's a simple answer for you Cool Breeze.

"Iraq was the sixth largest net exporter of petroleum liquids in the world in 2012, with the majority of its oil exports going to the United States and to refineries in Asia."

http://www.eia.gov/

Try a little research, rather that extreme right viral e-mails and web sites.

From the Merriam-Webster dictionary.

in·com·pe·tence noun \(ˌ)in-ˈkäm-pə-tən(t)s\

: lack of the ability to do something well : the quality or state of not being competent

It is used in a sentence below.

The troll blog, was laughed at for his gross incompetence on the subject of oil and where the United States gets it.

Cool Breeze, your own link shows us importing oil from Iraq.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonk...

I'm getting tired of finding your errors because you don't read carefully what you post. You are wasting my time.

However, nice compliment Cool Breeze, to Obama for being president when the oil imports from Iraq are reduced, if that indeed is true. Your picture didn't show that, only your mouth.

gainfully employed, I would strongly suspect by your introduction, and your statement, that you are Cool Breeze, the blog troll who wants us to think that he is educated and appears under multiple names, preferring baiting people rather than discussing political issues.

I for one, am not interested in any tiresome games.

Not playing any games gainfully employed, or whoever you are today.

I read something interesting today. Fox News is now called, by some, not a News organization but an "opposition News network". This is because it is organizing protests against the Obama administration

Apparently it is okay for a news reporter to provide his or her own opinion and still report the news in a balanced way but there is a line crossed when the news organization organizes opposition, and advertises for an opposition candidate or party, or I suppose supports a particular candidate or party then a line is crossed.

Declined is saying no, or no thanks. Ignoring foolishness is just politeness. For those on the blog just to heckle, rather than discuss issues, you may be wasting your time.

Sammy,

Fox News no different than your Washington Post that you so often provide links to and quote. I agree that Fox can get a little annoying for even a conservative, but no different than liberal media sources.

Fox News does have it's vehement extreme right crazies, but it is losing a key dynamic: those between the ages of 25-54. The older lunatic fringe are eventually going to die off and despite Fox News attempts to get ratings up, it doesn't look good for them.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/28/may-cable-news-ratings-fox-news-lows_n_...

Cool Breeze, I clicked on your link and found that the article was written by Ellen Chang who produces fodder for special interests such as oil companies. medical companies, etc.

Still I kept an open mind and clicked on the links that she included in her article trying to find out about that survey and whether it was reputable. The links just took me to other similar articles written by Ellen Chang so I could see that this was just another desperate attempt to grind that old axe that you have about anything related to Obama.

What a colossal waste of time, as usual. Oh, and you can tell your new imaginary friend "gainfully employed" that I only respond to worthy questions.

53% is a lot different than 72%. It's good CoolBreeze to see you step back from your false claim, now if you can just do something about the name calling we can give you a C- for most improved on the blog.

Not to divert from the topic of hating the Obama administration and liberals just ever soooooo muuuuuch, there are other political topics to discuss.

It appears that John Boehner is starting to take actions to "punish" the Tea Party and other Republicans that aren't loyal to him. One action is taking away key committee assignments. I wonder if that will work?

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/05/john-boehner-allies-tea-party-107189.html

Thanks for the change of subject Audi. This could be effective and it is within Boehner's power to use committee assignments to get the Tea Party to toe the line but it could backfire on him.

It's bound to make people angry and they could say that they will do as they are told but eventually vote in a bloc to oust him as Majority Leader.

I personally think that he would do a much better job as Minority Leader.

Sorry CoolBreeze, but I'm not interested in your obsession with ObamaCare. I have other topics as apparently do others.

From reading an article on The Hill, it appears that Americans are tired of the ObamaCare debate and that it is still a very partisan issue but only with the distinction of which to do.

1. Improve the Law

2. Repeal the Law and replace it with another insurance law

"A majority (59 percent) said they want Congress to improve the law rather than repealing it and enacting an alternative. This question revealed another heavy partisan split, with two-thirds of Republicans favoring repeal-and-replace."

I, personally, think it is least expensive to fix and go forward.

Read more: http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/207705-poll-more-report-o-care-debate-fatig...

CoolBreeze, it looks like you post on illegal immigrants has a couple of problems. You didn't put quotes around the comments that you lifted from the news site, and your conclusions don't really match what the news site says.

From what I've been seeing the Department of Homeland Security, which is part of the Obama administration, is looking into what happened here. As far as I can see no mainstream news agency is reporting it, just local news and ultra-conservative sites.

It seems like others are waiting to gather more facts on what happened.

Back to Boehner and the Tea Party and the attempt to reign them in, it looks like Breitbart a Tea Party web site purporting to be the news is really going after Boehner.

I suspect that this is backlash on the whole committee assignment threat.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/25/Boehner-Claims-He-s-Attended-...

So if the "liberal biased press" isn't reporting about Jay Carney stepping down as press secretary then the following news agencies are then, according to your own words, not "liberal biased press" because they are reporting on them.

1. Time

2. USA Today

3. MSNBC

4. Washington Post

5. NBC News

6. Washington Times

7. New York Daily News

8. Huffington Post

9. And so on ...

CoolBreeze, I know that you are trying to make yourself look the opposite of incredibly stupid but you need to change your tactics.

1. Stop exaggerating - You are pronouncing this as an amazing event that is somehow negative about the Obama presidency. Jay Carney, according to Time, was the president's press secretary longer than any press secretary under G.W. Bush. See how you just force people to bring up Bush?

2. Check your facts.

Sammy,

Guess what day tomorrow is???? You got it....

Go to Walmart in your pajamas day. Thanks so much to the milk party.......keep handing out those straws, and keep milking those range cows.

Don't look up.....

CoolBreeze, you said that the "liberal biased press" isn't reporting Jay Carney resigning as press secretary.

That clears up, at least for you then, which news agency is not a "liberal biased press." I would have been a little more selective because I believe that MSNBC is biased although not to the extreme that Fox News is biased in the other direction. Once again this is the partial list of those news agencies reporting on Jay Carney.

1. Time

2. USA Today

3. MSNBC

4. Washington Post

5. NBC News

6. Washington Times

7. New York Daily News

8. Huffington Post

9. And so on ...

You were acting like you had unearthed another Republican scandal, but sorry, no scandal, no investigations in Congress.

To be honest, I think that you don't have much to contribute except liberal bashing and hate, or is it fear? for Obama.

Those that do not fear the head milk man and what his office is capable of, are probably sipping from one of his straws.

Really Cool Breeze? This is what you said. You need to stop those lies.

"LOL! Sammy, Obama's press secretary just quit. I suggest you email Obama a resume' ASAP! You aren't near as good as Carney was at spinning diaper loads, but with practice I'm sure you can get better.

This isn't being reported by liberal-biased news agencies because it, once again, paints Obama and his administration as inept and incompetent. I don't really know who you think you're fooling but it's certainly not anyone here."

-- Posted by CoolBreeze83647 on Fri, May 30, 2014, at 3:07 PM

I see more excuses, whining and lying Cool Breeze.

Need to get Breeze and Sammy a set of boxing gloves. My money is on Breeze.

"I see more twisting, spinning, and insults from you Samtroll. Contrary to your obvious belief, they are not good substitutes for facts and reality. Don't worry though....this isn't exactly the first time you've made a fool of yourself on this blog, and I'm sure it won't be the last."

-- Posted by CoolBreeze83647 on Sun, Jun 1, 2014, at 6:52 PM

Other than the usual name calling, do you have anything to add on any comments, CoolBreeze? How about throwing in a fact here and there to support any points that you might have?

The last fact that I saw was when you were excited by Jay Carney stepping down and were sure that it was a sign that the Obama presidency was going downhill. Unfortunately, you didn't realize that Jay Carney had been the presidential press secretary longer than any press secretary since Clinton.

Here is another topic: the prisoners that are being kept at Guantanamo Bay. When we finally withdraw from Afghanistan at the end of this year can we legally keep them imprisoned for a war that no longer exits?

"The approaching end of the U.S. war in Afghanistan could help President Obama move toward what he has said he wanted to do since his first day in office: close the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay. Blocked by Congress from releasing or transferring many of the remaining 164 detainees and able to try only a small number of them, administration officials are examining whether the withdrawal of U.S. troops at the end of 2014 could open the door for some to challenge the legal authority ... to continue to imprison them."

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/05/guantanamo-a-perverse-incent...

I can see that there are 7 hours and other commenters between the two posts from you. Logic would dictate since you aren't referring to the 7 hours ago comment, that you were referring to your most recent comment.

Still keep trying to dig yourself out of that hole CoolBreeze.

I have on the other hand moved on to the subject of Guantanamo Bay prisoners. I'd be interested to hear others opinion on that topic.

Your posting of my comment reminds me of something CoolBreeze. It's called plagiarism to use other people's words as if you made them up yourself.

Possibly if you were paying more attention in school and not working when you were 13, like so many Idaho teenagers do that don't whine about it, you might have picked up that important thing that you should never do.

Moral majority it's good to see you actually speaking and using your own words, as opposed to posting a link from a bizarre web site. What do you think about the question of the Guantanamo Bay prisoners, and how long should we be keeping them without any due process?

When we are totally out of Afghanistan then the war is over and that's usually the time when POWs are returned.

There is a new word for us to learn.

"Foxygen

The heady mix of partisan hackery, character assassination, and manufactured outrage that Fox News viewers regularly inhale.

Jon Stewart again smacked Fox News for its fury over Common's White House appearance, pointing out last night that only huffers of "Foxygen"--"the heady mix of partisan hackery, character assassination, and manufactured outrage"--would be bothered by the rapper's performance."

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Foxygen

The question about the POWs at Gitmo is interesting. This is what I know about the history of this. I know that Rumsfeld, the Secretary of Defense under Bush created it in January 2002. He said it was to interrogate prisoners in an optimal setting, a euphemism for torture. Bush said that the prisoners were outside of the U.S. legal jurisdiction and so didn't have the protections of the Geneva Convections. That means they could be tortured.

The Supreme Courts since 2004 has been saying sorry guys but this isn't a safe place where the U.S. laws and the constitution could be ignored.

The United Nations tried unsuccessfully to get it closed in 2006. The place is an embarrassment to the United States and paints a terrible picture of us.

When Obama became president, the torture had by then been stopped. Obama has been trying to shut down the facility. The Republican lead House of Representatives has resisted.

The Secretary of Defense is justifying the transfer of the prisoners this week-end by two things: (1) the powers of the President under Article 2 of the Constitution and the (2) safety and health risk for Bergdahl. This is an interesting "separation of powers" debate.

Well, that's interesting, CoolBreeze. Did you know that in 2003 this journalist/lawyer did score a first interview with Martha Stewart before she went to jail. He apparently is all over the place on the type of law that he advises on.

I noticed that he thinks that nobody is going to do do anything about the so called breaking of the law and he also admitted that Bush broke the law multiple times. You see that selective umbrage again, and how it just brings things up about Bush?

I think that I'll wait and hear from all sides before I make a decision on whether the law that was broken was a constitutional law. The founders never intended for the Speaker of the House to be involving himself in the responsibilities of Commander in Chief in a time of war. Take a look at Article 2 of the Constitution.

Wait a minute !!! What?? Coolbreeze your listening to liberal News? Did you say or was it MM who said CNN is Liberal News, therefore it can't be accurate..........

I think CoolBreeze really loves CNN but hates to admit it because it makes him sound a little liberal. However, the link that he posted didn't really support the point that he wanted to make as the person that he talked about admitted that George Bush had broken laws and also said that nothing was going to happen about that law for probably obvious thinking that CoolBreeze will have a hard time understanding.

CoolBreeze, I have another "scandal" for you. On Sunday the president was observed jaywalking on his way to church. Of course that doesn't rise to the level of an impeachable offense as lying to the American public to get them into two wars but maybe you should go for that.

I am shocked.

So, what's the scandal?.....Obama going to church or jaywalking?

The "scandal" seems to be every little thing that happens.

The article below is a very balanced look at the issues and question regarding the POW exchange over the week-end and clears up a lot of things. It does not paint a perfect picture of either side which is a good sign that it is fair.

If you are hoping for Obama to be praised to the skies or denigrated in the extreme, don't bother reading this because you will be disappointed.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2014/06/bowe_bergdahl_a...

Audi, I read your post about Guantanamo Bay and the history of it. It was very accurate, and I agree with some of your conclusions on this.

Moral majority the source of your claim is "a commander of the Haqqani network, a militant outfit allied with the Taliban with ties to Al-Qaeda".

So you get your news from the Taliban now.... Interesting!

Moral majority, did you not notice that Brenda said that the name calling should stop?

I don't defend Bowe Bergdahl. Like you I don't have all of the facts yet. It's my understanding that because of his health he hasn't been interrogated yet.

Cool Breeze, it looks like no parade for Bowe Bergdahl had been planned however some buffoon on Face Book on a Conservative hate page announced that the parade (which didn't exist) was cancelled. -- And another viral rumor is started again.

The town of Hailey has asked that people wait and let due process be carried out in regards to Bergdahl. That means wait for the investigation and what Bergdahl has to say in regards to the accusations and wait to see what the military wants to do.

Hailey is having a 4th of July parade and it doesn't seem to be cancelled either.

From the sounds of things, whether Bergdahl, is guilty or not, the last POW from American for the IRAQ and Afghanistan war has been released and a lot of people are happy about that.

I didn't mention the Obama Administration, Moral majority. I mentioned the military. I believe that the military will decide what to do as they have more information.

This is what the military says.

"Our first priority is ensuring Sgt. Bergdahl's health and beginning his reintegration process," McHugh said. "There is no timeline for this, and we will take as long as medically necessary to aid his recovery."

The Army, he added, will "then review this in a comprehensive, coordinated effort that will include speaking with Sgt. Bergdhal to better learn from him the circumstances of his disappearance and captivity. All other decisions will be made thereafter, and in accordance with appropriate regulations, policies and practices."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-defends-decision-to-...

The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) proposed a 30% decrease in power plant carbon emissions by 2030 which is a good thing.

Apparently Republicans in Congress, including Boehner started issuing "talking points" about how that was the worst thing since hominy grits. The trouble is, they forgot to read the proposal from the EPA and so were wrong on most of what they said.

To enjoy this further, the link is below.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/03/gop-epa-carbon-rule-fact-check_n_543873...

What's more important? The livelihood of those in the coal industry and saving the planet for future generations?

I don't have to prove anything to you. Who do you think that you are?

There are people that understand science and what is happening with Global Warming that will realize that we need to start taking care of the Earth like other countries of the world have already realized.

Global warming is a scientific documented fact as most people realize. The warming is occurring near the North and South poles, melting the ice there. This causes a cooling in the central areas of the globe.

There are a lot of alternative energy sources which can be implemented. Coal is very bad for the atmosphere. Energy solutions should be considered on their long term effect. Short term considerations are usually shortsighted.

A simple explanation of Global Warming is in the link below. I am not going to be diverted into a debate with you something that has clearly been proven.

http://www.kidzworld.com/article/17859-the-kids-guide-to-global-warming

And of course you try to refute Global Warming with an Obama hate site. It's hard to not laugh at your feeble attempts.

Moral majority, some people like you and CoolBreeze hate Obama out of proportion to anything that he has ever done or said. That's why you only want to read "hate Obama web sites" but they are definitely a minority of web sites.

I found an article that I think pretty much describes why some people really hate Obama.

"As shocking as this may seem to some of you, there are some people in this country who just don't want to see a black man be president of the United States. Or any none white person for that matter. But definitely not a black man. They say this is a white country and should be ruled or governed only by white people, preferably white men.

To these people (including some in the congress) President Obama can do no good. He could walk on water, bring the dead back to life, wipe out world hunger, bring peace to the world and they'll find a way to find something wrong with what he did. Because it's not about what he did. It's about what he is.

All you have to do is type white supremacy into Google search or a search engine of your choice and read the contents of the various white supremacy sites. Or visit the Southern Poverty Law Center's website, (they tracks hate groups) and those of you who don't want to believe that in this day and age that the President's race is the problem, will receive a rude awakening!

Of course not everyone who doesn't like the president is a racist. Some may have legitimate political differences with him. That's oK. They can disagree with him and have a civil discourse about it without spewing hate and hostility.

Some people don't know that their negative racial feelings are fueling their fear and hatred of President Obama and would be mortified to think that they harbored any such feelings.

But, psychologically, when someone automatically experiences intense hatred, dread or other such emotions about someone they don't know, it's usually a sign that they have underlying subconscious feeling they aren't acknowledging.

It's like a phobia, where someone reacts to a fly as if it's a grizzly bear about to attack them! Their reaction is out of proportion to the danger they're actually in.

A phobia is a conditioned response, a subconscious alarm system that says, when you see situation or person A, trigger emotional reaction B!

People like this wouldn't know why they have such intense anger or hostility toward President Obama, but may unconsciously project it on to something else about him that would keep them from being aware of the true reasons for their intense dislike of him."

http://vveasey.hubpages.com/hub/Why-Do-People-Hate-Obama

If I had seen approval of a single action, or comment from Obama from some people on this blog, I would disagree with you Sam. The fact is that Cool Breeze and Moral majority are two examples of people that are instantly against anything the president does or says.

For example, the Bowe Bergdahl matter. They immediately got incredibly upset about the whole thing including how many Taliban had been released, whether Congress had been notified, and decided that Bergdahl should have been left behind.

Leaving our soldiers behind isn't what America does. Nixon brought the POWs back from Vietnam. There wasn't a filter to only return the soldiers who had done no wrong.

When a sailor falls off a ship an investigation isn't made on how and why the sailor fell off the ship. Instead the ship turns around and retrieves the sailor. Then he is asked what happened.

This seems to be intense and unreasonable and could very well be an underlying racist attitude that maybe they don't even realize that they have.

A recent poll showed the Americans of both parties disagreed with Rove discussing Hillary Clinton's brain and age. It is believed that the "numbers may also indicate that Rove is a decidedly flawed messenger to carry such questions in the minds of a majority of the public." Some felt that his comments were sexists.

It might be good for the Republican Party to dump Rove has their chief strategist.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/05/28/americans-overwhelming...

CoolBreeze regarding the town of Hailey and the celebration. You said parade and I said no there had been no parade planned and no parade cancelled. Now you are changing it to celebration and saying that I lied. It seems to me that you are lying about me lying.

What you failed to mention in your post was that they are hate calls. Kind of like what you and Moral majority are doing only you are doing it on this blog.

"Jane Drussel, the president of the Hailey Chamber of Commerce, has been fielding dozens of angry calls.

"Well, (I feel) disappointment number one, just absolutely total surprise at how bad some of them are," she told NBC News on Tuesday.

...

She said the staffers at the Chamber of Commerce, and at a store she runs, don't know how to deal with the vitriol.

"(We're) really surprised at the people who are calling -- they are hate calls, they're not just people voicing an opinion," she said. "The girls just don't even... we're all just absolutely in shock, we don't know how to respond to that to tell you quite truthfully."

Sorry CoolBreeze but you still have it wrong. It was an event not a parade, however people started imagining that it was going to be a military event.

BTW, this is a yearly "Bring Bowe Back" event that was going to be "Bowe is Back" event however with the vitriolic e-mails the town was concerned about violence.

Don't you think that it's time to stop the constant heckling. If you truly some points you don't need to heckle to make them, just state them.

http://www.kmvt.com/news/local/Hailey-Community-Members-Want-To-Cancel-Bring-Bow...

"Hailey, Idaho ( KMVT-TV / KSVT-TV ) - The Hailey community members who worked during March and April of this year to organize their annual Bring Bowe Back event have asked to cancel that celebration. That's the word from the city of Hailey who issued a news release.

The City letter said that, "When the news of Bowe Bergdahl's release was announced this past Saturday, the organizers joyfully declared that the event would be renamed Bowe is Back, and would become a celebration of family and friends being reunited with their son who was had been held captive in Afganistan for five years. In the past, the event had been a celebration of support to the family through these many years."

The letter from the city went on to say, "National media attention on Hailey and this event has led many across the nation to believe that the event is intended to be a military parade. There is broad interest in this topic, as evidenced by the approximate 100 correspondences per day received by the City of Hailey this week. The organizers and Hailey expect a significant increase in attendance to this event, by people who both want to support or protest against it."

"In the interest of public safety, the event will be cancelled. Hailey, a town of 8,000, does not have the infrastructure to support an event of the size this could become."

Wow! CB you are having some anger issues. Why not follow Kelly's advice and wait for the facts?

That is a good idea, CoolBreeze. It seems to be item 4 of the president's proposed plan which was proposed on January 16, 2013 to stop gun violence.

The President's plan includes:

1. Closing background check loopholes to keep guns out

of dangerous hands;

2. Banning military-style assault weapons and high-capacity

magazines, and taking other common-sense steps to reduce

gun violence;

3. Making schools safer; and

4. Increasing access to mental health services.

Of course he is having a hard time getting the House of Representatives to vote on any Democratic initiated bills, and the Senate Republicans have been filibustering bills in the Senate.

Maybe since a Republican is suggesting the law, the Republicans may get on board. The link that you posted also said that Democrats have called for this in a similar bill which offers broader reforms to mental health programs.

The full text of the Obama plan is at this link. I'm glad to see that you are now supporting something that Obama proposed.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/docs/wh_now_is_the_time_full.pdf

CoolBreeze, in response to your comment let me say this.

1. Only my mother and wife get to call me dearest and you are neither. I've observed that you use these names as another form of name calling which I believe is not allowed on this blog.

2. I am not going to list obvious things for you. However I will supply the following link that should help you out.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/magazine/march_april_2012/features/obamas_top_5...

I've wasted too much time on you already. I've observed you don't listen to logic and facts and only insult in response as you attempt to "win" an argument. I don't expect to be spending a lot of time responding to you.

Just curious but why do you think that people in Idaho are interested in a state senator from California, Cool Breeze? I thought someone told me that you were from California which might explain the interest but as an Idahoan I really don't care that much about California politics.

In regards to your comments about Hailey, Idaho. (See quote and link below.) You apparently didn't read what their local news said. From what I saw on tonight's news they made no political statement about Bowe Bergdahl on cancelling the once a year event but didn't consider their town's infrastructure big enough to handle the large number of outsiders planning to attend what they mistakenly thought was a parade.

Also, what is this never-ending interest that you seem to have in the "undies" of various liberals on the blog? That seems a little perverted. Please check in about the mental health part of your insurance policy.

http://www.kmvt.com/news/local/Hailey-Co...

"Hailey, Idaho ( KMVT-TV / KSVT-TV ) - The Hailey community members who worked during March and April of this year to organize their annual Bring Bowe Back event have asked to cancel that celebration. That's the word from the city of Hailey who issued a news release.

The City letter said that, "When the news of Bowe Bergdahl's release was announced this past Saturday, the organizers joyfully declared that the event would be renamed Bowe is Back, and would become a celebration of family and friends being reunited with their son who was had been held captive in Afganistan for five years. In the past, the event had been a celebration of support to the family through these many years."

The letter from the city went on to say, "National media attention on Hailey and this event has led many across the nation to believe that the event is intended to be a military parade. There is broad interest in this topic, as evidenced by the approximate 100 correspondences per day received by the City of Hailey this week. The organizers and Hailey expect a significant increase in attendance to this event, by people who both want to support or protest against it."

"In the interest of public safety, the event will be cancelled. Hailey, a town of 8,000, does not have the infrastructure to support an event of the size this could become."

Time to change the broken record. There is now an organization that gathers up deleted tweets from politicians and then reposts them together with other deleted tweets from other politicians.

It was pretty embarrassing for some politicians that expressed pleasure for Bergdahl returning from captivity and then deciding that it was more politically correct to not be happy about it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/06/04/attention-politicians-...

Here is another issue worthy of some umbrage. This is about gerrymandering. This is when county, and state boundaries are manipulated in order to favor a particular candidate or party.

In Alabama the Republicans did this to put most of the black people into Democratic districts so that the Republicans could have an easy win on the other districts. Alabama isn't the only state to do this, however the Supreme Court has decided that it will hear the Alabama case.

This appears to be a 1st and 14th amendment issues and goes against the Voting Rights Act.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2014/06/02/supreme-court-will-hea...

I see 4 more posts of anti-Obama hate Moral majority so clearly your search for "hate Obama" is causing you to find what you want.

I should caution you on one of these that was kind of unusual. That is the CNN iReport. CNN cautions its readers about these reports in this way.

"How is this section different from the rest of CNN.com?

Everything you see on iReport starts with someone in the CNN audience. Stories submitted to CNN iReport are not edited fact-checked or screened before they post. Only stories marked "CNN iReport" have been vetted and cleared by CNN."

Note that the report that you posted clearly says at the top of it "not vetted by CNN".

Sam it sounds Like Mm is saying that he enoys posting garbage links with non factual opinions. The more that they spread Obama hate the better.

I guess he enjoys living in hiw own little hate filled world. He isn't going to grow and improve as hard as anyone tries to encourage him too.

There are too many false posts to respond to. Didn't you post about 10 just today? Why not pick your top 3 favorites and I'll comment on them?

I heard something pretty funny from a reporter today. He said if Obama got up and walked across the Potomac River tomorrow, a small, but vocal, minority of very loud Republicans would start saying "Look he can't swim!"

No, I wouldn't say that he was the messiah. I'd call some former Idaho people that went to Missouri to wait for the end of the world 20+ years ago and are still there and say "hey, maybe you should move to Washington D.C.".

On the 3 items, I'm quite aware that no matter how much proof I supply you won't believe it because you want to believe what you want to believe, Moral majority, and no fact is going to convince you otherwise.

However, every once in a while I'll prove that your facts are either unverified or not true and even if you don't believe it logical thinking people may.

CoolBreeze, this sounds more like something for Entertainment Tonight or whatever the Kardashians are up to these days and how exactly are they part of the "left wing" of America? I don't think that you get to make those assignments.

Anyway, Hollywood probably doesn't interest most people that are serious about political issues on this blog. After my initial roar of laughter, I was pretty quickly bored by the video.

When you continue to post negative. distorted things, always directing your vitriol towards people that are not as extremely conservative as you, you should expect that I will comment.

Time to get over yourself. You don't speak for everyone on the blog because amazingly enough you, Moral majority, dude, and any additional imaginary friends are not everybody that posts or reads the blogs.

Sam_1776 I care what you think.

So if you're keeping score it's "nobody" minus 1.

It seems to me that a lot of the hyperbole over Bergdahl, Benghazi, the IRS, the VA issues, and the ACA are tied to the fund raising efforts on behalf of the Republican Party.

I found an article where the "Stop Hillary PAC" blatantly uses "antipathy" over Hillary Clinton and complaints about Benghazi to raise money for conservative campaigns. It is an eye opener.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/05/benghazi-stop-hillary-clinton-pac

"nobody" minus 2.

Moral majority, since you requested that I respond to 3 things where your information is accurate and for me to take my pick.

Refutation 1 of 3 - 2 more to go

Your comment about Barack Obama being the only president to not honor D-Day - Posted by Moral majority on Fri, May 16, 2014, at 3:04 PM

This is refuted in the following link.

"Between 1944 and 2014 -- a span of 70 years -- four U.S. presidents have attended D-Day memorial ceremonies a total of seven times, and Barack Obama attended two of the seven."

Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/dday.asp#8mm9HBzWD2u48XAL.99

Moral majority - Refutation 2 of 3

You said:

"Even one of your own, Is finding it impossible to allow this administration to spin the Bergdahl story. And you wounder why I said I would not wait for the official investigation to be finished, its already tarnished by remarks like the ones in this article."

http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/04/matthe...

-- Posted by Moral majority on Thu, Jun 5, 2014, at 3:43 PM

When you listen to the entire video it is Chris Matthews asking tough questions of the journalist who answers them explaining the thinking of the people in the White House. He never says that the White House was "swift boating" as the title of the article says. He objects to the term and the journalist said that no, he wasn't saying that the White House was swift boating but that Republicans were doing this in trying to get a rush to judgement. Matthews agreed with that. At the end of the video, Matthews thanks the journalist and says this is a difficult situation.

So number 1, Matthews is not "one of our own". He is a responsible journalist looking for answers. It seemed like a balanced video looking at all sides.

By the way MSNBC still has the video on its site. It is only the extreme right web sites that are providing a skewed version of what he really said, for example the link that you posted.

Moral majority - Refutation 3 of 3

You said:

"Yet even more lies from Obama:"

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/cbo-quietl...

-- Posted by Moral majority on Thu, Jun 5, 2014, at 1:54 PM

The article says this. It never said anything about anyone lying.

"In April, the agency quietly signaled that it can no longer make that projection; that the law had been changed and delayed so much that there is no longer a credible way to estimate the long-term effects on the deficit of all elements of the program taken together.".

Moral majority in my refutation 1 of 3 I made the following statement.

"Moral majority, since you requested that I respond to 3 things where your information is accurate and for me to take my pick."

I meant to say inaccurate but made a typo. Note that was not a lie but a typo.

Breeze,

I am not sure, but don't unemployment numbers only include those seeking work? The milk party has handed out an awful lot of straws. I bet if you re-phrase the term from un-employment to percentage of working age adults not employed the number would be closer to 20-25%. That might even be conservative. Most numbers released by politicians are meaningless anyway. Going to be a nice weekend to get a few holes in.

One question that people wonder about is why some people hate to hear about good economic news.

An obvious answer to me is that for this blog, some people hate Obama and want his presidency negated so good economic news is a positive sign for Obama's presidency which is not what they want.

But I did some more research on this.

One writer said that when there was good economic news and those hearing about it were not moving forward financially they have the feeling that they "are being left behind". That gives them stress which leads to anger.

http://pragcap.com/why-most-people-hate-good-financial-news

Another writer said pretty much the same thing but added good advice for us.

"Optimism, as the theoretical physicist David Deutsch so brilliantly describes in The Beginnings of Infinity, doesn't mean surety about good future outcomes. Optimism is simply the certainty that any human progress to date has been a product of our collective ability to understand how things work and to craft solutions. The conviction that the present is a prelude to a bad future negates that collective ability. Yes, we may indeed be at the end of the line, but by angrily dismissing optimistic arguments we are likely to fail more rapidly. Why bother striving for constructive change if you firmly reject the possibility? That leaves only one viable alternative: to envision a path forward. That path may not materialize, but striving to find it is a vital component of creating the future we dream about, and not the one that we fear."

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/12/why-do-so-many-people-hate-o...

So go play golf, on the public subsidized golf course and commiserate with each other about the "lies" about the economy. I'm going to get to work. My 2nd quarter bonus should be pretty good.

Cool Breeze, your list of supposed lies, is being posted on various die-hard conservative web sites which are really not news, just conservative propaganda sites. Anyone that has a serious interest in politics would be right to ignore them.

Aside from that, I'm wondering why you chose to post them? Could it be that Sam's information hit a little bit too close to home and you wanted to hide it by a long quote from a web site? Or was there something else that you had in mind?

Internet trolls have some behaviors that have been noted. I won't list them all, but the following seems to apply to your comment.

"Trolls will start many off-topic threads, seeking to derail users from the focus of an online community."

http://netforbeginners.about.com/od/weirdwebculture/f/what-is-an-internet-troll....

In a nut shell. This country is and will continue to be run by special interest groups. All political decisions are made with special interest groups in mind. That's where the money comes from. The golden rule applies " he who has the gold makes the rules". American Politics 101.

It's tempting to respond to an Internet Troll however most people think that ignoring them is the best thing to do. The news on the economy is encouraging. I'd like to see more progress on a bi-partisn budget.

Audi on the STOP HILLARY PAC and raising GOP Money, I didn't see the one that you described but for some reason I ended up on a mailing list to contribute to various conservative candidates. They start with a hyped up story about various democratic crimes and then beg for money.

More habits of an Internet Troll from the same article.

"Trolls will incite broad arguments and provoke angry responses by making controversial statements. (e.g. racism, religious intolerance, bigoted or elitist views, mysogyny, extreme political views".

Examples of extreme views meant to incite are:

(1) claiming that liberals think Obama is the messiah

(2) suggesting that the President of the United States is crazy.

Geordey, I also get e-mails and invitations from the Liberty Party of Idaho. They tried to convince me that Mike Simpson was "too liberal for Idaho". I haven't been solicited for money yet. I've been meaning to go to one of their meet ups but haven't yet.

http://netforbeginners.about.com/od/weirdwebculture/f/what-is-an-internet-troll....

CoolBreeze, on the article that you posted.

"Origins: Sam Vaknin is a real person, he has written a good deal about the subject of narcissism (including the book Malignant Self Love: Narcissism Revisited), and he did pen an article in which he opined that "Barack Obama appears to be a narcissist." However, the article reproduced above, although it references Dr. Vaknin's writings and includes a header suggesting he is its author, is an excerpt from a 22 September 2008 article written by Ali Sina.

Sam Vaknin is careful to include a disclaimer on his web site stating that he is "NOT a mental health professional" (his CV lists no training, degree, or clinical experience in psychology, and his "Dr." title derives from a doctorate in philosophy obtained from the unaccredited Pacific Western University), and he notes in his introduction to the article cited in the preceding paragraph that "only a qualified mental health diagnostician can determine whether someone suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) and this, following lengthy tests and personal interviews."

Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/vaknin.asp#uRIKVpjrBHYZF80z.99

Just as a personal aside, I agree with a lot of conservative beliefs and think that conservatives can make good arguments to back them up. I object to anybody posting derogatory things that are blatantly false. I like to look at both sides of an argument but first you have to present an honest side for that argument.

I was taking another look at the question of cutting carbon emissions. The EPA has a goal and people in Kentucky are facing the fact that they need to stop relying on coal for jobs and for energy and need to look at alternative forms of energy. I think that this is a good sign that people are willing to make the sacrifice to keep our planet safe. Hopefully the rest of American can help ease the pain of the transition.

According to the article that I read, the people in Kentucky have seen the writing on the wall. Jobs from mining coal have been decreasing already and they know that they need to make a change.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/08/us/though-not-quietly-kentucky-moves-to-cut-re...

That's good to hear about Kentucky coming around on coal emissions, Sam. I'd have to conclude that they are looking at the situation and deciding to do what is right.

Related to this, I heard someone that I don't consider to be very bright claim that conservatives were more moral than liberals. I didn't think this was true so I looked into it a little more deeply and found this.

A recent research study shows that most Americans think of the Democratic Party as more "trustworthy" than today's Republican party, that Democrats were more willing to work on solving problems, even by reaching "across the aisle", and that they cared about "regular people".

The poll also showed that the majority of Americans felt that the Republican Party consisted of more "extremists."

The author of the article notes that "With the combined effect of draconian bills attacking women's reproductive rights and right wing religious extremism, the study reaffirms the notion that attempts to cater to the fringe elements that show up at voting booths has failed for the most part."

The link below takes you to the full story.

http://aattp.org/new-study-proves-most-people-think-democrats-are-more-ethical-t...

The above article had some bias in its conclusions so I looked a little further. I found this in a science journal, which I think is a fair appraisal of the situation.

"Rather than finding that liberals think conservatives are immoral, and conservatives think the same about liberals, we found that all three groups shared exaggerated moral stereotypes about partisans on either side. These moral stereotypes were basically that liberals don't care at all about loyalty, authority, and sanctity, and that conservatives don't care at all about compassion, fairness, and equality. The findings suggest that liberals and conservatives, while differing systematically in their moral worldviews, are actually more similar in their moral judgments than anyone thinks."

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/12/121212205604.htm

So the next time that a conservative says that they hold the moral high ground, or a liberal says that they are more moral because they care about people and fairness, they are both wrong and both right.

Breeze,

Nice job holding your own. At least your thoughts and ideas are yours, and not from some article that you read. The milk party doesn't quite know how to handle independence of thought. Its' a shame though. The more straws the milk party hands out, the more votes they will receive election time. These straws are buying votes, and the percentage of voting Americans that have been given one is growing. I suppose you could use that as an argument that Obamas followers might not be that insane. I'm surprised that the straw for more conservative capitalists is still in place. Work your tail off, retire, transfer all your assets, wait five years and grab a straw. And a respirator if you live in Kentucky, or find your self standing to close to the rear of a raging liberal.

Audi, I chuckled over your first link and found some truth in your second link. However, while there is some truth to what you are saying about liberals and conservatives in general, this doesn't seem to apply to those getting their kicks from being Internet trolls. There is no moral high ground there just a need to satisfy an inadequacy either from a dead end job or a general unhappiness with life.

CB you keep putting yourself in the position of being corrected. Your "noted psychologist" isn't even a psychologist. This would be funny except that it is so sad.

What caused your error is what I like to call a Mitt-err. That is when someone makes an error in an argument through only reading untrutworthy sites. I see that happening a lot with more hard core conservatives and with some demagogues of both parties.

Is a demagogue some sort of Catholic?

Dude while you are looking up the word demagogue or Catholic you may also want to research a new product which should reduce the emmissions coming from you. The product name is "clean cow".

I called nobody a name. Let's stick to the facts, CB. Clean cow is a new drug that has come out that is supposed to prevent damaging emissions. You should look it up.

BTW threatening the president on a blog is way over the top.

A new study has found that people become more racist when times are economically hard. This is from the "Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America" journal.

It's clear that racism in the United States still exists and may explain the Republican stance on immigration and welfare. Those with stronger "zero-sum" beliefs were affected more. An example of a zero-sum belief is "When blacks make economic gains, whites lose out economically."

I wonder if this is a partial explanation about the unreasonable, extreme hatred shown towards Obama?

What lies Moral majority? The responces to the Congressional committee are the same as the first relaying of events. The author was sarcastic showing his bias but hating Obama doesn't miraculously turn a true statement into a lie.

Yes Cool Breeze we know that you can always find lists of reasons to hate Obama.

The Atlantic published a pretty telling article this month called "Americans: Still Pretty Judge-y".

It said that Gallup said that the majority of Americans think that our moral values aren't good. It said "The most interesting thing about this isn't that Americans are exceptionally grumpy about their neighbors' moral fiber -- it's that they've always been this way."

Rather than look for reasons to be judge-y maybe we can just stick with real issues and true facts and discuss them in a non judgemental way. Just a thought.

It looks to me that the only ones using MSNBC for information is Moral najority and Cool Breeze. Maybe they should stop?

You left out an important headline from WND Cool Breeze. They have also alerted us to signs from the stars. They report that "the moons are flashing red warning lights at a heavenly intersection saying to Israel as well as the nations they will be crossing heavenly red lines and if they do, they will understand as Pharaoh did on Passover night 3,500 years ago that the Creator backs up what he says."

Maybe WND has found something in the stars about the incredibly amazing conspiracy of who is transporting those children illegally into the United States.

When your far right doom and gloom web site keeps repeating in its blog that the major news networks aren't posting this news a few things should be considered.

1. Your link is not a news source. It's just a blog.

2. Reputable news sources prbably think the currency that Russia uses is not significant whether it is the ruble, the euro, the dollar or the Kalamazoo. All currencies trade at their value including the level of confidence.

I also am wondering about a Russian agency providing news for you. Aren't you worried about the "red" rubbing off?

I never said "The Tea Party is Dead" so for you to say that you recall this I'd have to conclude that you are unable or unwilling to be honest.

It will be interesting to see how the Tea Party candidate will do in the general election. The Republican Party is turning on itself. They've tried to help themselves through gerrymandering and denial of the vote. Those are just short term tactics such as telling lies to try to get a dig in.

Sam to your point about the Kalamazoo (smile) the modern world is going to have all kinds of ways to handle monetary transactions. BitCoin for example. A few decades ago American 50 dollar bills were very much in demand in Russia due to the inflation there bringing the value of the ruble down.

It's time for our conservative fans to move forward with the times and also stop using Russia and the Taliban as their source for news.

If anyone wants to have a better understanding of the attempts to cross the border from Central America NBC and Newsweek have some good articles.

If you want to convince yourself that Obama is to blame for this, by all means, read WND.com.

If you want sane and reasonable people to laugh at you be sure to post more fictional, ridiculous links

from WND.com.

I think that I can understand your confusion on this Moral majority. One organization says 79 incidents and another says 15 incidents. Nobody is lying except examiner.com which suggests that others are lying. And of course they are suggesting that CNN is lying.

The differences in numbers depends on the criteria for what is a school shooting. Check billmoyers.com/2013/05/03/gun-violence-since-newtown/ for the criteria used and links to the actual incidents.

What is it with liberals and lying. Do you really think Breeze gets on here to lie? If one group posts numbers on un-employment with one criteria, and another with a different criteria, are they both lying? Childish liberals really need to get a grip. And yes Breeze, I agree with you on the MH News. They seem to be leaning quite far to the left. I have had a couple posts deleted while just poking fun at Sammy. And yes Breeze, Central America is making a complete joke of the Obama administration shipping all those children to our borders. Even they see the weakness in his policy and are taking complete advantage. It appears his administration feels that the minority vote is worth it all. It makes you wonder who is funding the bribes to the Mexican officials and coyote's as these children are paraded to our borders. That in itself has to be a small fortune. If this is to continue to be the administrations policy, the humane thing to do would be to build adequate facilities at the borders to house and care for these children. I cannot imagine anything more cruel than to use these children in this manner. I can't even come up with words to describe it. May God Bless these poor children and keep them safe.

There are some significant Supreme Court decisions coming up. One that I found interesting is Susan B. Anthony List vs. Driehause. According to Newsweek this is a 1st Amendment rights decision. Currently you can lie about your opponent and be protected by the 1st Amendment. Some states criminalize intentional lying about candidates. Whether they can do this may be decided.

Moral majority your many anti Obama posts and links leads people to the conclusion that you just want to trash Obama no matter how absurb the claim is or how lowly regarded the web site is.

You do realize that part of ending a war is returning POWs right? So why the comments about that instead of complaining about what is currently happening in IRAQ? Where is your perspective?

Sam your comment about the 1st Amendment has the potential of having a big impact on politics as we know it today.

People shouldn't be able to hide behind the 1st Amendment in order to knowingly lie about anyone even if he or she is a candidate or an office holder. Examples of this is Moral majorities many links but is also illustrated by Karl Rove speculating that Hillary Clinton has brain damage. While they don't know those are lies there is such a thing as due dilligence when passing on negative assertions.

I'm just wondering which of you is dougee?

I think that I know. Mr. Mister do you think that it should be against the law to knowingly lie about a political candidate or office holder or are they just fair game?

Happy Fathers Day to all, conservatives and liberals alike. Enjoy the day.

On the subject about lying about candidates, 17 states have laws against it. In Idaho it is apparently okay.

I'd like for the law against lying to take it a step further which is not only should lying about candidates be allowed, but lying about current office holders in order to affect the chances of other candidates.

Obama is no longer a candidate however the current lying about him probably has the intention of affecting the elections of other Democratic candidates both in 2014 and 2016.

http://uspolitics.about.com/od/CampaignsElections/fl/17-States-Make-it-Illegal-t...

Speaking of lying about candidates or office holders .... Moral majority, I see that you are still posting false/misleading links.

1. On the "Obama's new brown shirts harrassing veterans", the link was factual. Your summary was way off. It appears that there was some kind of drill at a Veterans Hospital where soldiers/police showed up in black uniforms and did some general disruption and inconvenienced and possibly frightened some wounded veterans. The author, Benjamin Krause, himself a wounded veteran and an advocate for wounded veterans rights objected to the drill. Thus far he does not know who ordered it and the purpose of it.

Unfortuantely, in the United States we do have people walking into public buildings and shooting people so drills do need to be conducted for all types of things. The recent shooting in Troutdale, Oregon is an example of what happens when a school is prepared through drills. Lost lives are kept to a minimum. Shortly after the shooting, the students heard through the speaker "There is an active shooter in the school. This is not a drill. Take cover." Their teachers then locked the classroom doors. A few students that weren't with a teacher shut the door to the room they were in and put desks and chairs in front of it to keep anyone from breaking in. Drills are sometimes needed.

2. On the "One stop viewing of the current administrations Communist policies:" link is merely a blog which posts a ton of links none of which seemed to be current or worth while. If your goal is to try to find a reason to hate Obama and stay misinformed be sure to read those.

3, On the "A few things about Bergdahls dad:" this is an attempt to add fuel to the hate fire against Bowe Bergdahl being returned to the United States by attacking his father. You are hoping that the hate, once set ablaze will connect to whom you really hate which is Obama.

What a miserable, sad bunch of links. I wasted my time looking at them, and felt a little sick and dirtied from the experience. I hope that you got something from posting them.

Moral majority, the link that you posted wasn't on "Obama's illegal actions". I'd suggest that you read it more carefully.

It is an article by Mona Charen, a person that was dismissed by CNN because she had a fight on the air with her colleagues. She is part of the radical group that blames everything that happens on Obama, and disagrees with every action that he takes. It must be true that you are just posting junk links. Are you afraid to discuss issues?

Here is something to consider. The government has captured a key suspect in the Benghazi attack.

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/benghazi-suspect-captured-107944.html

Something else to consider. A poll agrees with Obama on Iraq. No more American boots on the ground.

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/iraq-barack-obama-john-mccain-107937.html?...

You see, there are bigger issues out there than someone's laptop and e-mail messages.

Here is a good question and comment from George Will for those Republicans wanting to be President of the United States.

"Here is a question for Republican presidential aspirants:

Given the absence of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, and given that we now know how little we know about "nation-building" and about the promotion of democracy in nations that need to be "built," and given that Saddam Hussein's horrific tyranny at least controlled Iraq's sectarian furies, and given that Iraq under him was Iran's adversary, and given that 10-year wars make Americans indiscriminately averse to military undertakings -- given all this, if you could rewind history to March 2003, would you favor invading Iraq?

Obama is conducting the foreign policy retreat that he promised, that then-Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton facilitated without apparent qualms and that many Americans said they wanted until it began to make them queasy. The Republican challenge is to articulate a policy that fills the vast space between this retreat and the ruinous grandiosity of the "freedom agenda" of Obama's predecessor."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/obamas-foreign-policy-of-retreat/2014/06/...

George Will asks some hard questions.

Very hard questions. Something for all that supported those two wars should carefully consider as they want to go to war again in a country that is "war weary". Some people think that those that advised us to go to war two times under Bush shouldn't be allowed to advise us again on that subject.

On another subject, the right wing web sites and news media: Fox News and Drudge are apparently having a hard time finding out what is wrong with capturing the guy that led the attach on the Benghazi embassy. They seem to be taken aback. Drudge is responding to this good news with the an article about the high prices of chicken.

I'm sure that they will find something wrong with this and uncover another scandal. So far the best that Fox has come up with is that the timing is contrived to help Hilary Clinton on her book tour.

It sounds like you, Moral majority, should be on trial for reading too much from the right wing echo chamber. Or laughed at.

What do any of you suppose is the "fixed standard" referred to in one of this week's letters to the editor?

"...a testament from our forebears about the inextricable Christian values (mortar) that are the root of our legal and cultural compass."

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?r112:H09FE2-0018:

I'm glad that you asked that Dave. I think that the "fixed standard" is a Christian standard, so the author was trying to say that we can only be a Christian nation and therefore don't tolerate other religions. I am not sure which version of Christianity satisfies the standard as there is quite a lot of variation in the Christian religions.

The same religious intolerance can be seen in the same author's reference to Obama as "Barack Hussein Obama". Including the name Hussein is intended to show that Obama has a "Muslim" name. Never mind that he was like other Jr.'s, as Obama is, are stuck with the name of his father, including the middle name of Hussein.

Anyway, although Obama is a Christian in this country it should be alright for him to be a Muslim, just as it is alright for him to be black, and alright for him to be an expert on constitutional law.

Did anyone watch the president's address on TV a little while ago? He is sending military advisers to Iraq and wants to negotiate peace and is putting pressure on Iraq's leaders to do so. The military advisers may help later with target air strikes. -- Very worrisome times, and hard decisions.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-announces-he-is-send...

Yeah right.

Better fuel the automobiles now. And storage if you have it. Pressure on Iraq is meaningless if they do not respect him. They do not respect any type of sanction from the President. Jets and a lot of them. Now that might get their attention.

I found the two letters to be typical ultra-right wing stuff with one letter adding bible thumping, as well as an attempt to brand Obama as a Muslim because of his middle name. CoolBreeze liked to do that a lot.

I once knew a male soldier whose middle name is Ethyl. He was saddled with that name because in the Middle Ages that was a man's name and it had somehow never disappeared from his family line. It didn't mean that he was living in the Middle Ages or that he was a woman. He was just saddled with a family name.

On another topic, "The Atlantic" had a great and thoughtful article on the Republican party using tokenism to try to make them look less bigoted. The article concludes that the Republican party should come up with a more meaningful solution.

"First, candidates and elected officials should stop suggesting that non-whites are parasites looking for handouts. The notion that African-Americans support Obama solely because he is black, or "just like them" also needs to be critically re-examined. Finally, the GOP will need to stop acting like it believes that exemplary people of color like Scott should show and teach the rest how to stop obsessing over its racially charged policies."

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/12/tim-scott-tokenism-and-the-l...

You are right color does not matter. I wouldn't care what race a person was if they were handing me free money, allowing me to enter this country illegally and then giving me free money. If I lived in a Latin American country and was looking to move, or qualified for free money, the guy would be right at the top of my like list. I'd even golf a round with him. He does golf you know.

Now you want to talk about subsidized golfing, WOW.

"First, candidates and elected officials should stop suggesting that non-whites are parasites looking for handouts. The notion that African-Americans support Obama solely because he is black, or "just like them" also needs to be critically re-examined.

Hmmm, may want to re-examine that statement Audi

https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video;_ylt=A0SO8z6aQaRTTlEA3DxXNyoA;_ylu=X...

Thanks for the posting Audi. I like "The Atlantic" myself. It goes into more depth on subjects.

Yes Joe, I can see that you can do a Search in Yahoo for "i voted for obama because he black". You can get what you want to see when you do that, and can find individual exceptions, but you can't get the overall truth. Like 58+ million people voted for Obama your search didn't even come close to refuting that basic fact.

On another topic, I thought that it was interesting on the election of the House Majority leader. I wonder when the Tea Party will find out that a non-Tea Party conservative got the spot? There is bound to be screaming about that.

With the discussion of the two letters, I feel that some things should be noted about one of them. It is entitled "Nation must follow the Bible's moral compass".

It begins with a false statement. It says that the Declaration of Independence is a "codified law". People can call it a codified law, and Congress can say so, but alas the fact is that the Supreme Court uses the Constitution as the basis for its decisions not the Declaration of Independence. The Declaration of Independence was a document expressing why we wanted independence. The Constitution is the document that are the agreed upon laws that we are governed by and it is significant that it began with 10 amendments, the "Bill of Rights".

Self-evident is another error. It doesn't mean that it can't be questioned. It means only that the signers of the Declaration of Independence felt that some things were self evident or obvious to all of them.

It discusses a creator. This is where our fore-fathers moved away from a Christian Only idea of the United States. If they wanted to say the Bible and God that includes Jesus Christ, they would have said it. Instead they left religion out of the conversation up to free people to decide on.

I found the letter to be an attempt at scholarship, but failing throughout.

I suspect that Cool Breeze in particular will take offence at my comments and may find a typo in my words to refute me. That's fine. The main points are covered. I won't go into the other errors at this time, however, I found an element of bigotry in the letter that needs to be mentioned. I don't think that the Bible encouraged bigotry.

Moral majority when you say "libbies" you seem to be referring to Sam but then you seem to have an in depth knowledge of how the "libbies" think. Are you a libbie yourself and could you give us more information about your people?

You have hit the nail on the head, Audi. Although Congress over a hundred years ago put it in the U.S. code it really isn't used as the law of the land. You have to consider that the Declaration of Independence was a justification to other countries including England of the United States to be independent of England. It's words are out of date. "All men are created equal" was not thought to include women and blacks at that time. The Constitution as the true law of the land has been amended on this.

Further examples are below from the free legal dictionary.

"Although the Declaration of Independence stands with the Constitution as a founding document of the United States of America, its position in U.S. law is much less certain than that of the Constitution. The Declaration has been recognized as the founding act of law establishing the United States as a sovereign and independent nation, and Congress has placed it at the beginning of the U.S. Code, under the heading "The Organic Laws of the United States of America." The Supreme Court, however, has generally not considered it a part of the organic law of the country. For example, although the Declaration mentions a right to rebellion, this right, particularly with regard to violent rebellion, has not been recognized by the Supreme Court and other branches of the federal government. The most notable failure to uphold this right occurred when the Union put down the rebellion by the Southern Confederacy in the Civil War."

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Declaration+of+independence

The most disturbing things of the letter, beyond the Declaration of Independence inaccuracies was:

1. The lie of Obama saying that we are not a Christian nation.

Obama didn't say that we aren't a Christian nation. On June 28, 2006 Obama actually said. "Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation -- at least, not just. We are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, and a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers."

According to factcheck.org, there are some on the right who are sending the quote out through viral e-mails, web sites, etc. as an organized effort to stretch the truth always removing the word "just". Removing that word turns the quote into a lie.

2. Saying that we are a Christian nation without mentioning that we are not just a Christian nation. I believe this and the comment about diversity being bad is bigotry.

3. Referring to the President by his middle name: Hussein to imply that he was a Muslim. He happens to be a Christian. This appears to be again bigotry in action.

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/08/obama-and-the-christian-nation-quote/

Drifting off to another subject, Bill Maher took a look at those gun owners that think they should be carrying their guns into restaurants just because they want to exercise their gun toting rights. He calls them "ammosexuals".

His piece is pretty funny and makes a good point for those interested.

www.billmaher.com

Good link Geordey! I saw someone packing a pistol in his holster at Wal-Mart. You could see it and his big belly when he reached over to pick up his groceries. Very unimpressive!

Like Maher says, this country has an extreme view of guns and there are people out there that are carrying guns that don't have the judgement to be carrying a gun. I certainly don't want "big belly" pulling his gun out to protect Wal-Mart. He might miss and shoot someone that I care about.

You might want to listen to Dennis Miller on Fox. He's pretty funny too.

Dennis Miller probably should have stayed with Saturday Night Live, or in movies such as "What Happens in Vegas" than trying for conservative humor.

"The nature of conservatism does not meet the conditions necessary for political satire to flourish: conservatism is harmonized and slow to criticize people in power, and it originates from a place that repudiates humor because it is absolute."

This is from "A Conservative Walks Into a Bar: The Politics of Political Humor" by Alison Dagnes.

Moral majority, I think that you will find this web site as beneficial as the ultra right wing, not-really-the-news-but-pretending-to-be sites that you like to read.

http://barackobamaisyournewbicycle.com/

Too funny, Sam! Moral majority you should love this because you can keep clicking on the link that appears to get more good information.

I should have added this one.

http://sadtrombone.com/

Not enough good guy ammosexuals with guns to stop the bad guys; http://aattp.org/customers-at-gun-range-held-at-gun-point-in-attempted-robbery-a...

It's good to see you back Sara.

It's looking to me like the ammosexuals are much like the Republican Party and the Tea Party. They are both in the same group with some of the same issues yet they are at odds with each other.

http://sadtrombone.com/

Moral majority, I have a new word for you to learn. It is "woo". It is when someone believes anything no matter how ridiculous.

naturalnews.com is a site full of "woo" for people who mostly don't believe in science. These are vaccine deniers, quack cancer medicine devotees, global warning deniers, and conspiracy theorists of modern medicine, Obama, and gun control.

So good job on coming up with a really bizarre web site. Also on copying the sadtrombone like I had posted.

"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery." - Charles Caleb Colton

So, thank you!

Prominent Republican busted by his own words. Sad but true. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/24/jon-stewart-dick-cheney-blame-game_n_55...

It has been my experience that vaccine deniers, quack cancer medical supporters, and anti-theorists of modern medicine tend to hang out on the far left side of the fence, wear sandals, and eat all organic.

Prominent Republican Says Ted Cruz Sounds Like A Racist. http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2014/06/24/3452413/ted-olson-slams-ted-cruz/

And Sara, busted by Fox News of all organizations, after he thought that he had a safe haven for an interview.

Back to the topic of ammosexuals, shouldn't Idaho's legislature prevent them from marrying their guns? At the very least people should be forbidden from cheating on their spouses with a gun. After all shouldn't marriage be between a human being and another human being?

Here some people who think that their rights supersede the restaurants' rights to not having a bunch of guys with rifles walking into their restaurant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KumfRnoC9Mo

Maybe ammosexuals will become an endangered species. It appears as if Obama is coming to get your guns after all. OMG, even we cannot believe it http://nationalreport.net/obamas-secret-gun-control-negotiations/

I knew that in the end, WIT would have something to do with it.

Voter fraud and Republicans. What is worse or are the equals. http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/24/wisconsin-republican-donor-busted-for-voti...

Interesting Sara.

When 100 kids die because the good guy with a gun shoots; Bad guys need not apply as the good guys have this one covered.

http://everytown.org/article/innocents-lost/

There was a runoff primary election between a conservative Republican in Mississippi, who has served in Congress for quite a long time, and a Tea Party candidate. The election was close and moderate conservatism won. This is the concession speech, that isn't a concession speech, from the Tea Party loser. He still doesn't realize that he is out of touch with what the country is and what it needs.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/posttv/politics/chris-mcdaniel-this-is-not-the-par...

In November, I'm curious to see if the Democratic candidate will now win as the Republicans have seemed to destroy each other.

Sam, that election was interesting, as was the Lankford/Shannon primary. The tea party failed to win there too. The Atlantic thinks that the significant question about these elections is about the future of the Republican Party.

"It's about discovering whether the Republican Party has within it a silent majority intent on taking the party back from its more extreme elements, and potentially becoming a national party again, or whether the angry fringe is dominant."

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/06/how-the-tea-party-blew-it/37...

Sam and Sara, it appears that gainfullyemployed Moral majority, or both, have posed questions that they think are made of gold and all conversation must stop in order to answer the golden questions. Perhaps they don't notice that the wonderful, golden questions are a waste of people's time.

At least they are in agreement with each other as if one opens his mouth and the words come out of the other's mouth, always synchronized as if they were one person.

Keep up the entertainment gainfullyemployed and Moral Majority.

Appears Republicans have just as much trouble following local rules as they do creating Constitutionally acceptable laws. From Mountain Home to Utah the facts tell the story. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=325506590&ft=1&f=

Geordey, I agree with your analysis of the situation.

Sara that is good news.

Moral majority your link from Scott Trade's the Daily Ticker is correct and is in fact something that the president and others have been saying for years. Thanks for helping to make our point. I guess there is some advantage to me when you don't bother to read the links that you post.

The rich are getting richer and the middle class and poor are getting worse off (in general). This is why the tax laws need to be changed to make the rich pay more, and laws such as the one recently passed by the House but which won't make it through the Senate allowing even more abuses by the wealthy individuals such as the Koch brothers. The article on that law can be found at the link below.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/24/koch-brothers-wall-street_n_5525566.htm...

Moving on to the topic of improving the economy. flackcheck.org has a short educational video that is easy to understand about how the Congressonal Budget Office (CBO) report is being used by some conservatives to fool people into thinking that increasing the minimum wage would cause a massive loss of jobs.

This video is a real eye opener. It shows some possible negative results and also shows the economic benefits which includes getting a lot of low wage earners who may be gainfully employed, but still needing some welfare of some kind such as food stamps.

http://www.flackcheck.org/video-wire/the-proposed-minimum-wage-increase-may-2014...

Good video Sam. I knew about the benefits before but this is an easy to understand use of media to separate the lies from the facts.

Pssssst - do you think that someone should break it to gainfullyemployed that politics is the topic and we don't need to answer his questions to stay on topic?

Wow, Republicans have troubles following rules; Republicans find it easy to pass laws that are unconstitutional; Republicans find it difficult to even follow basic gun safety rules; a loaded handgun at an airport checkpoint; let freedom ring; http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2014/06/24/birther-leader-joseph-farah-caught-with...

Wow! Sara, did you know that World Net Daily is one of Moral majority's favorite web sites. That guy needs a psychiatric evaluation before he gets to have any more access to guns!

Maybe the judge will order it?

I misspoke. It wasn't Moral majority but Cool Breeze that has been posting wnd links.

Sara,

Valuable insight on fire prevention. Great analysis. Thanks.

Republicans are getting more brazen with their unlawfulness. Breaking and entering into a Governor's Office; let freedom ring. http://www.timesdispatch.com/news/state-regional/what-occurred-here-sunday-is-un...

It likes dirty tricks to officially deliver a document on a Sunday in order to reduce the time that the governor had a chance to review and decide on whether he would approve it.

Over the past week or so, GainfullyEmployed has asked 6 questions, I'll go ahead and try to answer them.

"1.When any sort of bond or levy is proposed that is going to increase property tax, should renters have the right to vote? Or should it be limited to property owners?"

Of course rental tenants should get to vote, they pay property taxes too. Any landlord who is going to stay a landlord is tallying up every expense providing residential housing for a monthly rent incurs - including property taxes - before calculating the amount that rent will be. The idea renters don't pay property taxes is a peculiar myth, an offshoot of a reluctance to recognize consumers as a driving force in the economy.

"2.When the county or state is faced with a budget shortfall and they start talking tax increases, is it better to increase property tax, or sales tax?"

Depends on what the two tax rates are, how they're structured, what payroll tax rates, services fees and licensing, earned income tax rates, unearned income tax rates and corporate tax rates are and how all of those are structured, how much the state, county, or municipality spends and on what, and how much debt the entity is carrying among other factors.

In my opinion, and speaking broadly, earned income taxes and payroll taxes should be the last to be increased and the first to be cut. Unearned income taxes - capital gains, inheritances and estates - should be first to be increased and last to be cut.

Idaho has an income tax of 1.6 to 7.4 percent. If cutting wasteful spending (and we would probably disagree about what that is) and restructuring taxes on capital gains and inheritances doesn't free up enough money to completely eliminate the income tax, I could see raising both property taxes and sales tax - but just to get enough to completely abolish the income tax.

I enjoyed this blog from The New Yorker.

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)--Speaker of the House John Boehner (R-Ohio) said today that he plans to sue President Obama for violating the United States Constitution with what Boehner called "his outrageous practice of accomplishing things."

"The United States Constitution guarantees the American people that its government will be free from activity," Boehner told reporters. "Again and again, President Obama has broken that sacred trust."

Ripping the President for his "willful insistence on doing things," Speaker Boehner said that his lawsuit was intended "to restore the inaction and inertia that have been the hallmarks of our democracy."

The Speaker acknowledged that suing the President was an extreme measure, but added, "I take this step only after exhausting every other method to prevent him from getting anything done."

Concluding his remarks, Boehner said that he hoped his lawsuit would send a "powerful message" to President Obama: "If you stubbornly continue to take actions that result in tangible outcomes, you will be very, very sorry."

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2014/06/boehner-calls-obama...)

Republicans hate foreign sports and sports that liberal Moms like? Sad; let freedom ring; http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2014-06-25.html

"If the government is subsidizing your food, food stamps, it's welfare. Correct?"

The food stamps program is a very narrowly-tailored, specific, straightforward program. Yes, it's welfare, and I believe most people, people who would disagree on what other programs count as "welfare," would agree it is welfare.

"If the government is subsidizing your health care, affordable care act, it's welfare. Correct?"

The Affordable Care Act is a much broader set of policies and laws than the foods stamps policy. It's intended to be more comprehensive and to address many disparate elements of health care.

One PART of the Affordable Care Act expands eligibility for Medicaid, and a PART of another part authorizes subsidies for some of the Americans who buy an insurance plan from the online state/federal exchanges - not all, not even a majority.

Another part of the Affordable Care Act bans the insurance company that takes a chunk of my paycheck every two weeks from weaseling out of financing any future treatments for what it would like to label "pre-existing conditions" I might develop.

Another part requires that the insurance company that, again, I pay every 2 weeks, pays for any hospital stays I might need in the future, after years of paying this insurer twice a month.

Another part, to discourage price-gouging, sets a minimum percentage of gross revenues insurers have to spend on policyholders' medical treatments. If they fail to maintain that threshold the insurer has to return money to policyholders.

So, two of the five provisions of the Affordable Care Act I've listed - and there are hundreds I haven't - are "welfare."

Two other provisions protect me, and people like me who work for a living and pay for our private health insurance policies, by making it harder to deny us the services for which we've already paid.

And the fifth provision makes it harder for the insurance company to overcharge those of us who pay for our own insurance policies.

These provisions - and other provisions that also protect the rights of consumers to actually get what they pay for, and not overpay to get it - are not welfare.

"Who needs an AR-15 to buy legos or baby toys?" The ammosexual and fearful wing of the Republican party is who; let freedom ring; http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/06/guns-target-store-open-carry-texas

Obama to Call for End to N.S.A.'s Bulk Data Collection; Why would Republicans say no? let freedom ring; http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/25/us/obama-to-seek-nsa-curb-on-call-data.html?_r...

Moral majority, I'm wondering if you are a liberal or a conservative?

Your link with your dire "The ship is sinking fast:" is about Obama Care and is just another boohoo over Obama Care. This is the sound of Obama Care working.... no more excitement, just an occasional statistic.

Your link saying "The Constitution continues to mean nothing in todays America:" was interesting because it is complaining about privacy rights in America, something that we began losing in 2001 with the excuse of fighting Bush, the president at that time. Yes, American's gave up their rights. Yes, we are all bummed about it.

Sara, this gun carrying into restaurants and stores appear to be having a backlash. I saw an article that the NRA wants those yahoos to cut it out. This is dangerous to be hauling guns around these places, and like at many a gun show some idiot will accidentally shoot himself or an innocent bystander.

On another topic what about that stupid Boehner stunt to sue the president? A good article on that is below. Boehner has now said that he is introducing legislature to allow him to sue Obama. Good luck on getting that passed in the Senate. Boehner has got to be the most pathetic majority leader of the House for decades.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/27/obama-john-boehner-stunt_n_5536655.html...

Republicans don't like ObamaCare because sick people can now get treated in the greatest and richest nation this world has ever seen. let freedom ring.

Instead of "fighting Bush" I meant to say "fighting terrorism under Bush".

This is where it starts getting harder to answer GainfullyEmployed's questions while abiding by his or her silly caveat that I can't mention what conservatives and Republicans have proposed and done.

"Did the ACA not add millions to the welfare roles?"

One part of the Affordable Care Act added about 3 million to Medicaid enrollment; Under another part of the ACA somewhere between 4 and 5 million will get a subsidy to pay for part of the private health insurance plans they bought on online exchanges.

And as I listed last night, other parts of the Affordable Care Act protect my consumer rights without adding anyone to the "welfare roles." I pay about a $150 a month, my employer pays similar amounts that could otherwise be paid directly to me and my co-workers or used to hire more co-workers to carry some of our workload. And, when we need to use the services for which we've paid, we pay additional co-payments.

I'm not interested in any repealing or replacing of the Affordable Care Act that eliminates or weakens the rules that the insurance company that I pay - and that has hit me, more years than not, with rate increases greater than I've ever seen my federal taxes go up by - has to actually then pay for future medical treatments I may need.

I'm not interested in any repealing or replacing of the ACA that treats the money my employer and I pay for health insurance as taxable - which at least one Republican plan would do, and would effectively be a tax increase on me, my co-workers, and millions of other Americans.

I'm not interested in an ACA repeal that lets insurers go back to price-gouging.

I wasn't interested, before it was passed, in Republican demands that each and every provision of the ACA be scrapped. I'm not interested in repealing all of the ACA now, to be replaced by some vague, ever-shifting pablum about how awesome the free market is.

And I resent the implication that either denying the president a victory in reforming health care or denying 7 to 8 million people - many of whom work and hold jobs - assistance with paying for medical services is more important than making sure an insurance company I've paid thousands of dollars doesn't find a way of skipping out on their end of the bargain if on some future date I get a hefty hospital bill.

I especially resent it because all 7 to 8 million of those people - thanks to a policy passed by a Republican-majority congress and signed by President Bush - would still get services from E.R.s, and insured patients like me would get to pay for whatever medical bills those 7 to 8 million are delinquent on and for the overhead of collections to browbeat them into paying at least some of it.

There is nothing standing in the way of any person, Republicans included, of living the life of an 18th century Luddite. Problems arise when these luddites try to insist via unconstitutional laws that all must act, live and believe in their theocratic and olden day ways; let freedom ring; http://www.gopfaith.com/video-message-from-faith-director-chad-connelly/

No, ha ha, I don't think of today's times as the "Age of Reason" which followed the Middle Ages.

1. People who believe in science also believe in God.

2. I've never heard of any deity called the "sky god".

3. Some people in this country still say sir or ma'am but why go back to sir or ma'am why not go back further to sir or madam since you want to live in the past?

4. I don't think that I've seen any Christians ostracized for believing in God but have when they try to impose their belief on others.

5. Prayer before meetings still happen. They happen in Congress but sorry Christian prayers have to take their turn with other religions.

6. We eat at the dinner table without the TV on, if you are not and don't like it, change things.

7. Some people still have fathers and some don't just like always before. Maybe we should stop all of these wars to help with that. The difference is that now fathers can't abandon their families so easily.

8. Parents believe teachers but if they are good parents they also listen to their children and hold them accountable for their grades. If anything homework has gone up maybe way too much putting too much pressure on our students.

9. I love my neighbors that deserve loving. The world hasn't changed on this.

10. Crime has always been a problem.

11. Drugs, including alcohol has always been a problem.

12. Americans freely love whatever deity they choose, or they choose not to believe or not to love. That's why this is a free country.

Time to get over this wishing for a past which wasn't all that good.

gainfullyemployed; you are right, I quit my job and started my own business; gasp; Now my family has health insurance thanks to ObamaCare; gasp again. When the Republicans have a plan other than ER rooms, let the nation know with a real bill. Simple sounding concept that President Obama helped get accomplished already; let freedom ring.

Warlords Bush and Cheney could find Saddam's secret weapons of mass destruction but did Iraq's ISIS find them yesterday? This changes everything; let freedom ring; http://nationalreport.net/isis-uncovers-saddams-hidden-wmd-stores/

Only a fool would have believed that Saddam did not have these weapons to begin with. SUPRISE!! Who might these fools have been? A crazy man with un-limited money. Really?

Dude, Sara is teasing us. Her WMD article is from a satire website, the same one that screwed up Fox News when they reported on one of their articles and had to take it back.

She gave you the news that you were desperate to hear so you picked right up on it without of course any research. You were in a state of "woo".

Congratulations Sara on going into business on your own. That takes a lot of courage and I wish you success.

Just when I was thinking that I had laughed at conservatives enough for today, it turns out that there is more. The Oklahoma Republican Primary on Tuesday, won by the incumbent Republican in Congress, election is being contested by his Republican opponent.

His opponent says that the incumbent can't win because he is really dead. The "dead" incumbent claims to be alive.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/27/frank-lucas_n_5537217.html?ir=Politics

gainfullyemployed; you are wrong about being part of the problem and wrong about my business.

Sam_1776; Republicans are much more tolerant of one segment of our population as your link plainly shows. Comedians worldwide are thankful.

Yes, Bill Maher makes tons of money off the crazy Tea Party people.

Since someone was complaining about welfare, where is the outrage over Corporate Welfare? The top 1% economically are, for the most part, the biggest gimme people for welfare.

"The right has always been obsessed with moochers. But Boeing receives $13 billion in government handouts and everyone yawns, when conservatives should be grabbing their pitchforks."

http://www.forbes.com/sites/taxanalysts/2014/03/14/where-is-the-outrage-over-cor...

Hear more good guys with guns are shooting other good guys with guns at a gun show. Safety first except when a Republican is handling guns; let freedom ring; http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/cops-vendor-shoots-woman-pennsylvania-gun-sho...

Interesting story Sara. His excuse was he didn't know the gun was loaded. When I was growing up, I was told to do two things with guns (1) always check to see if the gun is loaded and (2) always treat the gun as if it is loaded.

The Republicans are already making plans if they take control of the Senate this election cycle; they must think turning the calendar back to the 1950's is progress; let freedom ring; http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/210903-mcconnell-id-fight-to-limit-abortions-...

Here are more examples of corporate welfare and how much they cost taxpayers, mostly the middle class, to support these moochers.

Conservatives, when these corporations are telling you they need their welfare to survive they are LYING to you! They are in general just greedy. So stop sucking up to them and tell them to pay their own way! You have been living in a state of "woo" for way too long.

Yes, they pay taxes but due to their welfare they pay at a much lower rate than the middle class.

1. State and local subsidies to corporations - $80 billion/year

2. Direct federal subsidies to corporations - almost $100 billion/year

3. Federal tax breaks for corporations - $200 billion/year

4. Federal tax breaks for wealthy hedge fund managers - $83 billion/year

5. Subsidies to the fast food industry - $243 billion/year to pay for public benefits for their workers because they don't pay them enough to stay off welfare.

6. etc.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-quigley/ten-examples-of-welfare-for-the-rich-...

One Republican on here thinks our President has been "livin' on the peoples' back"; this same person has been slurping out of that same government gravy trough for well over 20 years. Wonder if he uses a glass of Tea Party to wash down all that Gravy and Hypocrisy; let freedom ring

Does he really believe that "woo" or is he just willing to make up things to try to forget his own situation? I have to wonder.

The Republicans 2 year conspiracy whine of Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi not enough support or firepower. The Republican 30 day conspiracy whine of Iraq is invade again but not with troops unless Obama doesn't send troop because we'll find the WMD's this time or Benghazi; confused?; that's the Republican plan; let freedom ring

Moral majority, the "birther" lies about Obama and his birth certificate have been refuted over and over again, yet you are still posting these false either knowing that they are untrue and just wanting to spread lies or because you are unwilling to do any minor research.

This is all refuted in the link below.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/birthcertificate.asp#dx4374RgV1uTL...

The ironic thing is that it doesn't even matter where Obama was born. His mother was an American citizen. That fact alone makes him a "natural born" American citizen. So .... bottom line is that only the birthers are lying, and there are no lies about his birth certificate. It's very tiresome having to keep refuting your "woo rants".

Here is a link related to the birther falsehood provided by Moral majority. I thought that many would enjoy this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxD9W3KoHgU

Foreign grant? Moral majority are you just making it up as you go along?

The snopes link refutes the birther lies, which includes picture of the birth certificate. All anyone has to do is click on it. I'm not going to flood MHN with a long cut and paste.

Ok, here is a cut and paste. Note that that the hospital that Barack Obama was born in shows on the birth certificate as: Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital a name that it had from 1931 until 1971.

Moral majority, do people have to read things to you now?

"The former Kapi'olani Maternity Home became the Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital (where Barack Obama was born) in 1931, and it retained that appellation until 1971, when its name was shortened to Kapi'olani Hospital. The Kauikeolani Children's Hospital (where Barack Obama was not born) was a separate entity which merged with the Kapi'olani Hospital in 1978 to become the Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women and Children."

Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/birthcertificate.asp#zCJIR4AtiTyl7...

Moral majority you are wasting my time by your refusal to see beyond the woo that the ultra right has fed you.

For those that want the truth they should read the snopes link. For those that want to believe as Moral majority does and live in a desperate land of woo where there is constant hatred, and unhappiness listen to his feeble claims.

It's over Democrats. A sad day. Obama will not be running for a third term in 2016; why you ask? The Republicans are suing the President of the United States and there is no way a sitting President with a lawsuit of this caliber hanging over his or her head could win. What grounds are the Republicans using in this lawsuit? They're not sure yet but they will come up with something. No worries though; Hillary in 2016

Maybe they will sue her because she is a woman, or worse yet, a woman with a profession? No, first they will start yet more Congressional hearings regarding her.

1. Inquiry on the state of her brain.

2. Inquiry into college and law school transcripts and any papers that she wrote as a college student.

3. Inquiry into every e-mail that she sent as Secretary of State.

I'm sure there is more that Boehner can think of. He has time. He isn't working on passing any laws.

A local Republican revising history multiple phony scandals at a time in a Letter to the Editor; and she has the bravery to say *For those of us who attended school when history was still being taught*? Hypocrisy much? let freedom ring

I think it is time for Idahoans to give the Republicans a "time out" for two years to get over this propensity to shut down government and even their own convention when everyone does not agree with their ideas. They need to get over "power to the party", learn to negotiate, and adopt "service to the people" as their motivation.

Every day, huh Moral majority? Take a look at the date on your wnd link. 2012.

Unbelievable!

Were some of our local Revolutionites in Georgia today; lucky the good guy with the gun ducked to the right or the other good guy with a gun would have taken action on this first week of guns everywhere; let freedom ring; http://www.valdostadailytimes.com/todays-top-stories/x1736693358/First-day-of-ne...

There is nothing wrong with being a homosexual Moral majority but I think it is just as likely that he came from the planet Mars.

The fact that you think that alleging that Obama is homosexual tells a lot about how you don't like to really research what you claim and your own prejudices/fears.

Fact to Ponder; Adolf Hitler outlawed Trade Unions in 1933. Will the Republican Party attempt the same; let freedom ring

8 million previously uninsured people now have health insurance. The Republicans want to do what; repeal and throw 8 million out into the wild west of the uninsured again. bring a plan to the table or stop the whine

You can say that again Sara. Also, it's time to stop the silly games such as "the lawsuit" which seems to have replaced the silly game of the Republicans voting to repeal the ACA. Do they think of these things while having drunken parties near Boehner's pool?

Here's a cut and paste worth noting. For another month the economy is still improving. Good news for those of us that want the United States to do well. Bad news, for those that want the United States to fail so they can try to justify hating Obama.

"The economy added 288,000 jobs in June, a better-than-expected number that helped push the unemployment rate down to 6.1 percent.

It's the lowest the unemployment rate had been since September 2008, the month Lehman Brothers went bankrupt, and the financial crisis that set off the recession began.

Stocks rose on the robust report, with the Dow Jones average topping 17,000 for the first time just after the markets opened.

The figures will have politicians wondering how the expanding economy might affect this year's midterm elections, where Republicans are now favored to take back the Senate, in part, due to dissatisfaction with President Obama, whose approval ratings are hovering just above 40 percent.

The strong number marks the fifth straight month of jobs growth above 200,000, bolstering hopes the economy has turned a corner."

Read more: http://thehill.com/policy/finance/211259-nation-adds-288k-jobs#ixzz36SQoKENe

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I have two issues with your cut and paste CoolBreeze.

1. It was a cut and paste not giving credit to the author(s) but made to look like your own words. -- That is plagiarism. Even ultra conservative right wing sites, with incorrect information should get credit for what they write.

2. It has a combination of true and false information, including some really big whoppers. See the comment from snopes on your lifted words. http://www.snopes.com/history/american/pricepaid.asp

I'd like to remind you of something else that you posted just a few weeks ago.

"I've had it with this circus called the Mountain Home News / Politics blog. Posts are being taken off that don't need to be. This is apparently Brenda's concept of free speech. Tired of the baloney some get away with on here while those that refute them get deleted. I'm done."

-- Posted by CoolBreeze83647 on Thu, Jun 12, 2014, at 3:03 PM

And yet you are back, and no, I don't think that we want to buy that bridge in New York that's for sale.

CoolBreeze is back with more plagiarised mis-information and when confronted with the problems with his post returns to name calling and a fascianation with the state of people's "undies".

The snopes article was good because it provided some good detail that the right wing viral e-mail didn't have.

In case you still haven't gotten it (sigh) calling someone Sammy whose name is Sam is name calling. We all know why you do it.

"I would like to wish all decent Americans a very happy and safe 4th of July."

-- Posted by CoolBreeze83647 on Thu, Jul 3, 2014, at 10:23 PM

Why thank you CoolBreeze83647. I hope that you are having a very happy and safe Independence Day as well.

Sam_1776,

Thanks for the Snopes link. It was very informative. I am watching the John Adams series on HBO now.

That's a great series, Pale Ale. I watched it when it first came out. I thought it was very well done. I wouldn't mind watching it again but, alas, we don't have HBO.

I hope all Americans have a great 4th of July, doing whatever they want to do to celebrate Independence Day.

Kevin Jackson an extreme Tea Party activist probably thinks that anybody to the left of him (90% of Americans) is left wing, and of course when Snopes refutes the lies put out in right wing viral e-mails and $14 dollar web sites, he would think that Snopes is wrong but not the Tea Party writers. Jackson also feels that to solve the racial problems in the United States we need a white Republican president. -- Yep, nothing wrong with this guy, right CoolBreeze?

For an excerpt of what he said see the following link.

http://newsone.com/2740126/kevin-jackson-tea-party/

Snopes has been fact check by the best: factcheck.org and came out very well.

"Of course, the reason Snopes.com is more often accused of bias by conservatives than by liberals is that facts have a notoriously liberal bias." -- Paul McNamara in the article below.

http://www.networkworld.com/article/2235277/data-center/fact-checking-the-fact-c...

When the Republicans asked "When you consider the left's blind faith in Obama, think of the people who followed David Koresh or Jim Jones."

Both of these cult leaders were far right wing conservatives crazies similar to the current batch of Tea Party separatists. And now you know the rest of the Republican ideology.

I did some research into this guy, Kevin Jackson, and he is C-R-A-Z-Y. He sometimes joins up with Sarah Palin so that they can talk crazy together.

Not such a great choice if you are looking for a credible opinion, Cool Breeze.

In case we haven't all figured it out yet; Republicans turn to rumor sites, innuendo sites, conspiracy sites, religious cult like figures and pundits that have trouble with facts and truths to form their view points much like Fox;

Liberals do the research and develop opinions based on facts and truths; at times we have to throw in satire stories and sites just to prove Republicans would argue with a rolled up bag of shotgun shells.

Cool Breeze, it is hilarious for you to post Kevin Jackson's web site to claim that he has credibility, where he brags about himself.

Bottom line, he is a fairly young guy that has been through several jobs and has a story on what he has done and accomplished on a Computer Science education.

Since you ask I am for honesty.

You, on the other hand, are using Jackson's quotations as something that we should pay attention to. He does not appear to have the qualifications to be listed to, except, of course, in his own mind, and in your desperation to find someone to refute Snopes which seems to be a losing battle.

Snopes has the credibility as the Go To source to refute Internet and viral e-mail lies.

Too bad, so sad, Cool Breeze. Keep trying though. Don't give up.

Finally a Republican does a little research into a subject he blatantly spread misinformation about just so he can say we blatantly lied. We realize the Republican will blame their admitted misinformation spreading on a cut and paste; we all understand and sympathize with those who do this; it's a Republican character flaw.

How many crazy religious nuts are actually liberal; how many of these crazy religious nuts are the Republicans courting, catering to, parroting their agenda and aligning themselves with; The answer is very simple to find. maybe we will shed light on this subject now the Republicans brought up the issue; let freedom ring

It's interesting that you try again to criticize Snopes, Cool Breeze, using a major racial hate site, founded by Don Black, formerly of the Ku Klux Klan.

The homepage of stormfront.org tells us what they are up to. It says, "We are the voice of the new, embattled White minority!"

Cool Breeze, your attempt to find a web site that is credible AND that will denigrate Snopes can only be considered a feeble effort. It does say a lot to all that read the MHN blog about what you like to read and therefore what you think.

Out of curiosity on whether CoolBreeze posts anything legitimate I decided to check out his cmdrmic.blogspot where he found what is claimed to be crimes by people on the left.

Cmdr Mic's "communicator" describes himself as "An alien visitor currently assigned to Earth; disguised as a man via a transmuter projector. (Trying to do something useful while I'm here - its not so easy...)".

The Republicans aren't trying to hide the fact they don't need or use facts and truths to back-up their misinformation. They know their base won't do the research and gladly slurp from that misinformation trough freely and willingly. Alien spacemen and KKK men indeed. let freedom ring

It sounds to me like Cool Breeze would like to be allowed, without us laughing at him, to introduce just any yahoo as the author of a quote as long as the author will make up any trash about what Cool Breeze wants to spread today.

Nobody was quoting Robert Byrd on a topic, but Cool Breeze thought it was pertinent to say that Byrd, a Democrat, was a member of the KKK. So????

People should "vet" their souces of quotes to make sure that they are credible. It looks like Cool Breeze was looking for the answer that he wanted but didn't take it a step further to see what these people's qualifications were to give an opinion.

I just realized that another weak link was by Cool Breeze to refute Sara's comments. The link posted below is a blog by some guy named Tom Francois. What I found out about him, is that the he claims that the Secret Service is investigating him because of what he was saying about Obama. Cool Breeze, this seems to be getting pretty bizarre!

"sara is blatantly lying when she stated Koresh and Jones were "far right wing conservatives crazies".

Koresh had no political affiliation. Jones, on the other hand, was a Democratic activist who actively campaigned in San Fransisco to get a Democrat elected Mayor.

http://tomfrancois.blogspot.com/2011/10/...

I suggest you kind-hearted liberals actually DO some research, instead of just bunching your undergarments....again."

-- Posted by CoolBreeze83647 on Sat, Jul 5, 2014, at 9:10 PM

The Republicans are right; the Democrats were quite active in the KKK at one time. Just a little reading and research shows that changed the 1960s. The Republican Party, mainly in the south, is so entwined even logos, platforms and agendas are similar to the kkk. Read, research and make your own informed decision. let freedom ring; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan

In case we haven't all figured it out yet; Republicans turn to rumor sites, innuendo sites, conspiracy sites, religious cult like figures and pundits that have trouble with facts and truths to form their view points much like Fox;

The religious right, a wing of the Republican Party is in the spotlight for the next week to show just how distorted their views have become; the Republican Party gobbles up their message just to regurgitate it to their base. sad.

Cindy Jacobs is minister and self proclaimed prophet highly respected by conservatives; recently she was recorded saying she "Has A Long Record Of Preventing Terrorist Attacks".

Is this the type of normal we want our elected officials listening to, much less courting for votes and support; let freedom ring

Judging from the comments and bogus links from this week-end Sara, I believe that there are some people who will believe anything and anybody that will trash Obama because they want this presidency to fail.

They have an intense hatred, as can be seen by Moral majorities multiple links. Judging from the links posted this week-end by someone else it appears to be racial in nature.

A few months ago the Republicans were hiding under their desk in manufactured fear over a Russian politician saying they might go nuclear on us. Now Republicans are shaking in their skirts about a report that China thinks they can beat us in war.

Just in time we have minister and prophet Cindy Jacobs bursting on the scene. We're sure the Republicans can ask Cindy to put China down. She has stopped countless terrorist attacks so China would be girls play for her or so she says; or maybe your god can help; doesn't appear there is much faith in god with the sheer terror Republicans are exhibiting on a daily mark; let freedom ring

Tony Perkins, president of the Republican sponsored and supported Family Research Council, said he fears Obama will start putting Christians in jail any day now.

What an absolute farce the Republican Party has become. Fear mongering has been perfected and the crazies now run the insane asylum over at the RNC and Fox News; let freedom ring

What an absolute farce that major corporations, whose stock is owned by Americans are allowed to relocate to other countries so that they don't have to pay U.S. taxes.

http://fortune.com/2014/07/07/taxes-offshore-dodge/

Here is just one of those hard hitting policy issues the Republicans developed and implemented recently but certainly perfected by Rick Perry;

*Do the White House folks really expect a Republican governor to clasp palms with Barack Obama*

Goes to follow, if a Republican governor refuses to shake hands with the President of the USA, that Republican governor isn't a leader but a small, petty person. This isn't acceptable behavior on a local, State, National or International stage; and the Republican don't understand this fleeting little fact? Let freedom ring

Moral majority, I believe that you may have hit a new low in inappropriate comments.

You are very lucky that you live in a free country and not the doom and gloom country that you wish was so. Your hatred of Obama apparently knows no bounds. Judging from your links and comments, lying and vulgarity is fine with you.

Very ironically you also probably think that you are a good Christian.

It looks like while I was composing my response to Moral majority's questionable remark, MHN deleted his remark. Brenda, I'm okay if you want to delete my remark that was full of umbrage over Moral majority's remark. :-)

Bryan Fischer, the Right Wing, Religious Right Republican has fired the mold, cast his conservative craziness in twisted clay and made his proclamation of *The lack of patriotism [for this country] is a sin against God*. The religious right hasn't the foggiest idea what patriotism entails do they.

But lordy, let freedom ring.

"The great 4th of July weekend is now over. So, too, is my interest in poking a stick at these dear, sweet children. Their desperation to be "right" and their petulant hatred for fellow Americans has reached a new peak (or is that a valley...?).

Carry on, Kool-Aiders. Until the next Obama scandal, stay as sweet and kind and intelligent as you have proven yourselves to be."

-- Posted by CoolBreeze83647 on Sun, Jul 6, 2014, at 6:16 PM

Has anybody noticed that after CoolBreeze gets called on some facts, and maybe gets a little embarrassed he bids a sarcastic sayonara to the blog and leaves?

I think that people might show you more respect CoolBreeze if you stopped the name calling (Kool Aiders) and posted reputable links. Commander Mik, your alien visitor, was a little far-fetched.

USA Wins = ObamaCare is successful

USA Wins = 50 straight months of job creation without any Republican support.

USA Wins = Syrian chem weapon stock being destroyed. No war despite Republican wishes.

USA Wins = US continues to move out of Afghanistan; despite Republican wishes

USA Wins = Economy is growing and robust despite Republicans dream of renewed recession

USA Wins = 18 States are forced to comply with the US Constitution and discrimination statues despite Republicans wish to remain in pre-1960's atmosphere.

USA Wins = EPA Clean Air Act has significantly improved air quality despite Republican wishes.

USA Wins = No war with Russia despite Republican wishes.

USA Wins = No war with Iran despite Republican wishes.

USA Wins = Christians not being put into jail despite Republican dire but false warnings

USA Wins = Obama didn't come to get your guns despite Republicans dire but false warnings

NRA Wins = No expanded background checks and 30+ school shooting in the US during the past 12 months.

NRA Wins = Ammosexuals running around stores and shops with AR-15's for no apparent reason other than for stupidity sake.

Let freedom ring

Good point; why aren't are local revolutionites, taxpayer gravy slurping Republicans down there with the other Clive Bundy-like, patrioticless American ammosexuals army to make sure the ones you hate don't get away. Maybe your god hates these people almost as much as you do; Astroturf Christianity in action and words.

Can we get a religious right Amen to hatin your neighbor. But lordy, let freedom ring.

Republicans don't want their governors to shake the hand of the President of the USA; but manufacture fake outrage with stompin feet when they believe the President treats allies badly; the religious rights take on Christianity is looking more like a cult; let freedom ring

Moral majority, I'd like to make a couple of points.

1. Liberals don't want the problem what is happening with the Central American children to be happening. Unless you are a liberal, you may want to stop saying what we all collectively think. We have varying opinions on multiple subjects.

2. If you keep using the Daily Caller for your links, you will forever, stay ignorant on what is really happening in the world. There are conservatives, and there are the truly insane conservatives. The latter are those that write for the Daily Caller.

Moral majority, I don't provide links from MSNBC. I do sometimes provide links from the Huffington Post. I'm just letting you know that your links can't really be taken seriously because they are known to come from the extreme right crazies who can't tell fact from fiction.

But I understand that you want to believe that you live in an evil world and your elected president is someone worthy of extreme hatred, so keep your head proverbially buried in sand as you post from the links that won't give you the truth but will tell you what you want to hear.

Moral majority:

1. Your witness worked there ending in 2012. He is out of date.

2. Bush is a liar about the wmd. He lied to trick us into starting a war against Iraq.

If you want rational people to believe your claims you are going to need to increase the quality of your sources of information.

I haven't seen "Democracy Now" yet. One of the things that worries me about trusting it as an accurate site is that it seems to be fairly new and then there is that Catch-22 that it's independence limits its funding, and the limitations on its funding limits it's resources for investigative journalism.

It looks like a glorified blog to me with the two people reporting on what other journalists have written. I could be wrong. Random stranger do you disagree?

We know it's impossible for Republicans to research violent crime rates in Central America. Maybe that is why they rely on anecdotal evidence from a friend employed by the US Government as their only source for these facts.

Liberals actually will type a statement into a search engine and do the research. We might even go to one of those socialist sponsored buildings with many books to do additional research; you know, a library. We then come to a conclusion about violent crimes rates in Central America.

We wonder what any god would think about a group of religious right Republicans in the USA. Considering they want close their eyes to a humanitarian crisis in their own back yard while throwing all their support behind a 1st world country and nuclear power; Israel. I'm sure their god is smiling up at the religious right.

Lordy, let freedom ring.

Love this site. When I'm feeling a little blah, I go to this site. Within seconds I start feeling a whole lot better realizing that even though not all is perfect, I at least have some sense of reality. I guess your just thankful for what you have and others might not.

The Republican Religious Right favorite Matthew Hagee said; *Obamacare Is Conditioning People To Accept The Mark Of The Beast*.

We understand how it feels to be amused by the constant conservative craziness. Only Republicans understand what it feels like to be in a state of constant fear of your god and country.

I see that CoolBreeze as a conservative who engages in name calling and insults, has good friends, a family, a decent job, and a good life, which is unlike what he thinks that more liberal oriented people have. Keep on dreaming CoolBreeze.

Do some research, learn how to tell a website that lies or tells the truth and come back to try to duel with the liberals again. Perhaps you can do better next time. Until then, let the truth reign.

I'm curious to see how the meeting in Texas goes. I'm also interested in Palin's claim that Boehner's law suit is like bringing a knife to a gun fight. Those conservatives are really having a hard time getting along. But I'll bet they have a great family, lots of friends, and a much better life than those liberals.

"Audi,

Are you that bored and desperate for some entertainment? Embarrassed? By who? You and your liberal cohorts that have reduced this blog site to the maturity and intelligence of a day care? Keep dreaming, son.

Unlike you, I have very good friends, family, a decent job, and a very full life, all of which take precedence over arguing with the emotionally challenged and ill-informed citizenry of Mountain Home and the surrounding area. I smile every time I see the hatred and vitriol emanating from the left because you folks show your true colors, but are too ignorant or narcissistic to realize others see what you write, too. While you do have some comedic value (very little), there's really no point in having anything to do with you, including having an insulting dialogue on a left-wing blogsite.

Embarrassed? Not in the least. Bored with liberals and their immature antics? Absolutely. Besides, I'll take great pleasure in treating you like a bad puppy and taking your chew toy away. You'll have to find another one, and from the looks of things, you're running out of people willing to engage the idiocy."

-- Posted by CoolBreeze83647 on Tue, Jul 8, 2014, at 10:47 PM

Republicans are even bad at quitting; if history on this webpage is any gauge and we think it is. These so called conservatives say they are leaving for good, never posting again, refuse to engage but they always come back; Oh, they justify their broken promises and breaking their "word" on silly stuff. What kind of god allows that type of behavior anyway; let freedom ring

Crime in Idaho is at a 10 year low? How could that be when Republicans say things like; this country lost it greatness; down the tubes; getting worse every day. Maybe the fear and drooling from the conservatives is just all in their mind; let freedom ring

The Republicans start a war about WMD. No one finds them in the 10 years we were in country. Then revolutionites take over Iraq. And now, according to Republicans, the revolutionites are finding them laying around in warehouses and college campuses. At least the conservatives are not letting this fear of everything paralyze them. Sorry to say however it also allows the Republican to manufacture more fear for their base. Boo. let freedom ring.

I find it ironic that conservatives who seem to hate Muslims in this county or at least mistrust them, take their word as gospel if it's about WMD's in Iraq. Of course it could be that I haven't taken into account Moral majority's antipathy for reading thoroughly his own links.

I think that link of Moral majority has been refuted already. How boring.

On a more interesting topic, it seems that some Republicans believe that Mars and Earth has the same temperature and since Mars has no coal mines, then coal mines do not add to global warming and so global warming is a hoax. -- Yes, you heard it here first!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/08/brandon-smith-mars-climate-change_n_556...

I'll try to record it. Is it on Monday thru Friday at 9:00 am?

Hmmm, this is an interesting developement.

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The testimony of nine military officers undermines contentions by Republican lawmakers that a "stand-down order" held back military assets that could have saved the U.S. ambassador and three other Americans killed at a diplomatic outpost and CIA annex in Benghazi, Libya.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/2014/07/10/3274775/apnewsbreak-no-stand-down-order...

Pale Ale, I wonder if this will get the same attention as the allegation of the "stand down" order? In a fair and reasonable world it would.

A 5 year old and her mother didn't have guns to protect themselves and look what happened; little girl dies; mother shot; responsible guy with gun needed to use his rifle to stand up; but he has his 2nd amd rights to fall back on. let freedom ring; http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/man-rifle-crutch-accidentally-kills-upstai...

I got this off of facebook. I have an opinion about this, but will keep it for now.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10204239050123217&set=vb.1436622897&type=2&...

That is one scary video MsMarylin and I think that policeman should get another job. He appears to be in uniform and on duty and needs to stay out of politics when he is on duty.

Did you notice those bozos were carrying a confederate flag?

Moral,

A wise old man once told me that it had been his experience that most of the book smart people that he had come across in his life actually had the least amount of common sense. This site is a perfect example. Try not to let them get to you. Book smart people, he said, are followers not leaders. Again this site is a perfect example.

I guess Abraham Lincoln, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Benjamin Franklin, and Alexander Hamilton must have been followers then dude?

Let me think about that. No, there is a major logical flaw in your thinking dude.

Moral majority, you would probably find that if you looked at your links and where they come from, you might realize why it's hard to take your claims seriously.

Is it really true; Republicans are going ahead with a lawsuit against the President of the USA; lawsuit is because Obama hasn't fully and completely implemented some parts of a law Republicans vehemently hate and have tried to repeal 40 times; let Republican logic and freedom ring

Book Worms,

All I'm saying is that you folks seem to have a hard time thinking for your self. If there is a flaw in my way of thinking, at least it's mine. If it's a flaw to lead rather than follow, then oh well. By the way, I'm sure the founders that you mentioned are not resting well right now.

Dude, so you think that you are a leader rather than a follower? You are a legend in your own mind, but hardly a leader.

What's scary about the video is the fact the police officer didn't even ask for Identification from each one of those gun toting men. The officer must of believed they were upstanding citizens from our Country. Who knows maybe there were warrants out on them, maybe they were coyotes protecting the border so more illegals can get in. That cop needs to stay out of politics and do the job he should of been doing.

Maybe a clue what was wrong with the last post?

The religious right wing of the Republican Party is leading the charge to take over the asylum; simple science thrown away and replaces with fairy tale stories to explain the earths age, climate and biology. The latest call to arms to dismantle science and even simple geography comes from a group the Republican Party wants and seemingly needs to nurture and court for votes is called American Family Association;

Cut and paste for your Sunday morn service;

*"In response to the influx of Central American children fleeing to the southern border of the U.S., the American Family Association's Bryan Fischer is repeating his belief that all national borders were determined by God and therefore anybody who crosses them without permission is directly offending the Creator."*

But lordy let freedom ring.

Dudewheresmycar,

It might have been because you addressed Sam_1776 as Sammy. But I could be wrong. However, I do believe that Brenda has been quite clear on this issue.

Response by Brenda Fincher, Publisher, MHNews:

....Regardless of my personal opinion I did ask there be no name calling when commenting directly to others. I address you as your name as you addressed me by mine. My name is not Brendy and a simple "y" can lead to oh so much more on here be it sarcastic or not so there is no grey. Do understand my decision. You give an inch and before you know it, its a very long mile!! Very simple black and white. Don't do it or it will be deleted regardless of content. That is the ONLY thing that has caused a delete since I asked the first time. Thanks.

Are the Republicans so out of touch with reality they cannot find the daily gaffes their candidates, pundits and personalities spout out in public.

Rick Perry admits he has *stepped in it* on a number of occasions in the last 3 weeks.

Cut and paste from this weekend *Right-wing legal activist Larry Klayman is not happy that the Republican National Committee selected Cleveland to host the party's 2016 nominating convention, writing this weekend in WorldNetDaily that Cleveland is a poor, fly-ridden city filled with "losers" and "liberal fat people."*

Dick Cheney and daughter cannot keep their stories straight from last weekend to this weekend.

Sara Palin has becomes a total laughing stock in the last 2 weeks and even some Republicans are speaking out against her I-craziness.

Every time a Republican utters any of the following words, they offend or "step in it; woman, rape, slavery, hitler commie, Muslim, illegal, abortion, contraceptive or gay.

The religious right has been particularly offensive to people in the last 6 months; but Lordy, Lordy, Lordy, let freedom ring.

This weekend former Deputy Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, Republican and Family Research Council leader Jerry Boykin wondered out loud and in public why Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl was not killed by the US government.

Imagine a former military leader wanting a US POW to be executed before a trial. Understandable considering there may not be any guidance covering these type of cases unless you look deep inside a historical document Republicans appear to have never read; except "da second".

Maybe this kind of Republican main stream ideology is the reason Democrats might lose the Senate. Crazy is what crazy does. The conservative asylum voting block is growing; Lordy, let freedom ring.

Moral majority, to whom are you addressing the claim that the government will be taking away "your government cheese"? I don't recall anyone commenting on this blog as saying that they get government cheese?

Do you try to add credence to your links and claims by trying to insult people. I suspect that same tactic, amongst the Tea Party people is and will be identified as low, polarizing, tactics the impact of which will be reflected in the 2014 elections.

Haven't you been getting money from the government for years through a safe and secure government job? I find that quite ironic.

On another topic, to those interested in discussing politics, it appears that Dick Cheney is still giving advice on the Middle East. Fortunately, like with Sarah Palin, his comments provide comic relief. In an article from "The Atlantic" this was said about his comments.

"As dismal a job as Cheney has done at keeping Americans safe in the past, it is my belief that following his advice in the future would be even more ruinous to our country. He adopts a confident tone when calling for military intervention in Iraq and Syria; an endless war in Afghanistan; sundry fighting elsewhere; and a hard line against Iran; but he doesn't know how these interventions would unfold any more than he "knew" Iraq had WMDs or that America would be treated as a liberator. Is posturing to the contrary a fraud he perpetrates on us or on himself too?"

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/07/the-farce-of-dick-chene...

Another funny, yet sad and expensive topic is Boehner's law suit. An article in slate provides good information on this saying that:

1. A court won't even hear the lawsuit because the House of Representatives lacks standing in the case. In other words they are an unaffected party regarding what they are suing about.

2. The Executive Department has the power to take Executive Actions and to decide which cases to take to court. Even if a court at the level that is needed for the lawsuit would still say that there is no case.

Just another political stunt at taxpayer expense, because Boehner knows that he can't Impeach the president. There are just enough sane Republicans in Congress that don't want to shoot themselves in the foot.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/view_from_chicago/2014/07/boehne...

Greatest and richest nation in the world and the Republicans want to take food *cheese* out the the mouth of hungry citizen; Republicans don't want all citizens to have health insurance; Republicans want to send refugees back to a country they know hugely bad things will happen to these poor folks; Republicans have no problems spending millions on conspiracy investigations;

Republicans say this is a christian country with christian morals and values yet they consistently throw the poorest and weakest under the bus. Wonder what their christian god thinks about this or is their god just a mean, ugly and unhappy deity; lordy, let freedom ring

Sara,

How dare you disrespect God in this manner. Your last statement is not funny ore clever at all. Please remember this is one Nation Under God. This statement has reached the lowest point to date. Is this behavior going to be allowed on this site?

Dude, you are mistaken ..... AGAIN!

The Pledge of Allegiance was written by a socialist minister, Francis Bellamy, in the late 1800's. It was a generic pledge which didn't say the "United States of America" and didn't say "One Nation Under God" or for that matter refer to God at all.

In the 1920's "the Flag of the United States of America" was added, replacing "my flag".

Then came McCarthyism, when liberty and justice was lost for many. President Eisenhower asked Congress to add "under God". This was in 1954.

This was the original wording.

"I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

This is the 1954 wording.

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

This country was founded based on the separation of Church and State. The Christian or Jewish God is not mentioned, however in the Declaration of Independence "creator" was used which, IMO, would apply I would think to Jews, Christians, Muslims, Hindu's, and atheists. Not all of the founders were Christians and some were "deists".

Sara didn't seem to be disrespecting the God of most Christians and Jews. She seemed to be disrespecting whoever the Tea Party is praying too that is apparently wanting some really unkind things to happen. Very un-Christ-like IMO.

Are Republicans just figuring out their behavior, actions and words don't match the teachings, writings and examples their god set forth? Appears so.

Let freedom - religious freedom ring.

Amusing the Republican Religious Right like to portray their god as vengeful and really quite evil; so vengeful according to David Barton the christian minister, Republican activist, and author said =

*God Will Strike America With Drought And Weather Disasters For Not Supporting Israel*

Why would any god be so vengeful and evil; the liberal god is understanding, nice and she would never rain terror down on the people for not support another country but let freedom ring.

Your post gets deleted for slightly altering a name on this site, but you can infer that one honors a different god, and it is all ok. This countries religious foundation is in jeopardy and you folks disrespect the fact. Who is mistaken? I was ok with controlling the name calling etc...,

but this is unacceptable.

A teaching from my Bible.

Isaiah 58:7

Is it not to share your food with the hungry and to provide the poor wanderer with shelter-- when you see the naked, to clothe them, and not to turn away from your own flesh and blood?

dudewheresmycar; it sounds like you are trying to tell us the god you worship is the only true god? please explain; or don't; maybe we've been saying it wrong all these years; *one nation under the christian god*? let freedom ring

Moral majority, along with your safe government paycheck isn't your insurance included so why are you so concerned about ObamaCare?

Do you know that Boehner wants to sue Obama because he didn't implement the insurance mandate, you know, the thing about the ACA that most people don't like?

I think the Republicans/Tea Party should make up their mind on what they want to be mad about.

Moral majority, as usual your right wing web sites are taking a part of a fact and massaging it to make it appear shocking.

The fact is that the HHS report said that as of February 2014 there were problems verifying certain things in the insurance market places. The insurance market places is the federal site and individual state sites, such as Idaho's, which the federal government has no control over.

You really should do a little research so that your posts are more honest, and therefore credible.

I'm posting the actual HHS report for those who want facts rather than falsehoods.

https://oig.hhs.gov/oei/reports/oei-01-14-00180.pdf

Moral majority,

"You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor." - Exodus 20:16

Seems like just yesterday someone was bragging the Republicans haven't made a "Todd Akin" public type gaffe. And much to this liberals surprise out slip a laugher.

*Bob Frey, Republican candidate for the Minnesota House of Representatives, wants public schools to teach students that humans and dinosaurs lived together.*

We realize this happens on a daily basis but Republican don't rely on facts for much do they. But lordy let the dinosaurs walk with the other extinct species; a common sense Republican

The Religious Right Republican crowd has a big problem developing don't they.

The Catholic Church leader, Pope Francis Insists Immigrant Children Should Be 'Welcomed and Protected' Also.

How will the conservative crowd parse that idea; Impeach a Pope or will it be denial it was said or the usual manufactured outrage; let freedom ring.

That reminds me of a Bill Maher video on a twitter conversation between Sarah Palin and Pope Francis.

Moral majority, Dude, and Cool Breeze: he is joking.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6vuA7SngYg

Put the children on planes, send half to the Vatican and half to Salt Lake. The Catholic and LDS Churches have a much greater net worth than the United States anyway, and might provide better care for them.

Republican Rep. Renee Ellmers, Congresswoman and chair of the Republican Women's Policy Committee said

*Men do tend to talk about things on a much higher level. We need our male colleagues to understand that if you can bring it down to a woman's level and what everything that she is balancing in her life -- that's the way to go.*

Speaking on behalf of all liberals and all women, we say don't talk down to us you fools; rather pick up your game; speak the truth and use the brain that is above your shoulders before opening that mouth.

Take heart ye old Republicans; your party hasn't made many public gaffes today but the day just started; let freedom ring

Finally the Republicans come out of the closet to tell the world why they don't want to help during the current humanitarian crisis in our own backyard; Money is the the reason. 400 billion dollars on a new airplane and zero to help their fellow wo-man. Their Republican god would be quite proud; let freedom ring

Yeah, It kind of comes down to shut-up or put-up.

This administration will certainly put-up tax payers money to buy the socialist vote.

Adam Kwasman, a Tea Party patriot running for Congress in Arizona had another conservative laugher; maybe laugher of the day; he snapped a photo of a passing school bus full of children. He posted the picture to Twitter with a stern warning to his followers: "Bus coming in. This is not compassion. This is the abrogation of the rule of law." Later described seeing "the fear" in the children's faces, urging authorities to abide by the law and enforce the border against the influx of child immigrants crossing into the United States.

Only problem with Kwasman's story; The school bus was carrying local children on the way to a YMCA camp. Let Republicans continue to manufacture fake fear while letting freedom ring.

Why would a Republican think the Obama administration would need to buy the socialist vote? Or was all that noise about Obama being a socialist just scare tactics and fear mongering; we don't need an answer to our question; the answer is clear to all of us now isn't it? let freedom ring.

I see in the right wing "news" (guffaw) that they are now attacking Pope Francis. According to Bill Maher's monologue they think that he is too liberal. As Bill says "If they think that the pope is too liberal, wait until they hear what Jesus has been saying." -- Not Maher's exact words but pretty close.

Appears Republicans have made up a brand new definition for the term "humanitarian crisis". But they never did let a dictionary or encyclopedia get in the way of their misinformation train.

We're so happy at least one Republican claims to be employed and providing for the family. How did you do it between avoiding those FEMA Camps, communist hiding behind your back door and the bogeyman around each corner. Probably had your gun out shooting at anything that moved or didn't.

The whole liberal crowd is completely grateful to President Obama for taking away all your guns, buying all the ammo and prying things from your cold hands. We're sure all these events happened as the Republicans said it was imminent and that was over a year ago. Or maybe no one said anything about making guns illegal except the Republicans. Why do they spread so much fake fear and misinformation. Only their god knows.

Will the Religious Right Republicans start calling the pope a RINO; Religious in Name Only.

Catholics recognize the pope as a successor to Saint Peter and not Ted Cruz as the Republican would like us to believe; let freedom ring

Republican candidate for governor of Wyoming wants to open up Yellowstone National Park to drilling. Can't make up stories like these. It takes a real Republican to highlight craziness in thoughts, words and behavior; let freedom ring.

http://trib.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/if-elected-haynes-woul...

"Patriot: the person who can holler the loudest without knowing what he is hollering about." -- Mark Twain

Is that your definition of a patriot Moral majority?

Sara it looks to me like gainfully employed is thinking about quitting his job.

He says:

"Can anyone tell me how much free stuff I can get if I quit my job and decide to retire on the government? Would I have to become a liberal? Give me enough free stuff and my vote might be for sale too." -- Posted by gainfullyemployed on Wed, Jul 16, 2014, at 12:29 PM

He apparently has believed the falsehoods supplied by the Tea Party Republicans and now is opting for a lazy way out. He doesn't realize that most people really don't want to be poor. That's why the Democrats are trying to get the minimum wage raised, so that hard working people can get off welfare.

What really amazes me is the obvious sense of exceptional-ism that he feels in having a job. I suspect that all of the people commenting on this page are employed but aren't bragging about it. Even Moral majority, with his safe government job where he got paid during the government furlough claims to be working hard. -- So what makes gainfully employed feel that he is so exceptional? I'm just not seeing it.

Those Republican Patriots are at it again; they want to put the US Military back in a war half way across the world; these so called US Patriots don't want to do the fighting; these so called US Patriots don't know why they want to wage war again and again other than army movies are cool; these so called US Patriots have been trying to convince others they will start a shooting type revolution in this country but still haven't identified their enemy; these so called US Patriots don't realize half the country is laughing at them and most of the rest roll their eyes when they hear talk of Revolution; let freedom ring

Oh Sara, Sara, you need so much help. By the way just asking... Can a Republican be a Catholic? Hmmm, or can a Catholic be a Republican?

Definition of PATRIOT: one who loves his or her country and supports its authority and interests.

Republicans have never met a dictionary they could read. For example Republicans think you have to have been an army man to be a Patriot. And as they have said a number of times; they cannot explain things in a way non-Republicans would understand. The Religious Right calls that talking in tongues; right.

It amusing that some of these so called US Patriots don't support or even recognize the authority granted to the President by the constitution.

Is the Republicans new definition of Patriot; making stuff up, hoping for war and spreading fear in a total package of misinformation on the hopes of living a continued miserable life of ugliness and ignorance.

Let freedom ring.

The powers and duties of the president are outlined in Article ?? of the Constitution; let freedom ring

I see that a couple of our extreme right friends have opted for misinformation as a response. That is the easy, lazy way out.

Let me correct some of the lame claims.

gainfully employed lame claims

1. I am not amazed that a person can make a living without government support. I do that as do most people that I know and most people commenting do. You seem to think that you stand out in that regard. That is simply not true.

2. The minimum wage comment in regards to me is something that you wish could only be true, but alas, it is another lie. My salary is more than adequate. Yes, I do think that raising the minimum wage does reduce welfare. Look at states that have tried it. Give up your narrow right wing reading and try to increase your knowledge. As for "simple economics", I doubt if you have any knowledge on that topic.

3. I don't want money given to me, another lie on your part. I do think that Jesus taught us to help others, or is He just too liberal for you?

4. Corporate America is not holding me down. I work for a major international corporation.

Moral majority lame claims

1. I do know what a Patriot is, but you don't seem to know it and I think that the Mark Twain definition probably fits what you think.

2. I am a veteran, something that you would know if you had been paying any attention.

3. I don't believe that only veterans can provide definitions of what a Patriot is. Guess what, this is a free country and you don't make the rules. You are just moaning and groaning about how everything is really bumming you out. Wah!

Sara, please note that in the article you reference, this candidate is not only speaking of drilling, and not only in the park.

The truth is, Wyoming is a huge energy resource, and with some mines, such as those operated by Powder River Coal in Gillette, the coal produced from them is a naturally low ash, low sulfur coal that meets current EPA standards naturally. And the city of Gillette is doing well, with low unemployment and a per capita income well above the national average.

When some energy potential estimates indicate the Wyoming alone could power the US for a very long time, and when in some cases the financial benefits can be balanced with the environmental needs, why wouldn't it be worth exploring?

gainfully employed, so now you are guessing again that Sara is not gainfully employed when in fact she operates her own business?

You are also guessing that every conservative is employed. I'm not sure that your conversation is up to the level that I want to respond to. You do way too much guessing and worse yet you think your guesses have validity.

Try to smarten up a little bit and try again. For the most part I'd say that you need to improve your reading material.

I was reading some of the comments about the different gods of the people commenting on this page and it occurred to me that the differentiation, based on the biblical sources posted, was that the liberals are quoting from the New Testament and the conservatives are quoting from the Old Testament.

It would seem that in that case the liberals that have commented have a bent more towards Christianity and the conservative are more focused on the vengeful, jealous god of the Old Testament. Does this make conservatives Jewish? No, not necessarily because they frequently say that they believe in Jesus.

But it does put them in a more negative light on morality. In "The Atlantic" an article on morality said this.

"Often, the Christian defense of what they believe is their religious liberty is framed as fundamental hatefulness, homophobia, and misogyny, rather than disagreement grounded in morality. Much to the shame of the faith, a few who claim to be Christian really are motivated by hate. Those who disagree with them see little point in engaging with them on these issues, which is understandable, but it's unfair and counterproductive to extend that attitude to all evangelical Christians. If the evangelical worldview is deemed invalid in the public sphere, then the public sphere loses the value of being public. American discourse will be marked by paranoid conformity, rather than principled and earnest disagreement. And our ability to prophetically speak to one another and to our nation's troubles will be restrained."

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/07/is-evangelical-morality-stil...

Maybe the answer is not to claim that one side is more moral than others but that there are different sides to what is moral. Otherwise you have increasing polarization.

BTW gainfully employed, the powers of the President of the United States, including the use of Executive Orders is described in this link from Cornell University.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/executive_power

I suspect that Sam and Sara may be tiring of you gainfully employed. I could be wrong.

The link that I provided to you is to educate you on the powers of the president. It seems to me that a lot of people, including yourself, don't really understand these powers, particularly those people that are yelling the loudest that they are Patriots and others are not.

Gainfully employed seems to think people owe him answers. It looks like dude's game playing to me.

Has anyone seen the news about the downed plane?

gainfullyemployed; it is our stated goal not to even try to educate a Republicans; an impossible task. And with your long history on this webpage, you know the liberal keyword we've used so many times;

*Do your own research and make up your own mind*.

DANSHL; have you ever been to Yellowstone Park and do you understand why the national park system exists?

A $10.10 minimum wage would mean a direct raise for 16.7 million workers, according to the Economic Policy Institute, who would then have more money in their pockets to spend on goods and services, boosting the economy. It also found that a gradual increase to $10.10 by 2016 would increase wages by $35 billion, which would boost GDP growth by about $22 billion.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/02/18/3303201/cbo-minimum-wage/

Sara, I have been to Yellowstone many, many times, and of course I understand why the National Park System exists. But again, this link you provided not only addresses the possibility of drilling in the park but other areas of the state as well. It references not just drilling, but mining as well. I, specifically, was speaking of the coal mine in Gillette, and suggesting the possibility that if this mine can produce coal that naturally meets the standards of the clean air act, why wouldn't it be worth exploring more areas of the state?

My biggest take on the article you linked to, however, is that the candidate seems to advocate the transfer of federal lands back to the states they call home. He believes that by doing this, the state could first kick start permits that have been stalled, and then explore the park/monument areas.

Again, Wyoming is mineral rich, and as a country, we all know we need more energy independence. I reiterate that some of what he said might be worth looking into.

gainfully employed, you should make sure that you figure out whether you truly are employed or have your own donut business. You should probably stay an employee because I see no hope for you as a businessman.

On your donut business.

1. You should fire some of your employees since they only made 12 dozen donuts between them in 8 hours. What were they doing, grinding their own flour and getting eggs from a chicken coop?

2. Your cost for your ingredients is very high. The average cost of the ingredients for making a dozen donuts is $1.44. So 12 dozen donuts should cost $17.28 cents. You should fire yourself for mismanaging the donut shop.

3. Your logical skills assumes that businesses price on percentages of profit. In a free market prices are determined by what the buyer will pay for. You should be sure not to re-hire you because there is probably no hope for improvement.

You just want to have an endless, illogical argument to waste people's time.

Audi, you've made some interesting points about the different Gods that people are quoting where it's almost like they are different beings.

I think that what happened is that the Old Testament was made for the times that the story tellers were living in. Much harsher times and as a result harsher people.

Then the liberal/progressive Jesus arrived and preached a kinder way to go and talked about a kinder God.

Of course some of the harsher people loved their harsh laws, and hated their neighbors particularly if they weren't like them. They didn't want to love their neighbors. They were very conservative about change so they didn't change and improve.

Luckily the kinder, more progressive people were able to progress through new ideas and inventions and society flourished and the harsher, conservative people were able to survive, resulting in a polarized society of the unchanging conservatives and the liberals with new ideas.

That must have been what happened.

That seems as sensible as Moral majority's rendering of Bible history.

I agree that gainfully employed should always have an employer who can make the business decisions if he really works in a business or tell him what the rules are if he is a government worker. He doesn't understand that his pricing needs to be competitive and there are multiple ways to handle a pay raise rather than just raising prices. You have to be innovative to successfully run a good business. His simplicity is astounding.

Looks like the Republicans are in an infrastructure building mood. They don't want to fix bridges or roads however;

*Republican super-pundit Bill O'Reilly, proposed building something like the Berlin Wall on the U.S.-Mexico border.*

Wasn't it some liberal that said "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!". Or maybe it wasn't a liberal who said that; let freedom ring.

Hooray for House Republicans; they finally did something; *Rep. Pat Meehan's (R-Pa.) amendment to the fiscal 2015 Financial Services and General Government appropriations bill* to stop the refurbishing of the White House bowling alley passed on a voice vote; Good job Boys but as these Republicans already knew, President Obama canceled that project a week earlier; how is that Republican smoke, mirrors and misinformation program working out for you; way to make a difference and let freedom ring.

The Democrats are asking the Republicans just how much Boehner's lawsuit is going to cost the United States. They are tired of the waste based on political games.

Ironically part of the lawsuit is complaining about not implementing the employer mandate. The Republicans and lots of American's don't like that feature of the ACA but the Republicans hate everything Obama does and then when he doesn't do what they say they hate, they hate that more.

"The American people have endured enough waste from this House majority, and we are demanding an estimate so that members of Congress and the American public will know the true cost of the House's petty partisan lawsuit against the president," Slaughter said.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/07/gop-lawsuit-obama-cost-democrats-109059.ht...

Why should we care if workers can buy stuff. The Republicans of this Tea Party age don't; let freedom ring.

http://corporate.ford.com/news-center/press-releases-detail/677-5-dollar-a-day

Sara that was a great pertinent article from one of our long standing major American corporations.

Henry Ford was very progressive in his thinking on some things and very conservative on other things. His major increase to the daily wage's had the intention of giving him a stable workforce, people that could be trained and then would keep working for him. It gave him that and was the start of America's strong middle class.

We need more thinking like that these days.

It's interesting to note that some cities are following Seattle's lead with their own minimum wage since Congress isn't doing much about anything important.

http://www.thenation.com/article/180675/if-congress-wont-raise-minimum-wage-thes...

Ford did have a good idea. In our timeframe the benefits of having a higher minimum wage are many.

The obvious is the reduction of the tax burden on others as workers can get off welfare and pay taxes.

I read an interesting article in "The Atlantic". It suggested that the monuments, memorials, etc. in the United States point to the good things or the things that we are proud of, and if they are negative such as the Jewish holocaust, well that was Germany's bad so we can have a monument for that.

We don't have monuments for the years of slavery, the torture of prisoners at Gizmo, etc. It suggested, and I think that would be a good idea that the country seems to want to look at history through rose colored glasses and not be realistic about the past. I think this is part of the Tea Party and very conservative Republicans and their claims that only they are "patriots" and the founding fathers never made any mistakes.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/07/the-case-for-subversive-monu...

Gainfully employed my comments were directed towards those with a more sophisticated view of the issue. You seem to be way over your head on this topic.

This statement from a Republican explains so much about their thought process, ideology and grasp on reality;

*I've seen more indepth thoughts come from a turnip.*

Let turnips think and freedom ring.

Well put Geordey! On your comment on the minimum wage you may find this interesting.

1, Most small business favor a higher minimum wage and some large corporations do favor a high minimum wage.

2. The tremendous gap between what the minimum wage and the heads of the corporations is growing.

This first is a good sign for a healthy middle class and the second is a bad sign.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/07/epi-study-restaurant-ceo-minimum-wag...

Just as a side note, when the corporation that I worked for suffered difficult economic times in 2008 and for a couple of years after, managers above a certain level stopped receiving pay raises and bonuses. This was to reduce layoffs and although my income was affected I didn't mind.

Moral majority, what you are putting out is a "joke" about the president behaving like a jerk to a child which he wouldn't do but worse yet a joke about assassinating him.

That is inappropriate and irresponsible!

I see that Moral majority and gainfully employed have now resorted to kindergarten behavior as a way to deflect from the fact that they have no credible points.

That's unfortunate for them and how they are bound to be viewed by others.

This article was interesting to me because it talks about the type of thinking to be a "coder" and not all people can do this. Early in my career, I was a coder and loved it.

The article says that we are teaching our children to be users of code but not coders, and urges the educational system to spend some time letting people explore that particular kind of creativity and logic. It says that if we don't then our future as a society is limited.

In Idaho the education system up through secondary school seems to just teach our children to pass the test and does not explore other things, like coding, architecture, and engineering.

Our schools need to do more and we need to put money into them in a smart way to improve them.

http://www.motherjones.com/media/2014/06/computer-science-programming-code-diver...

Our Tea Party Letter to the Editor author is at it again; he wants to know how and why the weakling Obama got elected; then in what can only be described (by a republican) as exquisitely ironic, he drools and dribbles on about just how incredible sneaky, powerful and terrifyingly tyrannical Obama has become.

Even thought Mr Bradbury wants us to use our real name (he's an admitted gun carrying revolutionite and other have wink winked, told us to remain anonymous or else), we'll answer his question; because most sane, rational and normal people don't see the bogeyman hiding under their bed every night; we get sleep and our brains work normally; we recognize leadership where the Tea Party oozes fear from every pore of their body; we recognize the world isn't perfect and aim to make it better where the Bradbury's of this world shake in manufactured outrage; Most people don't count the rounds of golfball others play while fearfully pointing at a humanitarian crisis on our border as a future vote getting scandal; let freedom ring.

The Republicans are bitter, fearful and angry that children are fleeing Central America's violence and starvation and coming to the USA. In a huge turn of logic, they are now more fearful, much more bitter and more drooling angry to find out family units are doing the same thing.

Lordy, lordy, lordy manufactured outrage overload. They'll have to use it on their turnip fields. Pretty soon the turnips will be the only thing within earshot of the Republican Party; let freedom ring

Apparently, in Congress some Republicans were shocked and amazed that a rule used by multiple presidents including Ronald Reagan is not going to allow them to get Lois Lerner charged with contempt like they want for asserting her Fifth Amendment right. An excerpt from the goings on came from Huffington.

"At Thursday's hearing, several Republicans demanded that Deputy Attorney General James Cole explain why prosecutors had not already moved forward.

"This Congress held Lois Lerner in contempt, geez, almost nine weeks ago," Rep. Ron DeSantis (R-Fla.) said, citing the procedure that's spelled out in law that says the prosecutor's duty "shall be to bring the matter before the grand jury."

But Cole noted that the prosecutor still gets to decide.

"My understanding of the law is that it does not strip the U.S. attorney of the normal discretion that the U.S. attorney has," Cole said. "He proceeds with the case if he believes it is appropriate to do so."

His answer infuriated Republicans, especially Issa, who demanded proof.

"If you think that's discretionary, would you please give that back to us in a legal opinion so that we can change the law to make it clear you're wrong," Issa said."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/19/darrell-issa-contempt_n_5600789.html

Once again the tax payers are having to pay for buffoonery from the Republican party.

Moral majority, did you know that the writer of your latest link is Neil Munro, an Irish immigrant, now citizen, that was constantly interrupting and arguing with the president during a press conference? Can't you find a writer that isn't part of the right wing lunatic fringe?

For details of his lack of respect to the president and real reporters, check out the link below. He seems to have a personal bias going on.

http://www.thewire.com/politics/2012/06/who-neil-munro-and-why-he-interrupting-p...

It sounds like John Hawkins hates liberals, but really, doesn't Hawkins and the Tea Party just hate America?

Take the topic of immigration. What ever happened to "give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breath free." Judging from the reaction of the Tea Party and other right-fringe Republicans, that doesn't apply if your coming from South of the Border.

The preamble to the Constitution sets as a goal of the county to "promote the general welfare". The extreme right wants none of that. They don't want to help others. One commenter on the Political Forum LOVES to discuss the 1st day of the month and jeer about welfare recipients at Wal-Mart.

The 1st Amendment to the Constitution says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." Yet the Tea Party hates and wants to discriminate against every religion except the Christian religion. They are trying to re-write history to say that the United States was founded on the Christian religion. Sane and educated people don't believe that BIG lie.

America was founded on Democracy. The ultra-right doesn't seem to be interested in practicing that in Congress. In the Senate you can't vote on a bill in most cases unless you have a "super majority", not a majority. John Boehner doesn't let things come to a vote in the House of Representatives unless the Tea Party likes it.

It's time that some of the conservatives commenting on the political forum finally face the sad truth. They hate the country and what it really stands for. If they hate the country so much, maybe they should move to a country that is more suited to them?

The facts are in and the Republicans should be embarrassed; but will they be; All that screaming, whining and protesting that liberals are ruining this nation by taking government handouts should be accomplished in their own Tea Party bathroom mirror it turns out.

*According to a TIME analysis of county-by-county food stamp enrollment data, GOP politicians represent more districts that majorly participate in SNAP than Democrats.*

Must be very vexing to be a Republican in the age of enlightenment and knowledge. These conservatives can only spread their misinformation so thin before facts and figures get their way.

let freedom ring; http://swampland.time.com/2013/12/04/interactive-republicans-more-likely-to-have...

I wonder What Mr Bradbury would of done when a Bar's window was shot up in our town last night if had he been in the area? The bar was still open for business and customers had to duck the bullet or bullets.

I'm glad that Mr. Bradbury was not there.

I'm amazed that Cool Breeze has the nerve to post yet another John Hawkins list, after the guy was thoroughly discredited this week-end.

Cool Breeze, if the president deserves to be impeached, why the delay? Could it be that except for the lunatic right wing fringe, other Republicans are tired of being "the stupid party"?

Republicans insist they know of 5 High Crimes And Misdemeanors impeachable offenses and they even list them on every webpage they can access.

Where are the Articles of Impeachment. Republicans have a sworn duty to uphold the law; or are they just spreading their fear and misinformation in place of real action and leadership; let freedom ring.

I've read Audi's comments on other subjects. I'm pretty sure, Cool Breeze, that he knows a lot more about how the government works than someone, such as yourself, who just reads right wing web sites for his education. Worthy of note, he does give credit to his sources of information and doesn't post the words of others as if they were his own.

Go ahead and continue to post asinine lists, with their weak, biased, and inaccurate points. Your prize for doing so, is that you will be laughed at, criticized for the errors of your logic, and maybe pitied a little by the kinder commenters on the Political forum.

*New Labor Department data shows that the 13 states that raised the minimum wage this year are adding jobs at a faster pace than those that did not*; let freedom ring

I have to chuckle about your attempt to actually quote from a real news agency, while only quoting part of the information otherwise known as a "half truth", Cool Breeze.

"A half truth is a whole lie." ~Yiddish Proverb

In your very link there is more to said from Jonathan Turley.

"Democrats on Capitol Hill question why most Republicans remained silent when President George W. Bush made expansive claims of executive power and are only now outraged at Mr. Obama.

Some Obama administration officials have hinted that the president's race may play a role.

Mr. Turley said he doesn't believe Mr. Obama has tyrannical impulses or that he's intentionally trying to subvert the founders' vision of separation of powers.

He said blame should be spread across all three branches of government: a White House eager to ignore rules in order to get things done, a Congress too weak and riven with partisan divisions to assert itself against presidents of either party and judges who are unwilling to play the role of referees the founders envisioned.

Mr. Turley said he expects the lower courts to duck the fight, ruling Congress doesn't have standing to sue since lawmakers aren't suffering an actual injury as the court sees it."

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/15/obama-executive-actions-seen-as-...

Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

Republicans say they are the Party of Law; when Democrats insist Congress look into immigration law, Republicans somehow manufacture intense outrage; outrage Democrats have fake concern for the poor children;

The Republican Party = the Party of hate, manufactured outrage, government hand-out lovers and misinformation specialists; the Republicans might manufacture some concern for their fellow man one day but we're sure their old testament god will strike them down for it; Let freedom ring

Moral majority, I'd like to congratulate you on using a real news agency. The debate is complicated on this, and I am also torn on what is the "right" thing to do.

I agree with you that some motivations are about votes, but I think that is an over simplification.

A lot of people really are worried about the children, however there is a difference between a 14 to 17 year old and an 8 year old. In my opinion, and with a lot of sadness, I think that a 14 to 17 year old, in this case, maybe should be treated like an adult and sent back to his or her country.

People are starving, dying, getting sexually assaulted and going without proper medical care. In the richest and greatest nation this universe has ever seen, the Republicans are fearful, scared and crying these unfortunate souls might get Social Security, Medicare or gasp, ObamaCare.

And their god said; who cares about those poor folks; and their flock said let them starve; and their bible was rewitten and is now called the Republican National Committee Platform available at all your favorite shopping outlets.

It's clear that the conservatives have shifted a bit to the left over time, and the liberals have shifted beyond left to socialism. It seems the way we are heading. Financially, for my children, the smart thing to do will most likely get a position working for the government in some capacity. I would now be to difficult to take the road I took. Taxes are only going to keep increasing, while goods and services will be more difficult to sell. To many getting too much for free. These folks have no disposable income other than what is provided by assistance, making small business very very difficult. People getting by for free and the small business paying for it while trying to sell goods and services to a minority group of working people. At this rate, this country will financially fail. We were once the greatest and richest country in the world. We are no longer. One more term in office resembling this and the last one, and China may just leave this country hanging. Or buy it. It's yet to be seen.

My apologies, Brenda. I re-did the offending comment mistaking something else that I had written in the comment for what you had a problem with. I'll try this one last time without the offending word.

The author of Cool Breeze's latest two lists, John Hawkins is, according to Rational Wiki, a "... crazy wingnut who runs the website Right Wing News and regularly contributes articles to the far-right side of the clogosphere. He likes to make lists of "facts" that cater to his fringy audience, who in turn adore him for being politically incorrect."

IMO those who post one of his many lists are not trying to post facts, just inane, inaccurate lists.

I'm so sorry Cool Breeze, but John Hawkins cannot be truly taken seriously. He is part of the lunatic right wing fringe, who just loves to posts lists of negative things about Obama, liberals, and so on. I agree with Audi, that he may just hate the United States of America.

His blind, and ignorant followers, like to post them again. What particularly annoys me about you, is that you post them without giving him credit for his own words.

Why would someone do that? Do you think that you will sound more intelligent if you post his lists as if they were your own words?

The more things change for the better in the progressive world the more the Republicans want to revert back to the old, nasty fear mongering ways of the past.

According to historians the political climate of the day in the 50's was *characterized by heightened political repression against liberals, as well as a fear campaign spreading intense paranoia of their influence on American institutions by communist agents.*

The only difference between those times and the current actions of the Republican Party is they have added the End of the World, Apocalypse, swirling down the drain message to make it sound even scarier; brighten up Boys, there's always your fantasy Revolution to dream about; let freedom ring.

In North Carolina, the Republicans are fighting amongst themselves over a budget which is improving the chances of the Democrat in their Senate race.

Like how they act in Congress and in Idaho, they just can't seem to focus on their end game, preferring to bicker over everything rather than win.

North Carolina is one of the key states that the Republicans had hoped to go Republican on the Senate race to give them a better chance of getting a Republican majority in the Senate. But I'm happy to say they seem to be blowing their chance.

We understand the Religious Right Republican's god said. *I came not to bring peace, but to bring a sword*.

Also explains the wild celebration these same Republicans are having as 5 million US Citizen lose health insurance.

Pick up the sequel to their god's bible called;

*100 ways to kick your neighbor when she just got on her feet and do it with a smile on your face*

Another half truth Cool Breeze?

From your own link, look what you left out. Was this an attempt to mislead?

"The Obama Administration is certain to seek a reversal of the decision by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, which does not immediately have the effect of law."

The claim that the ACA took a hit because of a Washington D.C. Circuit Court decision seems a little silly since ANOTHER Washington D.C. Circuit Court decided in the OPPOSITE direction on the SAME decision.

It's probably going to go to the Supreme Court to be decided in favor of not doing damage to the ACA, which is the law of the land now so maybe Cool Breeze should just accept the fact that nobody is going to wipe out what he thinks is the big bad law. It may be improved but not wiped out.

You know I am wrong. It is not a little silly, it is just plain HILARIOUS!

Back to the Tea Party and other extreme conservatives who seem to hate the principles that America was founded on and stands for, "The Atlantic" had a great article on what they called the "original tea partiers".

That was "Fighting Bob" La Follette. This is an excerpt from the article.

"A hundred years before the Tea Parties, Senator Bob La Follette of Wisconsin was the original Republican insurgent. In the early 1900s, he led a grassroots revolt against the GOP establishment and pioneered the ferocious tactics that the Tea Parties use today--long-shot primary challenges, sensational filibusters, uncompromising ideology, and populist rhetoric. But there was a crucial difference between La Follette and today's right-wing insurgents: "Fighting Bob" was a founding father of the progressive movement."

Although a progressive, like the current Tea Party, he did severe damage to the Republican party. Is there a lesson to be learned from this? I think so.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/07/the-original-tea-partiers-ho...

Moral majority, I hate to say it, but your daily caller link disagrees with the link supplied by Cool Breeze.

Sam quoted from Cool Breezes link regarding information that Cool Breeze conveniently left out. See the part at the end where it says the ruling "does not immediately have the effect of law." In that case why would an injunction be even discussed?

"The Obama Administration is certain to seek a reversal of the decision by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, which does not immediately have the effect of law."

Sam_1776,

Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Buckshot61, Hope4America, Free Thinker and others also like to post extreme right wing lists of things.

I heard that they went berserk, each in their own time, and got kicked off.

Pale Ale, I couldn't have said that better myself.

I have never seen a post from Sara where she makes fun of God, either the Christian God or the Old Testament God. See seems to think that God has moral values and goodness. I agree with her on that.

What she is making fun of is whoever is worshiping what they are calling "God" but who doesn't seem to agree with the moral values and goodness taught by Jesus. You know, whatever is encouraging people to let children starve, prevent children from getting medical treatment when they are sick, and so forth all in the name of holding on to their money. These people's gods seems to put a very high premium on money and hanging on to it.

"Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me." - Matthew 19:21

I take it that your gainfully employed job doesn't require much reading. That wasn't what Sam appeared to be saying. I also suspect that the F word that you used is not allowed on this forum.

The Republicans are an amusing sort of people; They believe Obama is a Nigerian or foreigner of some kind despite the clear evidence; they insists he is a constant liar; and yet they believe Hamas terrorists when they say God is changing the direction of their rockets in mid-air; they believe after 10 years in Iraq, US Forces couldn't find WMD's and the ISIS finds them in one week. Republicans are either quite gullible or their god condones lying, stretching the truth and spreading misinformation; or both.

This latest Republican Hamas*rocket story they eat up with as much gusto as the government gravy they slurp up has convinced us; we have to take a break; let freedom ring.

See you revolutionites in about 30 days.

A list of seven items from Cool Breeze on why he and whoever's words that he is usurping hates liberals and probably hates what America stands for.

Could it be that Cool Breeze has no facts to produce or news items of the terrible crimes of his hated president, Obama?

All must be good in liberaldom then if this is all That Cool Breeze has to offer.

Is Cool Breeze going berserk because he is reading and posting liberal hate lists or is he posting liberal hate lists because he has already gone berserk. ... Try to keep a grip on reality Cool Breeze. The voices really aren't talking to you.

Ted Cruz an extreme right wing Tea Party proponent, is now urging the House Republicans to stay extreme and therefore unable to accomplish anything, in regards to the refuge crisis.

It seems like a good quote from Bill Maher on Ted Cruz is now in order to remind us of Cruz's type of activities.

"Ted Cruz, his notion is always, 'What is the stupidest thing that the stupidest Republican voter out there is thinking, and how can I channel exactly that?' He never misses a beat. I said this once, on this show. He never misses. He must have meetings with his staff and say 'I think this is stupid. But help me out. Is it really stupid?'"

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1zza7p_cruz-s-stupidity-skewered-future-of-gop...

Not sure what you are talking about Moral majority.

Sam, I agree that Cruz is a pretty stupid and crazy Republican, and I wish that I had a way with words like Maher does.

I saw an interesting article about Republicans hating America as much as they do Obama. It said:

"If Americans took stock of the various Republican assaults in the states and Congress, they would discover that except for the rich, Republicans hate all Americans equally and assault their base with the same viciousness as they do their opposition."

The article noted the various assaults on Americans by the Republicans for example the war on women. For more details, check out this link.

http://www.politicususa.com/2013/11/04/republicans-grown-hate-america-hate-presi...

Regarding the Republican assaults on various groups, including their own power base I've tried to understand where the Republican hate comes from.

Starting with the war on women, I have to ask why do they hate women? In the book "Backlash: The Undeclared War Against American Women" the author discusses this.

She says a "backlash" is the cause and that backlashes have occurred throughout American History when it appears that a group is making progress in gaining equality, and the fear that arises from that.

We have had a woman get close on that, Hilary Clinton may run and win for president, and the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act was enacted in 2009, both indicators of progress on woman's equality. This, she believes, has scared some people.

The author believes that this fear causes the Republican assaults, just the same as Obama's election as the first black president an indication that racial equality had made progress.

Interesting points Audi on the Republican assaults on women and the book. I looked up the book and was pleased to see that the author, Susan Faludi, is a Pulitzer prize winner and that that book received the National Book Critics Circle Award for non-fiction.

CoolBreeze your long paste was written by Elizabeth Vliet, M.D. a women's hormone therapist.

Excuse me but that is HILARIOUS! While, I am sure that she knows a lot about hormones, and other personal medical things about women, I would not expect her to be an expert on the political issue that we have been discussing.

My aunts probably know as much as her on the political issue.

To state the very obvious, CoolBreeze is presenting a hormone therapist as an expert on a political discussion.

She could be an expert in her field, which is not politics, journalism, social science, etc.

Ahhh. This the fake umbrage that I'm hearing so much about. Cool Breeze tries to pass off a women's hormone expert as somebody that speaks for women and when called upon that he cries "mysoginyst".

This probably explains the attacks that he keeps making on Sara. Maybe he thinks her opinions are a hormonal problem?

She may try to speak for women, Cool Breeze, but I hardly doubt that women think that she is qualified to do so. It's surprising that you are still arguing for her credibility. It just makes me laugh.

Speaking of laughing it looks like Rand Paul and Rick Perry are bickering with each other. Once again the Republican party is taking it's eye off the end game. Both want to be President but they are destroying each other well before they are facing off with a Democrat.

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/07/rand-paul-rick-perry-feud-108972.html?hp=r...

It looks like Cool Breeze is spewing some more hatred on Sam. On the subject of hate, there has been a discussion of hate on the Web that has gone along the lines that Republican hate Obama more than they love America. Included in their hate is according to the narrator of the video below everyone except white male Christians and their subservient and dutiful wives.

I enjoyed the video below and I realize that it may not be everyone's "cup of tea" (pun intended), I think that it is deserving of a look.

https://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=ApNgmC8PHVjVxpgtMlwHJ5GbvZx4?fr=yfp-t-901-s...

Here is a more direct link to the video. If you click on the other link you would need to select "Scrapple TV".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbncL5828NY

Very enjoyable video Audi. While Cool Breeze is spewing hatred to match the hate from the Tea Party and their like, he appears to be a little out of touch with what the possible Republican presidential candidates are thinking.

They are trying to paint a kinder picture of Republicans, in particular themselves in preparation for the 2016 election. This includes among others Paul Ryan, Rand Paul, and Marco Rubio.

It will be interesting to see how that plays out with the more extreme Republicans.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/some-republicans-push-compassionate-anti-...

I thoroughly enjoyed the video Audi. Sam on the kinder view of the Republicans I see a couple of problems. It is too kind for them to keep up the facade and the Tea Party will fight them.

I think that you are right Geordey. Related to this, I was pleasantly surprised today to find that some people think that the Republican frivolous lawsuit may help win some Democratic House of Representative seats in Congress.

On these seats, the Democrats plan on doing "robocalls" to people in the districts with the below message.

"Republicans in Congress are about to vote to spend millions of taxpayer dollars on a frivolous lawsuit against President Obama. Even worse, Congressman [X] is voting against priorities that actually would help middle class families -- like equal pay for equal work and lower interest rates on student loans...tell Congressman [X] to focus on fixing the economy, not wasting our money."

The Republican plan in the House on immigration is to do nothing. That way they have it both ways:

1. They don't have to compromise with the Senate

2. They don't fix what they are claiming is Obama's problem so they can keep blaming him for a problem that they won't fix.

The Democrats need to make that very clear to people that an immigration problem that the Republicans are constantly complaining about is also something that they refuse to fix because they want to complain about the problem. --- Another case like the Video said of Republicans hating Obama more than they love America.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2014/07/24/morning-plum-gop-law...

It looks like Coool Breeze, while congratulating gainfully employed and HIMSELF on their terrific insults, in their not so humble opinion, have failed to notice that they have resorted once again to name calling and so sad but most of their recent comments will be deleted by Brenda. This is very entertaining!

Of course Cool Breeze would put in an article from Investor's Business Daily. This is what rational wiki has to say about this one.

"Investor's Business Daily (IBD) is an American "newspaper" (with associated website) that (obviously) covers mostly financial, business, and investment news. Put simply, it's more or less the poor man's Wall Street Journal, which goes for its editorial pages as well. Its op-eds are, similarly, notably batty but a thousand times worse, being chock-full of Ben Steinery along with numerous denialist hit pieces, astroturf, and mouthing off by bottom-of-the-barrel wingnuts (e.g., Brent Bozell).

Their editorial cartoons can get very nutty,[1] and their anti-environmentalism can reach astounding heights.[2] At times, they venture into full-on, balls-out conspiracy theory territory when it comes to global warming, including accusing NASA and NOAA of conspiring to manipulate data[3] and fabricated the now popular denialist talking point that James Hansen is a shill for George Soros.[4] (Oh, can't forget Climategate, of course, they were all over that.) This is even less surprising when you notice that they let lobbyists and PR reps for denialist think tanks like the Heartland Institute and the Competitive Enterprise Institute and experts for hire like Michael Fumento pen their (expletive deleted) all over IBD's pages. There's the other usual anti-environmental nonsense as well, including DDT denial and second-hand smoke denial.

IBD's most infamous op-ed was one that, in trying to make an argument against Obamacare, claimed Stephen Hawking would have been euthanized by the NHS if he lived in Britain. Hawking then replied that he credits the NHS with saving his life. In true IBD fashion, they then issued a "correction" noting that the "implication" in the column that Hawking was not a citizen of the UK had been "fixed."[5] They still post less than-accurate-information on Obamacare to this day.

On personal finance matters, IBD promotes investing using CAN SLIM, a pseudoscientific technical analysis of stocks developed by IBD founder William J. O'Neil. One of the claims frequently found in IBD is that a price graph in a "cup and handle" shape indicates an ideal time to buy a stock."

Once again, Cool Breeze, you have entertained! I'm just curious but do you know how to find a reputable source? Do you ever check out your sources?

Looks like the new Political Forum is almost all copy and paste. So much for brain storming.

I hate to disappoint you Cool Breeze but a wiki is a type of encyclopedia that people can contribute too. There are various kinds of wikis.

Wikipedia, and Rational wiki, are two different types, managed by different groups. Can you please start researching before you post? Not anyone can edit rational wiki which came into existence due to some falsehoods on another wiki, which I won't bother to name.

You speak of not which you know, as usual.

Just like the hormone doctor that you tried to pass off as an expert regarding the Republican war on women, it appears you are just going to keep claiming that Investor's Business Daily is an accurate source of information.

First you didn't have a clue that Wikipedia and rational wiki are two different wiki's. When you were called on that you then claim that rational wiki is a source of misinformation.

IBD has been proven to be a source of mus-information by many organizations. Politifact has rated them "pants on fire" for some of their articles. One is below. Protest, all that you want. Your tiresome obtuseness is annoying.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/jul/22/ibdeditorialscom/...

Keep on hoping for your dystopia, Moral majority and let the liberals work on their dream of a utopia. Neither will get exactly what they want but it looks to me like Obama and other liberals are reaching for the right thing.

Would that be socialism??

Moral majority I paid for 2013:

- $20,376 in Federal Taxes

- $7,459 in Idaho Taxes

- $1,264 in real estate taxes for Idaho?

I'm not searching for your wallet, but with your safe government job, it appears that I'm doing a lot to help support you.

Sam, maybe the Republicans can come up with a plan where some Democrats can sponsor some Republicans. For example, you can just pay Moral majority's salary but then you can expect more of him. You could ask him to read more balanced articles, or learn the three correct spellings of to, too, and two.

On the topic of the Republican presidential candidates trying to change how their viewed to being someone more compassionate, "The Atlantic" has a good article on that. It's about the cycle of compassionate conservatism. It says:

"Over the past two decades, since the 1992 presidential election, Republican politics has followed a cycle. It goes like this:

Stage One: A Democrat wins the presidency and expands the size of government.

Stage Two: Republicans mobilize to prevent big government from destroying the American way of life.

Stage Three: Republicans take Congress.

Stage Four: Congressional Republicans battle the Democratic president over the size of government. They cut spending and reduce the deficit, but in the process become wildly unpopular.

Stage Five: The Democratic president uses the unpopularity of the Republican Congress to help win reelection.

Stage Six: Republican presidential candidates ditch their assault on big government and become compassionate conservatives.

We're now back at Stage Six."

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/07/the-cycle-of-compassionate-c...

Ordinarily I'd disagree with throwing how much money you paid in taxes at Moral majority, Sam but he was asking for it with his comment about you searching for his wallet.

I've noticed that some deep conservatives on here are assuming that the liberals on here don't have jobs so they clearly need a reality check.

I have to admit I sunk down a little closer to the people that are calling us "tools" are at.

Moral majority how does your enlistment in CW2 going to affect your job or are the angry, extreme, right wing Republicans going to give you a salary? I want to make sure that your salary details are all worked through so that you don't come up short financially.

Yes, Democrats know about the rule of law, Moral majority. What you apparently don't understand is that there is a balance of powers between the Executive, Legislative, and the Judicial branches of government.

To put that simply for your understanding of Issa's probably illegal subpoena's is that means that the Legislative branch is not the boss of the Executive branch. In the case of this latest subpoena, Issa admits that there is no evidence that anyone in the White House has done anything wrong. He just wants to go on a fishing expedition. Look up what a fishing expedition is and why in legal circles that is a bad thing.

In fact, Issas's record breaking use of subpoenas has started to make himself and other Republicans in congress look RIDICULOUS!

Please research things better.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/07/15/darrell-issas-re...

Moral majority, on the start of CW2 and your belief that you are able to take everything that I have and that I will be hiding, you are deluding yourself.

I am not worried. CW2 is not happening. Just some crazy conservatives that miss the days when while males ruled and wished they could just keep women, blacks, Mexicans, in their place will get drunk some night and start shooting up a town.

They will be arrested or killed.

The sane part of America will scratch their heads and say, I can't believe anyone could be so stupid that they thought they could take on the federal government. Why didn't those darn Republicans just keep up their lying about Democrats to get what they wanted? Was their cause so week that they needed to resort to violence?

When I think of it, it is a very sad story.

Moral majority, you seem to be having a bad day. This is what snopes says.

"The "Alexander Tyler" quoted at the head of the article is actually Lord Woodhouselee, Alexander Fraser Tytler, a Scottish historian/professor who wrote several books in the late 1700s and early 1800s. However, there is no record of a Tytler's having authored a work entitled The Fall of the Athenian Republic (or The Decline and Fall of the Athenian Republic), and the quoted material attributed to him above is likely apocryphal."

Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/athenian.asp#dXKw3IqWRrzY2yQs.99

Didn't Cool Breeze announce that he was staying off the political forum because his name calling comments were deleted and he thought he was being picked on?

I'm having a hard time trying to figure out if you are incredibly stupid, incredibly dishonest, or both of those tings CoolBreeze.

The quote below is the full text of Obama's speech. Some people either as a joke or as an attempt to deceive took two separate comments from that speech to fool people into thinking he made a wholly different message.

"Leaders and dignitaries of the European Union; representatives of our NATO Alliance; distinguished guests: We meet here at a moment of testing for Europe and the United States, and for the international order that we have worked for generations to build.

Throughout human history, societies have grappled with fundamental questions of how to organize themselves, the proper relationship between the individual and the state, the best means to resolve inevitable conflicts between states. And it was here in Europe, through centuries of struggle -- through war and Enlightenment, repression and revolution -- that a particular set of ideals began to emerge: The belief that through conscience and free will, each of us has the right to live as we choose. The belief that power is derived from the consent of the governed, and that laws and institutions should be established to protect that understanding. And those ideas eventually inspired a band of colonialists across an ocean, and they wrote them into the founding documents that still guide America today, including the simple truth that all men -- and women -- are created equal.

But those ideals have also been tested -- here in Europe and around the world. Those ideals have often been threatened by an older, more traditional view of power. This alternative vision argues that ordinary men and women are too small-minded to govern their own affairs, that order and progress can only come when individuals surrender their rights to an all-powerful sovereign. Often, this alternative vision roots itself in the notion that by virtue of race or faith or ethnicity, some are inherently superior to others, and that individual identity must be defined by "us" versus "them," or that national greatness must flow not by what a people stand for, but by what they are against."

Politifact rated this hoax as a "pants on fire". In simple language for you that means that your link is a big fat lie.

By the way the "New World Order" conspiracy theory is also bogus. But feel free to live in terror all of the time.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/jun/23/chain-email/video...

That was a pretty lame attempt to lie about Obama, Cool Breeze. This led me to the question of why Republicans seem to lie so much.

The quote below from the article sums what Republicans are doing and why.

"Republicans are lying as part of an intentional strategy to mislead the country. These aren't a few false statements by individual members of Congress. These lies are party wide talking points. Congressional Republicans have based their investigations of this president on lies, and they believe that if they keep lying long enough, they can convince the American people that they are telling the truth."

http://www.politicususa.com/2013/05/29/sides-it-study-finds-republicans-lie-time...

If you don't want people to think you are stupid Cool Breeze you might consider not posting obvious lies as if they are fact.

In regards to your comment to Geordey, I have to agree that "stupid is as stupid does." Posting an obviously doctored video in order to lie about Obama seems like a pretty stupid thing to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEjN-NwNNRA

Good points Audi on what you wrote and the accompanying video.

I'm a fan of Bill Maher who in this video adds information to the topic of what some Republicans have done and do that seem dishonest and immature.

I don't want to generalize though because there are a lot of good people that are Republicans.

It seems to me that when a person's conservatism is on the extreme fringe that you lose good judgement and don't follow the teachings of Jesus. These are the people who hate Obama and will lie and cheat to try to get other people to feel the same way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5vBPC3MF18

Cool Breeze were you aware that beforeitsnews has a reputation of posting inaccurate information? If the news seems shocking yet no reputable mainstream site is publishing it is probably not factually correct.

"lie about Obama" Seriously, this guy and his administration has been caught in so many cover-ups that there is no real reason to lie about him. What for?? Obama supporters are like small children tattling on each other. When you have the President caught on several occasions covering up the truth to the American people, and cramming his agenda down our throats, now we have a problem. There is no need to lie about this guy, he has written his own story for everyone to read. I just hope they do find a way to get rid of the Socialist psycho before he can do more harm.

So, Cool Breeze, it sounds like you are claiming that you weren't stupid to post a doctored video which changed Obama's message to the opposite of what he was saying. It sounds like you are saying that it's okay to lie because you are "merely giving them some of their own medicine right back to them."

On your list of supposed lies from the Democrats lets take a look at those. But first let's note that some aren't lies, some are differences of opinions, and none are as blatant as doctoring of a video to make it look like someone said something that they didn't. I have to gather from this Cool Breeze that you have very little character.

1. Man-made global warming - Most scientists, from whatever party believe this is accurate. Only extreme science deniers such as yourself don't recognize this serious issue.

2 Bush "lied" about WMD's in Iraq - Bush said that Iraq had WMD's but they were never found. He was either wrong or lied.

3. There's no liberal bias in mainstream media - there is some liberal bias in some news agencies just as there are conservative bias in Fox News. The extreme right wing sites that you, Cool Breeze, read are so biased that they lie constantly. And you are apparently happy to pass on the lies.

4. Republicans are "anti-America" - Republicans in general are not anti - America. I don't think that anybody said that.

5. Republicans "hate" America - Nobody said that either. They said some Conservatives/Republicans hate Obama more than they love America. In other words they are willing to hurt America in order to try to negate Obama's presidency.

6. Bush stole the election through the Supreme Court - A Republican led Supreme Court decided to not look into voting irregularities in Florida, and so allowed Bush to win by less than the popular vote against Al Gore.

7. Bush wanted to abolish Social Security - I haven't seen anybody on the political forum claim that. If you want to go back about 12 years there were accusations back and forth between both Republicans and Democrats on Social Security.

8. Bush invaded Iraq for oil - Oil was a consideration by some of Bush's advisers but the more realistic theory is that Bush invaded Iraq as one-up-man-ship on his father.

Sam I agree that there is a big distinction about disputing a fact such as Global Warming and knowingly doctoring a video in order to make it appear that someone (Obama) is saying something that he never said.

However, I have observed that Cool Breeze is more embarrassed or bothered by comments on his intelligence than his honesty. It would be like him to mistake what would seem obvious to others such as a doctored video for the real thing. If that led to a question of his intelligence than he might very well claim that he wasn't fooled and submitted the lie because Democrats, in his opinion, deserved it.

Just throwing something out for consideration.

Sam_1776,

In regards to: "There are no good options" Posted Wednesday, June 25, 2014, at 8:15 AM.

I totally agree with your comment on my comment; since you are the confirmed master of very simplified, and extremely inaccurate remarks you are clearly in the best position to point one out when you seen it. All I can say is, "I learned this from reading you Sam_1776...I learned this from reading you!" Have a nice day!

Moral majority, I am a Democrat and know many Democrats and I have yet to meet a Democrat that as you say "Don't think people can do anthing without their help".

Not only with the Republican hope to someday not be thought of as the "stupid party" they also need to focus on their perception by most Americans that they lack empathy for poor Americans and even the middle class.

"The GOP problem with low income Americans isn't the legacy of Mitt Romney; it is their fundamental philosophy that the number one job for government is to help the wealthy," - Bill Burton (Democratic strategist)

The excuse that you use for not helping the poor is that it is for their own good. That is a feeble excuse because the perception from what you've said before is that you don't want to pay taxes to help the poor.

Cool Breeze it sounds like you need to be educated in what is a lie. A lie is blatantly posting of a video that has been edited to change the meaning of words said to totally change the message of the person in order to falsely portray bad intentions on that person.

That is what you did about Obama. Why would we keep believing your lies about him. You seem to have issues.

Cool Breeze, once again you are wasting people's time with your lies and exaggerations. Maybe you should give yourself a test?

In regards to your apparent claim that the video wasn't doctored. I'll once again describe what politifact said about the hoax.

Politifact rated this hoax as a "pants on fire". In simple language for you that means that your link is a big fat lie.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/...

The very simple question has been answered many times, Cool Breeze, but yet you keep trying to waste people's time with it.

I will direct you to my response that I sent on Sun, Jul 27, 2014, at 10:47 AM, to help you understand an error vs. a blatant lie.

See the dictionary definition of lying. By this definition:

1. Obama did not lie as I think that he didn't KNOWINGLY say something that was untrue.

2. His statement was untrue, not for most people, but for some, so the statement was a lie.

On your doctored video.

1. You knowingly are lying about it. You no longer have the excuse that you didn't know because you have been provided evidence of what was really said.

2. The doctored video was a lie.

Cool Breeze -7, Obama +1 on this one.

Definition of lie by Dictionary.com

noun

1. a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood. Synonyms: prevarication, falsification. Antonyms: truth.

2. something intended or serving to convey a false impression; imposture: His flashy car was a lie that deceived no one.

3. an inaccurate or false statement; a falsehood.

4. the charge or accusation of telling a lie: He flung the lie back at his accusers.

verb (used without object), lied, ly·ing.

5. to speak falsely or utter untruth knowingly, as with intent to deceive. Synonyms: prevaricate, fib.

6. to express what is false; convey a false impression.

Cool Breeze you kept demanding an answer from Sam who finally gave you the answer and then you complain because he answered you. Calling his answer unnecessary and him a "tool". You don't seem to have a very logical mind.

I found this link to be very insightful about your use of logic.

http://politicalirony.com/2011/03/05/the-logic-of-hate/

I'm surprised that Brenda is not having a problem with you calling people "tools". I thought name calling wasn't allowed.

STOP!!!!!!!!!!! Discuss your topic not each other. Thank you.

It seems to be question day in the neighborhood so that people can complain about the answers to the questions. The questions premises are not based on accurate facts. For example, "You said X" however X was never said.

On another topic, it appears that the House of Representatives have passed a tax credit bill that helps out the upper middle class and takes away from the more poor Americans that are working but just not making 160k a year.

Of course it had heavy Republican support and few Democrats voted for it. It also doesn't stand a chance of passing in the Senate.

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2014/07/republican-house-child-tax-credit-bill

I think this pretty much supports the fact that Republicans want to help those making the most money even at the expense of the less affluent.

Wow! Somebody thinks his rude questions are made of gold and deserving of an answer.

My savior is Jesus Christ and I haven't heard anyone calling him a liar although I have noticed some not following his instructions.

Your questions bore me.

I find it ironic for you to claim people are lying after that tremendous whopper you told regarding the doctored video. You don't have much credibility on that subject.

Moral majority your article seems to be about the question of who is working on solving the refugee problem. Everyone, just about, wants Congress to do it but Congress is too busy playing political games.

Since Congress isn't acting Obama needs to use the powers that he has, Executive Actions, to handle the situation as best he can.

Moral majority, your comment on the "Hatch Act" was interesting. The article that you posted with it seems to be just a story where Lois Lerner referenced some Republicans as "crazies" and also referred to them by a name that a lot of people use but I can't put on the forum.

It has no information for when she made the comments, and what instigated the comments so it's hard to say if that is much of a problem that had anything at all to do with the Hatch Act. If it was after they called her up to testify for a second time to testify just so that they could get mad again about her invoking her 5th amendment rights, well, that does seem a little crazy.

It seems to me that there should be a Hatch Act for Congress too and maybe there will be for what Issa and others are doing but for also who leaked her comments to the press.

I'd comment on your other links but there is just too many, as in quantity not quality.

It sounds to me that Lerner was providing an honest appraisal of the situation. The link that you provided had no reference to the Hatch act. That is your own subjective thinking.

Moral majority, it does not appear that you are a lawyer so I have to ask, other than being a government worker, what makes you an expert on the Hatch Act and what it is illegal to do?

It all comes back to this. The Republicans have been investigating for a really long time yet there doesn't seem to be anything that can be charged against Lerner. She is right, the people pursuing are the "crazies" and that other word that she said.

I also have to note again that the article that you posted where her comments were leaked by the Republicans, it is very noticeable that the context in where the comments were made were not included. -- The article is a half truth at best. The Hatch Act claim from you doesn't stand up to scrutiny IMO.

This political site is a lot like walking through a feed lot in your tennis shoes.

GUESS WHAT DAY IT IS !!!!!!!

GO TO WALMART IN YOUR PJ'S DAY!!!!!!

In reference to Moral majority's comment that being president is Obama's first job, here is the truth.

Obama graduated from Columbia University with a B.A. in Political Science with an International Relations focus, and graduated from Harvard Law, magna *** laude.

Jobs before going to Harvard Law School

1. Community Organizer a job which led to him being the director of the Developing Communities Project, a church based project.

2. Consultant and instructor for the Gamaliel Foundation, a community organizing institute.

Jobs while at Harvard Law School

1. Editor of the Harvard Law Review

2. President of the Law Review

3. Associate at the law firms of Sidley & Austin and later at Hopkins & Sutter.

Jobs after Harvard Law School

1. Wrote his book

2. Director of Illinois Project Vote, a voter registration drive

3. Constitutional Law Professor at the University of Chicago Law School (12 years)

4. Attorney at Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland

5. Founding member of the board of director of Public Allies

6. Served on the board of directors of the Woods Fund of Chicago, the Joyce Foundation, Chicago Annenberg Challenge, Chicago Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, Center for Neighborhood Technology and the Lugenia Burns Hope Center.

7. Illinois State Senator

8. U.S. Senator from Illinois.

9. President of the United States

Love that milk party. Handing out thousands of straws at the border. Don't even have to be accompanied by a parent.

In regards to Moral majority's claim that the e-mails from Lois Lerner were official IRS e-mails and therefore a violation of the Hatch act.

The link provided by Moral majority does not show the context in which she made the references about Republicans nor does it claim that they were official IRS e-mails. The article only claims that it shows Lerner's opinions of Republicans.

The comments that were claimed in the article, seem to be an accurate portrayal of the Republicans that she was dealing with on the continuing, silly investigation.

I rate the following comment as very inaccurate.

"They were official IRS e mails, thus the Hatch applies.You cant be biased in any way while on official duty or on a Government computer. I cant wait for the rest to mysteriously turn up."

-- Posted by Moral majority on Thu, Jul 31, 2014, at 9:24 AM

Good job on trying to separate fact from fiction, Sam. This may interest you.

It seems that the Junior Senator from Texas, Ted Cruz, is again trying to act as Speaker of the House of Representatives. He was rabble rousing with some Tea Party Republicans in the House to hold out and make the border bill to provide money to handle the border crisis, even more unreasonable,and so Boehner didn't have the votes and took back the bill.

Mother Jones said "Rep. Steve Stockman (R-Texas) offered a telling glimpse of why Boehner failed:

Boehner's failure is not just an instance of unsuccessful political gamesmanship. It could cause real trouble. If Congress leaves town without appropriating new funds for the border, the federal government's border enforcement efforts will soon hit a wall. The Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency is set to run out of funds by mid-August, and the coffers at the Customs and Border Protection are expected to dry up by mid-September. So not only are Boehner and the Republicans in the ugly position of having done nothing related to the border crisis (while taking time out to sue the president), they have sabotaged one of the few policy matters they claim to care about: border security. Cruz's conniving and Boehner's ineptitude make a difficult combination for the GOP."

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/07/boehner-cruz-border-security-bill-fa...

Moral majority that paragraph says "partisan political activity even if they are off duty and outside the Federal workforce."

She called some crazy Republicans "crazies" and referred to them by another derogatory name, in an e-mail or e-mail(s) that have been leaked by the politically biased investigative committee, however they didn't leak the full story. They didn't leak, for example what the e-mails were about, who the e-mails were to, and so on and so forth. For all we know, she was sending an e-mail to her boss complaining about being attempted to be framed by the rabid Issa committee.

The article that you cited was not claiming that she violated the Hatch Act. It was not claiming that she was participating in a political activity of any kind. It only claimed that she thought SOME Republicans had some issues.

This brings me to another question. Why is the Lerner e-mails so important? So what if she didn't like some Republicans?

I see no need to try to stretch this into something that isn't even close to the truth.

Lois Lerner is soooooooo guilty that after spending millions of dollars investigating her and reviewing thousands of her emails the cracker jack Republicans are mot able to charge her for anything.

It seems to me that she wasn't doing anything but reporting on the problem when she discovered it.

I recommend that you, and I mean Cool Breeze and Moral majority, do at least some minimal research. While you're at it look into the American concept of innocent until proven guilty.

Cool Breeze your first paragraph appears to be a cut and paste from something. Do you care to reveal your source or should we just search the Web?

The person that posted a link to BeforeItsNew with a video falsified to make it look like Obama said something that he didn't is advising people against Mother Jones. That cracks me up. Cool Breeze please show us where Mother Jones lied anything like BeforeItsNews.

I think most people comprehend that you are unable to show that Mother Jones posted as big of a LIE as you posted from BeforeItsNews.

Now do you have a topic to discuss?

MOMMY MOMMY,

Conservative posted a bigger lie than I did...

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

The first paragraph from Cool Breeze's comment about Mother Jones appears to come from the English Wikipedia, although that paragraph has also been listed in multiple right wing sites. The right wing sites seem to LOVE to talk about her affiliation with unions. If they can't attack the message, they attack what they can.

http://en.wikipedia.orgwiki/Mother_Jones_(magazine)

The list of awards that Mother Jones has received, is long. For the last four years it has been nominated for the "National Magazine Award for General Excellence. During the last four years it has won twice.

Mother Jones has a liberal bent, but tells the truth.

On the subject of the border crises and Congress's continued ineffectiveness, the Washington Post reported that they did pass two bills. Unfortunately, the Tea Party had influenced the bills to be so right wing that they stand little to no chance of passing in the Senate. The president has no choice but to use what Executive Actions that he has available to him.

Meanwhile, Congress has left for their five week vacation/campaign and will try to convince the voters that they passed something that, as John Nance Garner said "is not worth a bucket of warm spit".

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/house-gop-moves-closer-on-immigration-bil...

Sam, the bills that the Republicans passed in the house are indeed a joke. The Tea Party Republican Congressmen at the urging of junior senator, Ted Cruz made the bills ineffective because they are such bad, mean spirited, right wing, and stupid bills that won't even be considered in the Senate.

Here is an interesting quote.

"This situation shows the intense concern within our conference -- and among the American people -- about the need to ensure the security of our borders and the president's refusal to faithfully execute our laws," the House Republican leadership press release stated. "There are numerous steps the president can and should be taking right now, without the need for congressional action, to secure our borders and ensure these children are returned swiftly and safely to their countries." - John Boehner, July 31, 2014

In the above quote Boehner is urging the president to take executive actions, shortly after deciding to sue Obama for taking executive actions. Ironic isn't it?

Obama is now considering executive action because Congress failed to do its job and just wait until you hear the fake umbrage from Boehner over that.

For more information see below.

http://thinkprogress.org/immigration/2014/07/31/3466389/boehner-tells-obama-take...

Random Stranger,

You are absolutely correct. Said it a long time ago. Special interest groups run this country. They are what get the politicians elected, and in return politicians see that their needs are met.

Our current president however seems to have his own personal special interest group. Those on assistance and those running across our border. He is doing his best to see that their needs are being met. I agree with you in that it is really not as complicated as some on this site might want to think.

Random stranger, you have a good point.

Takers Moral majority? Who are the takers?

1. Government workers

2. Etc.

The quote from Boehner should be clarified. It was a press release, issued by Boehner.

Has anyone discussed yet that the apparent hatred of Obama could be less racial and more an example of sour grapes? The Republicans were in shock when he beat Romney and they started increasing their efforts to nullify his presidency in hopes of winning in 2016.

The problem that they have is even if the get a majority in the Senate in 2014 it will not be a 2/3 majority so all they can keep doing is stopping progress. Audi you are right. Some conservatives hate Obama more than they love America and more than they think they should tell the truth.

caspertghost, I think that you are right in that some of the hatred comes from sour grapes that are still remaining after the last two presidential elections.

Another reason is race, as can be seen by various comments mostly coming from the Tea Party, and can be seen indirectly through attitudes expressed on the MHN sites.

Some people think that he is Muslim, despite evidence to the contrary and they know that he has religious tolerance to other religions than his own Christian religion.

Some people hate anyone that is not a white male, and his dutiful wife and children.

These people tend to lie about Obama constantly, passing on their own lies but also the script prepared for them by the Tea Party which they pick up from right wing sites, masquerading as news sites.

That tells me a lot about the people telling the lies. They seems like miniature Sarah Palins playing fast and easy with the facts.

The video is about the border crisis and the law that Obama is following, which was signed into law by Bush. Palin thinks Obama should be impeached for following the law.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJXLSVd8rok

Moral majority, not all government workers, like not all workers in private enterprise earn everything that they make.

I can think of a certain government worker, working for the VA, that posted on the MHN blog a letter from the VA that should have only gone to his government computer.

About 20 years ago, I worked for a few years for the government and there was a computer programmer that would light up his pipe and lean back in his chair and smoke all afternoon. When a manager walked in, he would try to look busy.

I also remember government workers who recently got paid while being on furlough.

I think that Geordie meant to say that you shouldn't be calling people takers unless you are free from that sin yourself. -- Geordie if I misspoke on this let me know.

Cool Breeze, you keep forgetting that the only poll that matters is the presidential election and, sadly, your guy lost. Twice.

The Republicans can't seem to settle things between themselves and they can't stop being the "stupid party", a name that they gave themselves. Because of that they are going to have a hard time winning any national election in the future.

Moral majority, you are trying to claim that Geordie doesn't have a job in order to suggest that he is a "taker" and not you. You don't know anything about him.

If I were you, and didn't like being called a "taker", I'd stop calling other people that.

Moral majority, I have a job outside of government. I consider a "taker" as a government employee not giving 100 percent. If they don't give 100 percent then they are taking pay for doing less than what they should. I wouldn't call a government employee a taker though unless he was calling others takers then I kind of think he deserves it.

Ha ha Cool Breeze. The extreme fundamental difference between you and Sam is he likes to tell the truth and you have lied over and over again. Should I mention again the doctored video?

Another difference is that he researches issues and you quote the Tea Party line from various extreme right wing sites.

Repeating always the Tea Party narrative seems to be a good example of "blind partisanship".

It appears that Americans are unified in their poor opinion of Congress's effectiveness. Good luck incumbents in the 2014 elections.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/08/04/how-much-do-people-hat...

Sam and Geordey. Here is some more on the Tea Party narrative that may interest you.

The article below contends that like the government shutdown, the immigration crisis is being manipulated by Ted Cruz, acting in the role of Speaker of the House, which Boehner lets him do until he has no choice but to act. What delays Boehner having to take action are apparently two things: (1) burn rate of money to handle the crisis (it may be slower than originally estimated) and (2) Obama's use of Executive Action in order to re-arrange money to handle the border crisis.

This puts some risks on some, originally thought to be secure, Republican Congressional seats because of Latino voters. It will be interesting to see how the election goes.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2014/08/04/for_second_time_boehner_let...

That's pretty funny Cool Breeze. It appears that you and your little right wing web site, pretending to be a news site, needs to understand a little more about polls.

The stated Margin of error is 3.9%. That means:

Republican 43 percent could be really be between 39.1 and 46.9

Democrat 41 percent could be really be between 37.1 and 44.9.

What this means is that the poll was inconclusive.

NOTE that a margin of error is NOT A DIRECT MATCH on all answers. So, if the Republican comment were off by -2, the Democratic comments aren't automatically off by -2, and would actually be statistically improbable for them to match.

Once again, try to be a little more discerning about what you read and post.

Before you embarrass yourself further, Cool Breeze, you and newsmax should look up "margin of error" in polling to see what that means.

NBC, and the other organizations that participated in the poll are showing the results, but not showing any headlines about your item since it was inconclusive.

The poll did have some interesting conclusive results though. NBC's headline was "74 Percent of Voters Say Congress Has Been Unproductive". They mention your item, noting the margin for error. Discerning people take note of the word "margin for error".

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/poll-74-percent-voters-say-congress-h...

I think that the margin of error on Cool Breeze's 0 percent guess is 95.2 percent.

I think Sam is 90 percent credible. I should note that I think my margin of error is 10 percent.

It seems to me that correctly looking at a poll result and recognizing the significant result, the large majority that think Congress is not doing its job, is the opposite of denial. And it sounds like you learned something about what margin of error means.

It currently looks like Republicans are doing better in the 2014 Congressional elections but if they don't stop the stupid behavior they may give the election to the Democrats.

What's wrong with this country is too much hatred, intolerance and lies coming from the Tea Party. There is a lot of good in this country. Hooray for the moderates of any party!

I am REAL AMERICAN too.

"I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

I omitted nothing.

What Pale Ale seems to realize is that his wording of the Pledge of Allegiance matches more closely and possibly exactly the original wording. Adding "Under God" was a 20th Century thing. I thought some of you were against new fangled ideas?

Yeah, Moral majority, I honestly wonder if you read the links that you post? CMS says that they "might" have lost some e-mails which are part of the 135,000 documents and 71,000 e-mails already turned over to yet another witch hunt Republican led committee.

How many millions of dollars do you think it is taking to locate this much information and look at it? What is terribly wrong with this picture is a tremendous waste of tax payer money.

Read more: http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/214625-obamacare-office-raises-possibility-...

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Moral majority, you should try reading your own link or better yet read some additional news stories on that interview. Some things to note:

1. Hillary Clinton is not a "queen" but I see that you can't get by without name calling.

2. Hillary Clinton is running for President and she is establishing herself as an independent candidate who will do her own thing as President. Most people agree that this is a smart move for her. It gives her the benefits of establishing herself as a leader, rather than a follower, on foreign policy. She also removes the negative occurrences in the world after her tenure by suggesting that she would do better.

Cool Breeze and Moral majority, I didn't say that Clinton was an Independent (capital I and therefore a political affiliation -- a noun. I said "independent candidate" meaning that she is not therefore cut from the same cloth as another person (lower case I -- an adjective).

If you guys aren't able to pick up the nuances of how a word is used and whether it is capitalized, uncapitalized, is the name of something or merely descriptive of something then I imagine that would impact your reading comprehension and understanding of basic facts. No wonder your world is so scary.

No, I'll put the credit where it lies Cool Breeze. Your reading comprehension is low and when you make errors on that you blame other people.

Try backing up your wild claims with facts. Yes the Middle East isn't getting along. The United States can't solve their problems every time, and going to war on a credit card isn't the answer.

Moral majority, do you realize that you are posting a blog as a fact?

Since you like blogs so much here is one that you might enjoy.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dave-johnson/three-charts-to-email-to_b_5664699.ht...

Random Stranger, I believe Cool Breeze's dead hero guy is Ronald Reagan, the actor, governor who became president with little education but had great one-liners, probably supplied by his staff. His alive hero guy is probably Glenn Beck.

Sam, I agree that Cool Breeze and Moral majority are having trouble telling independent thought from a person that is politically an Independent. Clinton is trying to distance herself from Obama as part of her strategy for running for president. I heard that she has an automatic win on the Democratic Party and so needs to emphasize a little her more interventionist foreign policy to attract moderate Republicans. And believe me I am not talking about or to Cool Breeze or Moral majority.

Now liberals are calling themselves independents?

I guess the liberal thing doesn't look to good for them after all. This circus only gets better.

Thanks for my morning chuckle. Funny to watch them jump ship. They even built themselves a new one. Won't be long before it also sinks.

dude where's my car you seem to be misreading something.

You seem to be pretty wise on this Random Stranger. While some on this blog may long for Ronald Reagan he had his own failures.

The Iran-Contra Affair is one. American weapons were traded for hostages and were used by the rebels in Nicaragua.

Another was the Robert Bork nomination, and not rescinding the nomination when the guy turned out to be an idiot.

He sent Marines to Lebanon with not enough strength to do other than fail miserably.

Reagan strengthened the power of the presidency by acting without Congress on many things. Those that don't like Obama using his executive powers should take a really hard look at Reagan.

Audi, you make good points on Clinton's reasoning of trying to put some distance between her and Obama on foreign policy. With her book and the next two years she needs to establish her own foreign policy, which I'm afraid may be more interventionist. Nothing like Bush though, who was a Cowboy looking for a war to fight and led us into our economic problems.

On the subject of the basic understanding of the difference between Independent the noun and independent the adjective it appears to me that some people may be as stupid as the aforementioned washer woman.

Cool Breeze, I'm pretty sure that you use the expression "partisan hack" to describe anyone that disagrees with you. It's as overused as the word "fathom" can be.

Moral majority, as I've said before, if you want to be taken seriously you shouldn't shop for your false/exaggerated information from the Daily Caller.

The Daily Caller is under Rational Wiki as "Fun: Really Embarrassing Conservatives" under the category of "General Media Idiots".

Tucker Carlson who runs the Daily Caller, has engaged in many questionable antics including pretending to be a former MSNBC journalist that was fired and as that person slandered MSNBC. He is currently working for Fox News but as recently as a few days ago got in an argument with them with the cameras rolling about a gun law story. His time with Fox may be cut short.

Have others been watching and reading about the turmoil in Missouri where you have people protesting in their back yards being told to "go home" by the police. You also have picture of police dressed up for military combat in response to the protests, most of whom have been non-violent, over the shooting of a black teenager.

The FBI has gotten involved to assist the police. The people have been told to calm down. Others say that the police need to calm down.

The Atlantic had a more distant view of the problem, seeing the problems as a trend where the local police are starting to be armed like soldiers only they aren't soldiers.

It surprises me to see the normal old, shots at Obama from the far right (boring) when there is right now big news happening that should be a concern.

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/08/ferguson-police-face-civil-r...

Moral majority, don't think for a moment that I'm going to dwell in the land of right wing paranoia. The FEMA camp paranoia, the brown shirt paranoia and so on has nothing to do with the situation in Missouri.

It is the city police, not the federal government dressed up and armed like soldiers. The federal government is trying to get the city police to stop provoking protests.

"Our allies don't trust us;"

Considering the Bush administration and John McCain swore Pakistan was an "ally," I'd suggest we can't trust our "allies."

"Our enemies laugh at us;"

Osama bin Laden certainly isn't laughing.

"Putin looks down on us;"

No more than he did when he invaded the Republic of Georgia during the Bush administration.

"Gun store owners can't get bullets for the average law abiding citizens that want to protect themselves;"

Because of a high demand fomented by conservative paranoia.

"Police departments in the mid-west have tanks;"

Which began in the '90s and gained momentum when the Republicans controlled the White House and Congress from 2000 to 2006.

"Stricter Gun laws for the average law-abiding citizen;"

The biggest change President Obama signed to gun laws was permitting individuals to carry them in national parks; Republicans and moderate Democrats shut down "stricter gun laws," even after a "law-abiding gun-owner" had her guns stolen by her whack-job son and used to shoot up an elementary classroom in Connecticut.

"Illegal immigrants getting paid-for attorneys;"

Yeah, it's called due process and it's promised by the Bill of Rights

"We're still dependent upon the Middle-East for oil when we have more oil under the continental US than all of the Middle-East;"

The U.S. drills for more domestic oil and natural gas under the Obama administration than it did under the Bush and Clinton administrations.

"Attorney General Holder chooses to enforce what ever law he wants"

Prosecutorial discretion has existed since the country's founding. If it didn't pre-date President Obama, drug user Rush Limbaugh would be in prison right now.

"and a president who stomps on the constitution any chance he gets."

The only ways in which President Obama "stomps" on the Constitution all started with the Republican-passed Patriot Act and other conservative-supported policies.

"I didn't know the Bill of Rights applied to forigen invaders, imagine that."

-- Posted by Moral majority on Fri, Aug 15, 2014, at 11:02 AM

Moral majority your definition of "forigen (sp) invaders" like your spelling of it is way off.

The Bill of Rights was for the "people of the United States". We aren't allowed to take away the rights of non-citizens.

Thanks Plath fan for responding to Moral majority's list of false information. He tires me at times and I frequently don't bother.

Do the rights listed in the Bill of Rights come from God? If His generosity can be stopped by a national border, then He must be a weak, pathetic God.

Moral majority, The Atlantic article was from November 22, 2011 so it's a bit out of date. Your "article" is really a critique of an essay written by Jonathan Chait, who the author of the editorial feels was not critical enough of Obama on some things.

He has a right to his opinion, but it is hardly the view of The Atlantic that you are claiming. They have articles and editorials that span a lot of political ideologies and sometimes are not political at all.

Kudos those for attempting to read it but I think it was just a search for anti-Obama stuff that led you to it. Why not just take a current issue and read the articles. Some may say good things about Obama, some may say bad things about Obama, but most won't mention him at all.

A second autopsy of Michael Brown has been authorized, this time by the federal government. It seems that the city of Ferguson autopsy mentioned Brown dying of gunshot wounds but failed to mention how many gunshot wounds.

The governor of Missouri is also upset with the city for releasing the video of Michael Brown stealing cigars from the convenience store. That, of course, was to try the victim before anybody has heard from the police the reason why he had to be shot and shot multiple times. Stilling cigars, is not IMO a hanging offense and certainly not something up for vigilante justice.

It does seem strange that the city posted the video but has not described what the officer's story is.

You must think you are psychic Moral majority. The witnesses didn't report what you are describing and the police officer and the police are not telling the police officer's version of why an 18 year old that was unarmed was shot several times. ----- Is that what you wish happened?

BTW battery is not someone shoving someone with no injuries to the person shoved.

Oh, that's too bad that you are calling Moral majority an idiot Cool Breeze. The Inquistr that you posted a link for is not exactly a respected news source.

I did check CNN about the officer's swollen face on one side. We haven't seen a picture of it, and I'm wondering if a picture was taken since the police seem to be incompetent in Ferguson. Was the officer playing basketball before the incident or did he really get hit in the incident, or after the incident did he slam his head against his car to come up with an injury? Who knows, we only have his word which contradicts the word of witnesses.

Now the witnesses, word in one instance contradicts the second autopsy. They said that he was shot in the back and the autopsy shows that he was shot in the front except for the shot in the top of his head.

There had to be a second autopsy because the city autopsy just said that Brown died from gunshot wounds. It turned out that there were about six with two being fatal to his head. It seems like overkill to me however I'm withholding judgement although the lack of information from the police seems very revealing.

It's time for the police to be more forthcoming but since they aren't I'm glad that there is a second federal Civil Rights investigation occurring.

Wrong Michael Brown, Moral majority. Maybe Cool Breeze is right about you.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/14/1321543/-Proactive-Defense-of-Mike-Brow...

When you attempt to try the victim, Michael Brown, you could try to get information on the right person Moral Majority.

"CNN take on the officers side of the story:

http://thelead.blogs.cnn.com/2014/08/18/..."

-- Posted by Moral majority on Tue, Aug 19, 2014, at 10:07 AM

Maybe you should read the story Moral majority. CNN says that there is no physical evidence on Michael Brown's body that there was a struggle.

They have not seen the medical report, if it exists on Wilson.

Bottom line is that CNN says that the evidence available at this time doesn't back up the story.

No thanks, Moral majority. I'm staying in Idaho and will try to clean up what I can here. These are some of the things that I want to reduce by calling attention to them.

1. Political lies

2. Doctored videos and photographs to distort/lie about the actions of those the extreme right hates

3. Racism and other forms of bigotry

I'm wondering why you are taking such a position that the white cop was justified in pumping 6 bullets into an 18 year old black kid? Why not wait for the facts?

I on the other hand would like for the city police in Ferguson to be more forthcoming and answer some questions such as:

1. If the officer claims that Brown was struggling to get his gun has DNA been lifted from the gun or is the evidence gone on that before the FBI had a chance to get to it?

2. Why are there apparently no injuries on Brown to support a struggle?

3. Why are there absolutely no witnesses to support the officer's supposed story. A witness BTW is someone that actually sees something as opposed to the friend of the officer's significant other calling anonymously into a radio show to say what her friend said her boyfriend said about the incident.

4. Why haven't the city police been questioning the other real witnesses? As of well into last week they hadn't.

Speaking of thugs you've really got to watch out for 18 year old cigar thieves. Better shoot them down before they rob and rape you right Moral majority?

Robbing and raping Moral majority? From what I've seen on the news the Ferguson police have a consistant pattern of discrimination so that the mostly Black community is kept down by a mostly white police force. They call that racism.

Apparently the town gets a good part of its income from traffic stops and many are stopped for the crime of "driving while Black".

Just to weigh in on this real fast, these types of incidents are exactly why we should all be demanding more transparency from our police departments. All police should wear those body cameras, then we would have true accountability for not just police, but for the citizens they arrest as well. It is so frustrating to see these things play out knowing we will never get the whole story. My other thought is why does it always turn out this way? Police officer uses deadly force, community riots and loots... Don't the looters care that they are destroying their own community? Don't the police care that every single time something like this occurs, it results in more distrust? More fear? As a society, we are always trying to sort it out and figure out who is to blame, but we never seem to be able to get to the next step of preventing it from happening again.

From what I've been hearing it appears that at least some of the protestors that have been looting and using violence may be outside protestors who took advantage of the situation to do some looting.

Most of the people are protesting peaceably.

Moral majority you seem like you are in a frenzy to insure that the white guy is innocent and the black guy is guilty.

1. On your injuries comment - the claim is that there were "severe" injuries to the white guy yet he apparently went home without being hospitalized and has apparently left the state.

2. On the credibility issues of the black guy's friends, well that is the Inquistr saying that and it has giant credibility issues.

3. On the 2nd autopsy being questioned, well the FBI is doing a 3rd one and the 1st one, done by those questioning the 2nd autopsy, is not being published and apparently didn't bother to count how many holes there were.

It might be a good idea to wait for the evidence or at least pick better sources for your claims.

"This is how absolutely twisted the liberal mentality is:

http://news.yahoo.com/bless-you-suspensi..."

-- Posted by Moral majority on Thu, Aug 21, 2014, at 3:02 PM

The students are being disruptive over the issue of religion. The school is right. It has been blown out of proportion.

Moral majority do you get the feeling that you are talking to yourself as you post your venom against liberals and especially Obama? Take a look around on what is going on in the world?

1. Russia is sending missiles into the Ukraine.

2. James Foley was beheaded in the Middle East.

3. Rick Perry has been indicted for a crime in Texas.

4. Two Americans have been cured of Ebola.

Why not move on from what the crazy dailycaller tells you that you should be worrying about?

Republicans loves those guns; They also love war; A war between brothers, families, friends and neighbors just because of a political philosophy is what our local Republicans would love. A new Civil War is what they say they'd love.

Do your own research; if you crave war and settling your political differences with your muskets the Republican Party is your baby. If working towards a better nation in a sane and educated manner is more your style, the Democrats would love to have your support; let freedom ring.

I seem to see both Democrats and Republicans in Ferguson Cool Breeze. Some are working together to achieve justice, others are not.

Republicans love their guns so much they cheer on the Army * errr, law enforcement in Ferguson as they shoot down unarmed jaywalking citizens. Maybe the new Republican Civil War has already started.

Do your own research; it's the Republicans who are hatin and ragin but let freedom ring

Republicans insist they are Patriots and the only true Americans. The meaning of patriot and true American must have changed to * dishonest * in the Republican school of thought recently. Even Merriam-Webster hasn't recognized the Republican new definition yet.

Rick Perry = indicted.

Chris Christie = ongoing bridge scandal.

Scott Walker = under investigation.

Rand Paul = known serial plagiarizer and near pathological liar.

All these Republicans = Top runners for Republican Presidential candidate in 2016.

Things are getting so bad other top Republicans are calling for Mitt Romney to run again.

Do your own research; If all those front runners appeal to your patriotic side then the Republican Party is custom made for your mentality. The facts are clear; the Democrats are the sane and educated Party of success for this nation. Let freedom ring

Good post Sara and welcome back. I work with Sam.

The Republican Party is running scared now. They think; because they can't find the facts or any evidence; those 10-13 year old Central American refugees are carrying Ebola. But the latest shocking development from the Republican News Corps is these young refugees are also highly trained Hamas and Islamic terrorist warriors coming for the big ObamaUprising against Christians.

We know the Republicans are itching for their New Civil War; or so they say. Now they say we have an army of 12 year olds coming to make war on the USA. Just 30 days ago the Republicans were sure these refugees were fleeing their home countries to get ObamaCare, an ObamaPhone and possibly set up a business in Mountain Home to steal high schoolers jobs.

Do your own research to discover if what the Republicans say is fact. If you find you like their scary 12 year old highly training warrior explanation the Republicans should get your vote. We're sure you'll discover the Republicans are just trying to scare you. Come on over to the Democrat Party; the sane and educated Party; let freedom ring

The "shoe" is not on the other foot Moral majority. In this case, although the case is still being investigated the young man had a warrant out against him and had been telling people that the police would not take him alive. It looks like a suicide by cop to me. Also, it is being reported, correctly in the news, although, of course slanted and exaggerated by the right wing pretend news sites.

http://www.ksl.com/?sid=31104149

The Republicans are now pushing a new conservative scandal. The * War on Whites and the Racist Media Agenda *. The Republicans new Civil War goes hand in hand with the War on Whites.

Do your research, people. The Republicans love war; they want hate; they thrive on rage. If the Republican ideology is near and dear to that heart of yours, vote for them. If not, look into the sane and educated Democrat Party.

Moral majority do you know what a "strong arm robbery is"? He shoved somebody with his arm, not even knocking him down.

It wasn't an "armed robbery". You are cracking me up!

It looks to me after reviewing the conversation that Moral majority and Cool Breeze are saying incorrectly STRONG ARMED ROBBERY when in fact the robbery was a STRONG ARM ROBBERY. What a difference a ED can make to the definition of a word. Cool Breeze and Moral majority try to pay more attention to detail.

Wouldn't the definition of a felony vary by state?

The Republicans are now trying to imply they are the party of peace. Facts, rhetoric and current behavior prove otherwise.

2009-2014 = Bragged about training for the new American Revolution they desperately wanted, needed and planned for years. War they wanted was Americans against Americans.

2014 = The new American Revolution canceled. The new Republican hoped for American Civil War cheered for. Planning in progress. Republicans cannot wait for war to start. War they want is Americans against Americans.

Do your research. The Republican sweat violence, bullets, fear and war out their pores. You can look back 5, 10 or 20 years but the fact is, the current Republican asylum wants war. War against anyone but mostly the Republicans choose war against other Americans. Democrats are not cheering for war and haven't been for the last 10 years. Come on over to the sane and educated Democrat Party. Let freedom ring

This wonderful little manifesto from the Republican peace-lovers was written about 1 month ago;

* Or mabye, and I dont want to speak for him, He hates liberals as much as I do, and as much as half the country does! Like I have said before, I would love for a new civil war to break out in this country, then we can settle it once and for all!!!

-- Posted by Moral majority on Wed, Jul 23, 2014, at 10:38 AM *

Republican pores are filled with hate. Current history shows us the Republican Party wants to put us in new wars. Another fact the Republicans can't deny......but we're sure they'll try.

Do the research. Facts and truth are easy to find. Vote Democrat in 2014 and beyond for a sane and educated America.

Random stranger so you are thinking that stealing a box of cigars and shoving somebody is a good excuse to execute an 18 year old? I should say execute through overkill since he shot the victim several times with two fatal shots.

From what we know, Republicans don't think executing an 18 year old for stealing a box of cigars and shoving somebody is a good excuse. Republicans say they need no excuse for shooting anything. As they say * Their god and the US Constitution gave them permission to use their guns any time they wish. *; let freedom ring

Do your research people. Republicans are full of rage and hate.

Sara I believe that you are right! Also have you noticed that Cool Breeze is still talking about the officer's ALLEGED boo boo as the excuse for executing an 18 year old?

The Republicans again insist they are the Party of Peace. But they just cannot sidestep their own 2 week old hateful and shaking in their boots rhetoric.

* The "world is on fire" because we have a weak, tin horn wannabe dictator masquerading as president who's only talent appears to be campaigning and fund raising. Our allies are disgusted with him, and our enemies laugh at him. Take a look back in history to see what happens to "the world" when America has a spineless, do-nothing, loser as president. You should see a parallel.....if you aren't a partisan hack.*

Do your own research. It shouldn't be hard to listen what the Republicans say one week and the next do a quick head-spin turn to keep the fear factor high. If you want the hate, rage and misinformation Party, the Republican will accept your money. Want sane and educated then vote Democrat.

Alleged boo boo, Cool Breeze. We just have seen no evidence of that injury because the police officer is being protected by the city of Ferguson. You are just repeating the officer's friends story as fact.

While this kind of boo boo, if it had occurred, could endanger an eye a frequent remedy is to put some ice on it to reduce swelling, take an aspirin and call the doctor in the morning.

The Republicans are blatantly blaming the President of the US because their little patch of dirt got wet. Poor boys can't play ball in the rain?

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/29402267-573/sources-cubs-cut-grounds-crews-hours...

Do the research and own up to your decisions in the voting booth. Vote for the sane and educated Democrat Party.

To the topic of warmongering it appears that Lindsey Graham, John McCain, and Paul Ryan have found a common voice on the week-end's talk shows. They want to go to war. They SAY that they want to balance the budget but they can just taste the thrill of boots on the ground in yet another foreign country.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/24/politics/republicans-urge-airstrikes-in-syria/inde...

A 2016 Republican Presidential Candidate front runner gets indicted and mugshots taken of the accused.

What does the accused Rick Perry do; he get a t-shirt with his mugshot printed on them. And Republicans all around laugh it up with the Texas Governor. Meanwhile an unarmed jaywalker gets 6 bullets and Republicans all around vilify the victim.

Do your own research people. The Democrats are the sane and educated Party.

Speaking in second person, I have to say that you are very funny Moral majority.

Audi is speaking in third person and so ANYBODY ELSE that speaks in third person MUST be the same person. As a matter of fact Audi must really be Stephen King because because he often writes in third person.

If that is the case then there are just three people in the world. The one person that speaks in first person, the one person that speaks in second person, and the one person that speaks in third person.

What you and random stranger are REALLY trying to do is deflect from the valid points made by denigrating the messenger by:

1. claiming that multiple people are girls because in your paranoid world of Tea Party values you think it must be really bad to be a girl

2. claiming that multiple people are the same person.

So .... do the two of you have legitimate points to make or are you just going to keep engaging in childish fantasies about the people trying to have an intelligent discussion?

Republican superstar Congressman, House Budget Committee Chairman and a 2016 Republican Presidential candidate front runner talked about a suicide mission. This wasn't some Army movie the Congressman was talking about in his newly published book. He was talking about the recent government shutdown. A shutdown Republicans cheered on so they could get 15 days of paid-for vacation time.

But how could this well known congressman even think of saying the government shutdown was a plan hatched and executed so masterfully by the Republican Party; we remember the Republicans insisting it was the Democrats that shutdown the government. It must be really difficult keeping up with all the misinformation the Republicans spread like fertilizer on a sterile field.

Here is a little sample from Congressman Paul Ryan's book;

* "In short, the strategy our colleagues have been promoting was flawed from beginning to end. It was a suicide mission, but a lot of members were more afraid of what would happen if they didn't jump off the cliff." *

Do your own research. Try to explain how the Republicans "didn't but did" shutdown the US Government. Only someone as crazy as Sybil could claims such a impossible feat. Come on over to the sane and educated Democrat Party.

This is from Mother Jones. It is a tongue in cheek article about just how dangerous it sometimes is to be black in America. I think it should give us all a good perspective of the race problem in America. Isn't it about time that we fixed this, starting with the abuses of the police?

"Here are 21 examples from the last five years of some of the things black people can't do without others thinking they're up to no good.

1. Listen to loud music at a gas station.

2. Walk home from a snack run to 7-11.

3. Wear a hoodie.

4. Drive after swimming.

5. Drive in a car with a white girl.

6. Appear in public in New York City.

7. Walk on the wrong side of the street.

8. Wait for a school bus to take you to your high school basketball game.

9. Drink iced tea in a parking lot.

10. Seek help after a car accident.

11. Inspect your own property.

12. Show up at your job.

13. Talk trash after an NFL game.

14. Throw a temper tantrum in kindergarten.

15. Buy designer accessories at Barney's.

16. Buy designer accessories at Macy's.

17. Be a 13-year-old boy.

18. Enter your own home.

19. Botch a science experiment.

20. Be a tourist.

21. Lay face down in handcuffs."

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/02/21-things-you-cant-do-while-black

Republicans are at it again. It's possible the religious right and the whole Republican asylum have finally step outside the lines of reality; here is their newest blathering;

* Opposing same-sex marriage is itself a "sexual orientation" and therefore a law prohibiting discrimination based on sexual orientation is actually discriminatory against the sexual orientation of marriage equality opponents. *

Do your own research. The sane and educated Democrat Party will continue to guide this country on a path of success.

Also, I've tried the political forum and don't like it. -- Posted by random stranger on Sat, Aug 16, 2014, at 5:27 PM

Who is proving what? well....hmmm.

I agree with the comments about Paul Ryan. He is trying to be the front runner but it is hard for just one sleezeball to compete with so many other front runner sleezeballs from the Republican Party.

What will cost $350k and accomplish nothing? If you guessed a Republican sponsored circus you'd be close. Just know this grand event planned by your favorite fiscal conservatives will be paid for by the taxpayers.

In the olden days; way back in 2013 and right up to July 2014, the Republicans;

Screamed $17 trillion debt and anything that moved.

Held hands in protest with signs * Obama's Employer Mandate is Bad for the USA *

Slap bumper stickers on their "Rollin Coal Hot Smoking Trucks" that said Impeach Obama.

Fast forward to modern days and the Republicans;

Are suing the President of the USA for delaying the mandate in their * Obama's Employer Mandate is Bad for the USA * plans just like they wanted. Weird or just insane?

Screaming * $17 trillion debt * only when they think the media is looking. Does Manufactured Outrage make any noise if the Press isn't listening?

Don't want to, but really do want to Impeach anything Democrat. Maybe the Republican Head of Education, Dr Seuss will write a picture book explaining the Impeachment concept for all conservatives to learn in their special way.

Do your own research people. The Republicans policies for this nation are incoherent and apparently hatched by a leadership with dementia. The Democrats offer a sane and educated plan. Let freedom ring

OMG; IRS e-mails from 2011 and earlier may exist. Possible proof Obama is a Muslim; Possible proof Obama's birth certificate was forged; Benghazi video of Obama inciting Libyans to riot.

Do your own research to find out what is important. If e-mails from 2011 get you all so excited and giddy, the Republican Party needs you and your money. If the continued success of the US is important, support the sane and educated Democrat Party. Let freedom ring

I'll bet the right wing pretend to be the news web sites do think that the e-mails from 2011 and before reveal that Obama is really a Muslim, and was not really born in Hawaii.

I'm tired of the Republicans wasting our tax dollars on these constant requests for tens of thousands of e-mails and their seemingly never-ending investigations. Our forefathers would be turning over in their graves if they knew.

Republican are now insisting ObamaCare is causing a spike in unemployment. We know facts, math and graphs confuse the Republicans. Where is Dr Seuss when the conservative need them? Or maybe the misinformation train has stopped in Mountain Home to pick up a few more patients for their asylum. FEMA Camps anyone?

Do your research people. The Republicans are either feigning dumbness or they can't be fixed. The best plan is to support the Democrats so the USA can continue down the path of success. Let freedom ring.

Are the Republicans really trying to redefine the meaning of "unarmed"? The Party that keeps a copy of the 2nd Amendment and only the 2nd Amendment and Dr Seuss books in their Republican Party headquarters wants a redefintion? Do you think they want to change it to the * right to bare arms *, Putin style.

I'm sure that Sara is scared to death about your threats. Not!

I don't know what you guys were thinking, but I was thinking common sense :)

Come on now Brenda.

Breeze,

I'd be willing to bet the business is federally funded. Probably out of the home though. I haven't noticed any range cows being milked near any store fronts in town.

Less than 6 months ago the local Republican Asylum was giving us advice not publish the name of our business because the conservatives would never use our services and we would be ruined.

Now the Republicans are telling us to publish the name of the business. Head spinning advice coming from the self-proclaimed Business Expert Party. We just wish you boys would find a story and stick with it. Republicans appear to change their minds more often than their undergarments. Let freedom ring especially for the odoriferous Party and that Breeze wafting our way.

Even the local Republicans Asylum, we sure, understands the value of anonymity and privacy on the internet; at least we assumed they did.

Isn't this the same Party that bills themselves as the Business Party and the Ammosexual Party and the Concealed Weapon Party and the Wants to Start a Revolution/Civil War Party and the Party That Hates All Liberals and is proud to have members that have extreme anger issues and just today said they want to know our business name so we lose business?

We are amused these same Republicans want to know if we will publish our name here. Do your own research people. The Republicans cannot form a coherent thought with all that rage and anger floating around in their ravaged old bodies and minds. Support the sane and educated Democrat Party as we continue to lead this country on the path of success. Let freedom ring

Moral majority your cut and paste is refuted twice as shown in the items below but I have to say that you still haven't learned to get your sources from reliable sources. While the sources that you use may tell you what you want to hear, they won't tell you the truth and make your comments highly unreliable.

1. Major General Harold Greene funeral - The Secretary of Defense attended.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/greene.asp

2. Michael Brown

a. He was a thug according to you but that is factually incorrect. According to USA TODAY the "St. Louis County Prosecutor's office confirmed that Brown had no prior misdemeanors or felonies against him." -- Your other comments are also wrong, no orbital injury, and the other comments are unproven. Gang colors indeed! Sometimes I wear gang colors. Everybody does.

b. Obama sending a three person delegation - Correct but according to the AP this is who went:

"Leading the group for Monday's service will be the chairman of the My Brother's Keeper Task Force, Broderick Johnson. My Brother's Keeper is an Obama initiative that aims to empower young minorities.

Also attending will be the deputy director of the White House Office of Public Engagement, Marlon Marshall, and an adviser for the office, Heather Foster.

The White House says Marshall is a St. Louis native and attended high school with Brown's mother."

"random stranger,

You are perceptive. There IS a pattern to when sara and sam post. This blog has a history of being overwhelmed with names by one individual who's been repeatedly booted off for nastiness, immaturity, and downright idiocy.

If these aren't this same person, then they are in on it with him and he's definitely back under at least one name here, probably more.

-- Posted by CoolBreeze83647 on Tue, Aug 26, 2014, at 5:59 PM"

I remember those people. Weren't they Buckshot61, Hope4America, Free Thinker, Gainfully Employed?

I think you know very well who those people are "Cool Breeze". A probable exception is gainfully employed.

The Republicans are so flummoxed with the Democrats they don't know who to call what at any one time. The Republican incoherent rants and rages against all those scary boogeymen; the sheer negativity that oozes from their pores; the hate spilling out of their souls damaging their chakra center is pitiful.

We do find some Republican actions amusing however. They seem to have a fixation on finding out anything and everything they can about us. Do Republicans live vicariously through Democrats, secretly wishing to be more like us? Or maybe more like stalkers? Why else would they want so badly to know our names or the businesses we own or work at? Boys, just drop the hate, rage and start living a simple good life and you too will find happiness.

Do your own research people. The Republicans are clearly poison for the mind, heart and soul. The sane and educated Democrat Party will gladly accept your support. Let freedom ring

The Republicans newest IRS e-mail misinformation plot got some traction in the press today. That was until people who are sane looked into the story. Yes, the whole country is laughing at the gullible Republicans. The 6 month tape back-up of all computer systems would actually work to recover data. The only problem? The Republicans trouble with math, facts, graphs and calendars. The computer broke in 2011. Dr Seuss will explain this to the Republicans much better than we can but; 2011 was actually over 30 months ago. Hope this helps.

Is there another Government Shutdown in our future? A popular Republican Senator is hinting at forcing yet another shutdown if Obama takes actions on Immigration.

Do your own research people. While local Republicans insist they deserve that extra all expense taxpayer paid 15 day vacation, we're thinking not. Close the gravy trough by voting for the sane and educated Democrat Party. Let freedom ring

I hate to be the one to break it to you Moral majority since you seem to have grabbed a whole lot of umbrage that you want to hang on to, but the quote that you took from the snopes site is the statement being put out by the right wing media which snopes then goes on to refute.

Better luck next time.

The Republican have perfected the art of Insane Manufactured Outrage. The first black President of the USA in it's 200+ year history is racist? The Sec of Defense attends a funeral with photos and videos taken no less and the Republican deny it happened.

Maybe the Republicans can get Dr Seuss to read them the news every morning; real slow and replacing the big words; so they can give the rest of the world a break from laughing at them constantly.

Do your own research people. But try to read for comprehension to discover the truth. Republican policies and actions are bad for this nation. The sane and educated Democrats Party will continue us down the road to success.

Not sure what you mean about "multiples" Moral majority but calling people a name other than their MHN in order to make fun of them, isn't that forbidden by Brenda?

Here is a picture of Major General Greene being laid to rest at Arlington. Notice the Secretary of Defense in attendance as well as others.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Secretary+of+Defense+harold+greene+funeral&tbm=i...

The Republican insane manufactured outrage shoveled and spread out for consumption by their base hit a new depth and smell today. The Republicans say * its more than a slap in the face to our Military * that Obama didn't attend a funeral;

We wonder if the family asked the President not to attend but the Republicans wouldn't accept that premise.

But the Republicans consistently call Obama; a traitor; lawless; little [commrad]; corrupt and many other pitiful titles.

We now wonder why the Republicans would want Obama at any funeral. Isn't Obama the leader of the liberals? Those same liberals the Republican insist half the nation hates? Those same liberals the Republicans want to wage a Civil War upon? Why is it the Republicans want Obama standing out in an open field when they hate him so much?

Do your own research people; The Republican head-spinning rhetoric flips 180 almost weekly and quite often daily. Their incoherent message amuses us but should greatly concern anyone supporting their cause. Let freedom ring

Regarding the customs and courtesies and saluting, I've done a little looking into that. Some of the information came from this link from snopes.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/photos/cellsalute.asp

Moral majority that the custom and courtesy of a president, who is a civilian, returning a military salute began with Reagan. It is up to an individual president on whether he will return the salute when saluted.

The link in snopes has a picture of Obama saluting while de-planing while carrying a cell phone. Before you say "shocking disrespect" you should take a look at the photograph of the George Bush returning a salute while carrying his dog as he de-planes.

If you can find a picture of any president saluting a soldier during the Medal of Honor ceremony good luck.

The Republicans are suddenly concerned about the President of the USA and his adherence to military customs and curtsies. In the same laughable rant of manufactured outrage Republicans say Obama, the President of the USA is *just a community organizer and socialist.*

Again, we ask why would you want someone you hate; as in hate so much you want to do war against her; at a funeral?

I'll "join the conversation" for two or three posts at least, since I was brought up, specifically about the funeral of Major General Greene.

First, the most important point I could make is that there shouldn't have been a funeral for Greene because he shouldn't have been killed. The efforts to rebuild Afghan society and government nation-wide are futile and cost too many American lives. And, with the Afghan surge in '09-'10, the fault is just as much on President Obama as it is on President Bush.

The U.S. mission from the beginning should've been limited to maintaining a safe perimeter around air bases from which the military could've used bombings, drones, and special forces deployed and retrieved rapidly to eliminate the leadership and infrastructure of al-Qaida and other terror groups.

And since this message board is back on one of its dull, tiresome spells of everybody speculating and second-guessing who everybody else really is and whether anybody is using two or more screen names, I'm a dude in his mid-30s, who works full-time and comments here under one screen name.

5 or 6 years ago I commented here using a different screen name, arguing with Bazooka Man, and OpinionMissy and the Kovacs. I stopped for years because it got pointless and repetitive. I grew up in Mountain Home, and live elsewhere now, and as far as I know have never met Sam or Sara or Gainfully or Audi or anybody else. I don't agree with any of them about everything, probably not even most things.

Moral majority, I'm sure that your investigations of Sara's business will be just as fact filled (ha, ha) as your investigation of Medal of Honor recipients and whether Obama should be saluting them.

I'm sure though that if you find Obama saluting any of them there will be something really terrible about that.

Moral majority, see below. Tell me again how Obama is so disrespectful not to salute? Why not just admit that you just hate Obama and therefore everything that he does or does not do.

1. Nixon awarding Medal of Honor - handshake, but no salute

http://www.criticalpast.com/video/65675034405_Richard-M-Nixon_Stanley-R-Resor_Se...

2. Johnson awarding Medal of Honor - handshake, but no salute

http://www.criticalpast.com/video/65675034429_Lyndon-B-Johnson_Drew-D-Dix_Staff-...

After many e-mails, phone calls and drop-by's, we are a little concerned. We are concerned there is a possible way creepy Republican stalker in our midst. Consider the following;

# Brags he has extreme anger issues.

# Let on he is afraid he wouldn't be able to control his anger around liberals.

# Hates liberals.

# Wants a new Civil War to break out.

# Implies he wants to finish us all off during the Civil War.

# Wants to know what business we own in Mountain Home.

# And we understand his post was deleted today where we implied it would be very easy for him to find out all about my business by calling the Mountain Home city offices.

Do your own research and you'll find rage and anger drips out of the Republican's pores. Creepy stalker? We're not sure but the list above is rather creepy even for Republican creepy standards don't you think?

The local Friends of Republican Stalkers meeting is held each week at the corner of E Jackson and Main. Don't forget to bring your binoculars and big boys pants. The theme this year is Stalking to Intimidate Women Business Owners.

* sara, all pomp and no substance, as usual. I notice you STILL didn't offer up the business you supposedly own here in town

-- Posted by CoolBreeze83647 on Tue, Aug 26, 2014, at 2:56 PM *

A report done recently by the Republican Party no less, confirms women are not fans of the Republicans and their more extreme branch called the Tea Party. The main finding was the Republicans have years more work to do if they want the female vote.

While the Republicans have tried to improve outreach to potential female voters, women still understand the party is stuck in their pre-suffrage past and intolerant.

* 49% percent of females polled for the report looked unfavorably upon the Republican Party *

Do your own research. As the Friends of Republican Stalkers meet this week, they might be discussing more effective ways of taking womens rights away. We understand legislation tactics isn't enough; the Republicans will do anything to make sure women remain in the kitchen and shoeless.

Sara, the Republicans are also way too concerned with woman and their reproductive and health care rights. The you tube video below is a light hearted look at that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA26yMrEvD4

Moral majority, George Will disagrees with your and the GOP's and Tea Party's position on the immigrant Children from Central America.

http://live.huffingtonpost.com/r/highlight/fox-panel-trashes-republicans-on-bord...

I see random stranger is still acting like a silly girl.

Moral majority do you care to discuss what was so funny in that article?

The State Department does provide limited services to travelers. The group making the request should have known that their religious practices would not be a factor in granting the request but that wasn't that funny.

Darned old ObamaCare seems to be working in Blue States very well. The carnage, mayhem and complete disaster the Republicans insist is ruining this country is well....hmmm.

* Pennsylvania agreed to expand Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act on Thursday, joining 26 states and the District of Columbia.

Federal regulators accepted a modified proposal from Gov. Tom Corbett (R) that will offer an estimated 500,000 low-income individuals subsidies to purchase private insurance. *

What happened to the big breaking news story. The Republicans, just a few short days ago had a smoking gun. The IRS and Obama; didn't they have a bag full of e-mails stored in some FEMA Re-education Camp, guarded by a communist, socialist army with Nazi overtones. And that army was using the millions of guns Obama pried from cold hands of Republicans at the same time he flushed the US Constitution? What happened?

Or do the Republicans just make stuff up to scare their uneducated base.

Do your own research people. The Republican misinformation strategy is meant to make you think the world is on fire. Look around and you'll find a nation of young, bright, educated and sane Democrats helping to make this country better. We have no need to scare you, spread misinformation or manufacture outrage. Just be willing to read and seek the truth. Leave the fear behind and let freedom ring

For every actor and commercial the Republican pay to say ObamaCare ruin their live, there are 500,000 people getting a chance to obtain affordable heath care insurance. Thanks Obama.

In other news; 500,000 additional citizens of the richest and greatest nation in the world gain access to affordable health care insurance and Republicans find reason to hate that fact.

Do your own research; if accessible and affordable health care insurance for the citizens of this country is bad, vote for the Republicans. If you find the idea a positive step into a better future, the sane and educated Democrat Party is for you. Leave the soul killing negativity behind and Let freedom ring

Fox News have been caught cheating on the news again. They took a few sentences from comments made by Eric Holder to give the impression that Eric Holder held a different view than what was actually stated in his full comments.

The link below has a video of what Fox showed and their comments about Holder in regards to their out of context video. It also has a link to the full transcript of what was said.

This should sound VERY familiar to Cool Breeze, as he with the help of one of his pretend news sites did the same thing with Obama's remarks. Very dishonest!

http://www.politicususa.com/2014/08/25/michael-brown-laid-rest-fox-news-edits-er...

Republicans both local and Crazy far, might be confused with the latest news out of Russia. Republicans have a strange habit of placing the Nazi moniker on all things liberal and especially on President Obama. Their simple little minds must have shorted out when Russian President Putin compared Kiev's drive to regain control of its rebellious eastern cities to the Nazi invasion of the Soviet Union in World War Two.

We wonder who the Republicans will back in this war. Their cute shirtless stud Putin or the Nazi's of Ukraine.

Do your own research. Get sane and educated with the Democrat Party. And as always, Let freedom ring.

When the Republicans run out of fresh misinformation stories they want to scare their witless base with, they recycle discredited stories other witless Republicans posted on this same webpage less than 2 months ago.

We agree these Republicans should continue to post all these misinformation stories, fake scandals and crazy conspiracy theories here. It gives the sane and educated Democrats another chance to laugh at the gullibles.

The Republicans must think more highly of a bunch of untrained ISIS terrorists than they do the full force of the US Military. The ISIS has been running around Iraq for a few months and the US Military was there for 10 years searching for WMD's. And what happens? The untrained terrorists allegedly walking into some warehouse finding WMD's just laying on the ground? What proof was presented by the crazy Republican who posted the link or even the author of the fairy tale webstory? None.

Do some or just a wee bit of your own research. You'll find the hate and rage Republicans posses deep in their souls have affected their brains. They have an addiction to fear. The need to be afraid and scared to function and spreading that addiction to their base is their main objective; we guess; as there is no other explanation for their irrational behavior. Leave your fear, rage and anger behind and Let freedom ring by supporting the Democrat Party.

I'm not surprised that you are using a site like "politicalears.com" for your information, Cool Breeze. It has been labeled as a satire web site, but it doesn't really show on its pages that it's stories are fake, so I personally think that it should be labeled instead as a crazy right wing lying web site. It has a story about the Ice Bucket Challenge that snopes and the ALS organizations have recently debunked.

Like Sara said, that story was debunked long ago.

When you say that you are all about truth, I think that you are being untruthful.

Bad news for Rick Perry, and others for trying to prevent abortions by eliminating clinics that are used for woman's health issues, include abortions. A Federal judge has struck down a portion of the law.

They are requiring abortion clinics to have hospital like facilities, with the pretense of protecting women, but really to further the war on women and women's health issues.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/29/judge-blocks-texas-abortion-law_n_57391...

The Republicans have a new tactic in their Blitz on Facts and Truths Campaign. This tactics begins with Republicans spreading huge piles of untrue stories like fertilizer on their sterile lands. When people do their own research into the issues; they discover it's all misinformation; Republicans respond with a retort of that's * "your problem", not a "Republican problem".

Do your own research people. The problem sane and educated people have is the Republicans new habit of spreading so much misinformation that research is a full time task to get to the truth. The best way to counteract Republican Misinformation Blitz Campaign of 2014 is to research and support the Party who wants what is best for the USA; the Democrat Party is the sane and educated Party; Let freedom ring.

Another popular Republican, Ben Carson and possible 2016 Presidential candidate has joined the Republican hero V. Putin in their Nazi Rhetoric comparison. We now know the Republicans think the USA and the Ukraine are very Nazi-like in their opinions.

Do your research people. If you find any truth to the claim the USA is turning into a Nazi-type country the Republican Party needs you. If you find the USA is a great nation and getting greater, join the sane and educated Democrat Party. Let freedom ring

The Democrats had a nice 3 day break for the Labor Day holiday. Thanks to organized labor and unions workers today must be treated like humans. No more sweat shops, child labor and wage and working condition negotiations were reasonable and fair; No thanks to the Republican Party who has gone on record as against the middle and working class people of this nation.

http://www.myfreedomfoundation.com * It would be hypocritical to honor the labor movement with a holiday when we spend the rest of the year working to curb its excesses *

Do your own research people; if you are a Republican and took advantage of the Labor Day holiday you should support the Democrat Party. We understand each and every Republican in Idaho was hard at work on Monday September 1st, 2014 knowing they don't support fair and good labor practices. Let Freedom ring

The Religious Right Spokeswoman and Republican hero is leading the charge. The fast and furious charge to set woman's issues back to the 1800's or further back. Republicans cheer mightily as Phyllis Schlafly proclaims * Women Can Avoid Sexual Assault By Focusing on Marriage, Not Careers *

Do your own research; especially all the women out there. The Republicans sure have some ideas of how to avoid being assaulted. Really bad ideas. Please support the sane and educated Democrat Party before the Republicans insist you quit your jobs to protect yourself. Let Freedom ring.

Moral majority your send paragraph is word for word from a quote that is popping up on right wing sites by people that are very racist.

Yes, I understand that you don't believe what you actually wrote. I also understand that you know that it is sarcasm about Black people.

If you gave black people a chance, you would find the paragraph to be truer than you think.

Yeah,

Thank you organized labor for the day off. A huge percentage of America should be thanking the milk party every day for a free existence. Thanks organized labor for the fact that nearly nothing is manufactured in USA any longer. Thanks so much. China sends you a huge thank you, as well as many other foreign countries. You have done so much to stimulate their economies. They should change the labeling on manufactured goods and packaging to read- Made In China. Thank you Organized Labor.

Republican favorite Herman Cain is mixing it up with the Democrats and anyone who will listen. Or maybe he's just mixed up when he somehow tries to explain President Obama has an ingenious plan to get himself impeached before the election to gain more votes from the Hispanic population.

Do you own research people. The Republican Party has spun out of control. The sane and educated Democrat Party should get your full support unless you really believe the likes of Herman Cain and the rest of the Misinformation Crew. Let Freedom ring.

Just last week the Republicans manufactured so much outrage over the media's overlapping coverage in Ferguson MO, we thought some would need medical care. This week the Republican are doubling down on outrage because the media went silent.

Do your research people. The Republicans are the party of rage, anger, misinformation and manufactured outrage. The Democrats are sane and educated; support them for the good of the USA. Let freedom ring

I believe that some are able to manufacture outrage as easily as reading a right wing Tea Party web site where they get their instructions on how to feel and think.

Little known shrink and political hack Dr. Lyle Rossiter has released a new book entitled "The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness" that is designed to feed the red meat hunger of Right Wing ideologues at a time when the Conservative movement is on the ropes after seven years of incompetence and corruption under George W. Bush.

Most of its claims are not so subtle reversals of the conclusions reached by four distinguished scholars that were funded by the US Government in a study to discover the roots of conservatism.

Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/250462#ixzz3CDz3F2m7

We are amused by the current whining by Republicans about the Senate Democrats stalling a vote on abortion. A Republican-led House bill most agree is unconstitutional and would be overturned eventually.

Even more amusing is the Republican gloating over Immigration Reform Executive Orders signed by Obama this weeke, oops; gloating over a poll indicating the public doesn't want Obama to use Executive Orders on the Immigration problem.

What makes this Republican manufactured outrage even more laughable is the Republican-led House is sitting on a bipartisan created and US Senate passed comprehensive Immigration bill; a bill passed well over 1 year ago. A bill generally thought of as a bill that would easily pass through the Republican-led House and become law if the Republicans stopped delaying.

Do your own research people; The Republicans are trying to lead the US down an angry path of deception, misinformation and manufactured outrage. Don't let them succeed. The sane and educated Democrat Party has the USA heading up the path to an even better future for all. Let freedom ring.

We know it's difficult for some people to do research; some find it difficult to comprehend even the simple things; and like some Republicans, research, comprehension and recall is just too much; case in point? Republicans asked recently * Now, tell me again who the "sane" party is? *

The Republican Party has shown through their words, deeds, actions and irrational behavior they walk on unstable ground.

Garbage is garbage regardless of what landfill you research.

Pale Ale, you can't reason with Cool Breeze. His mind is not logical and he doesn't deviate from whatever lies the extreme right tells him. I suspect that he didn't even read your link.

Sara, there is an interesting article about the Texas ruling and also who is behind the dishonest attempt by the far right to limit abortion by claiming that they are trying to help women. That claim doesn't pass any kind of smell test.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2014/09/abortion_r...

Republicans cannot help it on occasion; they forget about their misinformation campaign and let their true beliefs escape from the darkness of their souls. This is the darkness shining Republican bright;

** The National Republican Congressional Committee released an ad on Monday that features a thin model acting as Rep. Ann Kirkpatrick (D-Ariz.). She doesn't have a head in the attack ad against her; just a pair of legs, some high heels, and a lot of baggage. **

Do your own research people. Republican anger, rage and lack of respect for women is now a trademark of the Party. The Democrat Party is the party of respect and soulfulness. Vote with your brains, heart and soul in 2014/2016 and beyond. Let freedom ring

GUESS WHAT DAY IT WAS??? Go to Walmart in your pajamas day. Now get on with researching those landfills and analyzing the waste.

random stranger; we've heard that message you bring to this webpage before; vote them all out; they're all evil on both sides; money has ruined this country; the world is on fire; wish the old times would come back; no such thing as progress. Negative mantra is bad for your soul and mind; very similar to the Republican soul.

We don't agree. Let freedom ring

The good old fashioned Republicans; The self proclaimed rule of law party; the self proclaimed followers of the US Constitution.

And when they think of immigration enforcement they want the USA to be just like North Korea; shoot on sight.

When they think of health care they want to mimic the Pakistani health care system.

When they think of women's rights they make laws quite similar to Saudi Arabia's sharia law.

When they think of innocent until proven guilty they advocate shoot first and ask questions later.

When they think of marriage equality they think of the Ugandan death penalty for gays.

Do your own research people. The Republicans love the ultra-extreme laws of other nations. Nothing shows your support for extremism like supporting the Republican Party. Let freedom ring

Good points Sara.

Random stranger to adjust your comment to a different perspective:

"With your biased, one sided, narrow-minded view of the world and all Liberals in it; your use of the same partisan tactics that you constantly harp on Democrats for doing here on this blog; and for your astonishingly naive perspective on the effect of money in American politics, you've pretty much rendered your voice silent in the world of logic and reason."

I know that I've quit listening.

The Stalking Republicans of Mountain Home; they want "others" to reveal while they probe, investigate or encourage others to do their unsavory work while they post under their random breezy assumed names. Typical misinformation strategy that keeps their base angry and misguided. Sad.

Do your own research and if you are sickened by our comments here, don't read them. But we know Republicans just want to be associated with the sane and educated Democrat Party. One day they say we are a huge waste of their time; yet day in and day out these same Republican continue the banter with us; Love? The next day they say they are leaving forever and next thing you know, they back enjoying and learning from us. True Love of the Democrats; we think so. Let freedom ring

We are so happy to find out the Republicans new department of adult education is finally working. We know the Republicans have Dr Seuss as their adult education leader for political theology. Ted Cruz learned well during his government shutdown speech while invoking the fine Doctor.

Now the Republicans have turned to the Crayola Foreign Policy and Terrorism adult education methods. Coloring books seem like the perfect medium for Republicans to learn while complimenting Dean of Republican Adult Education - Dr Seuss. Let green eggs and ham be served with their xenophobic freedom fries. As always; let freedom ring

Breaking News

The Republicans have uncovered a really scary Obama plot to take down the USA. What is this truly horrifying news you ask? Get your packs and weapons Boys; the real reason President Obama designated the Organ Mountains and Desert Peaks area of New Mexico as protected land? To create a base for ISIS extremists to enter the country and plot attacks against the U.S.

Version 2 of the New Mexico ISIS and FEMA Camp coloring book education package will be released this weekend with all new colors of crayons no less. Revolution and Civil War planning has been postponed until the coloring books can be distributed to all patriots.

Do your own research and let freedom ring.

Of course all true Republican patriots haven't received the newest war orders.

* House GOP whip Steve Scalise said yesterday that President Obama is too busy trying to change the name of the Washington Redskins to focus on bombing ISIS. *

Let freedom ring.

The ramblings of a Republican?

* You and Sam and...well, actually just Sam and her "friends" (you being one of them) have begun to make this a big waste of time for me.

-- Posted by random stranger on Mon, Aug 25, 2014, at 5:25 PM *

The Republicans have to admit it; In just 10 days they fell deeply, madly in love with the Democrats.

Sara, I like the way that you use actual news of Republicans doing and saying stupid things for your comments. Too bad there are others on this forum that have stopped discussing politics just certain liberals who post on the forum; conjecturing on their gender, their livelihood, their marital status, and their age.

Related to actual news, although not terribly newsworthy, the House Majority Leader (Republican of course) is all hot and bothered because the U.S. Forest Service gave some advice on cooking smores in the forest. According to the article below, he is trying to generate some more manufactured umbrage now that ObamaCare is starting to be pretty popular.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/in-the-loop/wp/2014/09/04/gop-leader-mccarth...

Republican responses to issues;

Obamacare is just a distraction away from Benghazi.

Benghazi is a just a distraction away from Obamacare; in same day.

IRS is a distraction away from the economy.

The economy is a distraction away from the IRS.

$17 Trillion.

Fake birth certif* ; well err, you get the point.

Do your own research. The Republicans call anyone they feel threatened by "a woman". Except women. Republicans refer to us as luggage in public. Chattel in private and when it slip while we are on the job working with them. And never forget the Republican word for a pregnant woman is apparently "just a host". Let freedom ring.

I was glad to see that Obama is working with other world leaders in attacking the problem of Russia's aggression and ISIS. He is starting to take a stronger approach on ISIS, from neutralizing them, but to dismantling them as he has done with al Qaeda.

http://thehill.com/policy/international/216790-obama-we-must-dismantle-isis

On other news, the job growth is down this month but still much higher than the disaster in 2008. According to Reuters, this is just one month's results and there are other good indicators that the economy is still recovering.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/05/us-usa-economy-idUSKBN0H008E20140905

"I agree sam, mabye one of the other leaders will show him what it is to be a leader, instead of confused about what to do, while our statis in the world continues to drop. But consenses building is rather diffucult when the other nations no longer trust you to be an alli."

-- Posted by Moral majority on Fri, Sep 5, 2014, at 1:40 PM

I noticed that Obama was giving the speech about it and the other leaders were listening. Clearly he, along with Secretary Kerry and others have been working on problem solving together and the United States is taking the lead. You may be mistaking confusion, from careful thought, Moral majority. He is keeping boots off the ground unlike Bush who took his to two wars on a credit card.

In the Republican's mind, when a woman and a liberal calls them out for referring to us as luggage or "a host" they think calling us very bitter spinsters is a good idea? Bachelor much boys or do the women in your lives just accept they will be treated like chattel or cattle?

Do your research people. The Republican Party has proven they are misogynist. Look the word up or wait until 2017 when the Republican publish their educational coloring book package on the subject.

The Republican Party is finally discussing exactly why they don't like ObamaCare. We're not too sure it's an explanation truly sane and educated people would believe but if the Republicans believe it, it's good enough to laugh at for hours on end.

Watch the Republican on the video at http://fox13now.com/2014/08/28/state-representative-to-legislature-hospitals-can... ; and he's not kidding as far as we can determine when he says * "Sometimes access to health care can be damaging and dangerous. And it's a perspective for the Legislative body to consider is that, I've heard from National Institutes of Health and otherwise that we're killing up to a million, a million and a half people every year in our hospitals. And it's access to hospitals that's killing those people." *

The Republican really believe access to health care is dangerous and damaging and something that will kill you.

Do your own research people; just watch the video linked above. If you think having access to health care is so dangerous continue to support the Republicans. If you are looking for reasonable solutions, sane policies and a path to an even greater nation than we already live in, the Democrats are the only party to support. Let freedom ring

The Republicans are now asking their god to help us for some reason.

* Sara, sure sounds to me like your an ISIS supporter, if that is the case,God help you. *

We've been told time and again their god will destroy parts, regions and even the entire USA because of our beliefs. Why would anyone want the help of their god when their god act more like Mara.

As long as the Republicans keep bring their god into politics we'll be glad to continue this discussion for the next few weeks.

We ask you to do your own research and we will be doing our Religious Right research. Completely sure we'll find the same misinformation, scare tactic and manufactured outrage Republicans sweat out their pores except now it will involve their magic man.

The Republican Religious Right; their covert agents and activist for their god believes that the media is "suffocating the truth" about President Obama's secret Muslim faith and support for radical Islamic terrorists.

Do your research on your god and its followers people. When you and your god need to make up scary magic religious stories about the President, calling it secret, its time to make a change in your beliefs. We though your god could snap his fingers and terrorist turn into sand castles. Maybe Obama is more powerful than your deity? Let freedom ring

Republicans Dive for Cover Shaking and Squealing in Fear; again.

* Dont worry your personal information is safe, "trust me" our site is safe: Stealing Breezes line: more lies uncovered! *

Reading the article we understand why the Republicans are squealing in fear. Someone read the headlines to the Republicans, provided the link to a webpage and got the expected shaking in boots response.

Had the article contained coloring book graphics or pictographs highlighting the points of the story, the Republicans might have understood; understood no personal information was in jeopardy.

Stealing Breezes other line; the forever line; might be more effective but those lies are too well documented to use again; even in a Republican reality. Let freedom ring

Moral majority when you say:

"Do you know how many troops are already in Syria, its not zero. And no I can not give you any proof of what I say, as its classified, and the public is not supposed to know yet."

Either you or full of it, or you are an untrustworthy American who probably knows untrustworthy Americans who don't know when to keep their mouths shut. My guess is that you are full of it.

So much for OpSec.

The always helpful Republican Party Supporters; So helpful in the area south of Tucson AZ; the heavily armed Republican Militia caught and detained some really dangerous villains; these villains were wildlife biologist and scientists involve in research; neither local sheriff nor Border Patrol want these Republicans running around playing army man. Ted Nugent explodes in rant and rage claiming tyranny.

Do your own research people. The Republicans do not have the best interest of this nation in their hearts, minds or policies. Support the Democrat Party. Let freedom ring

I'm sorry to say that Congress isn't expected to get anything done before the election despite the need to act on various things. This is according to "The Atlantic".

"It is no great surprise that Congress will avoid most of the big issues, fail to finish work on bills that need final action, keep up its scandal focus, and be in Washington as little as possible. Congressional Republicans can almost taste a big victory in November, including taking a majority in the Senate and solidifying their majority in the House. Midterm elections are focused on the president and the president's party; the worse he is doing, the better for the party out of the White House. So for Republicans, scandal mongering, blasting presidential fecklessness, and minimizing signing ceremonies where the president can declare victory are far more potent than accomplishing legislative goals or moving to solve big problems. Meantime, for Senate Democrats, with a lot of incumbents up in tight races, votes on controversial issues are radioactive."

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/09/congress-returns-to-doing-no...

The celebration begins; It's looking like a man with zero foreign policy experience but has experience in losing big; a man who toured the world only to be laughed at by foreign leaders and the foreign press; a man who gave up on 47 out 100 US Citizens; a man good at transferring jobs from this country to others; The Man Republicans Need to Run for President in 2016.

We'll back that idea. Hillary and Warren 2016

I think it will be either Hillary Clinton or Elizabeth Warren, Sara, but not both. I think it will be John Kerry for VP.

I'm hoping that the Republican strategy that Audi described, fails. The key thing, IMO, is to get out the vote this year and treat it as a Presidential election.

The Republicans, not all of them, but a lot of them, are doing too many dishonest, and under-handed things. They think that the American public is stupid, and unfortunately many voters are unaware of the issues and vote based on what they've been scared or angered into. Fox is great at revving up the hand-picked Republican umbrage.

I appreciate your providing that quote from The Atlantic, though Audi. I suspect that it is correct in describing the situation, but like I said, I hope that strategy backfires.

This video is for the "real Americans".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UtWYa8HaFU

Those Republican Religious Right Freedom Fighters in the USA; Seems those godly creatures from the Republican Party want, need and insist you stand when they want to talk to their deity in public meetings. You will have the freedom to stay to view their government meetings as long as you give homage to their god and if not you get an escort out of the open public meeting.

Do your own research people. Religion, your gods and Republican politics do not and cannot mix. Pesky old historic documents may give you some guidance if you care to read them. The sane and educated Democrats will keep the USA on a path of goodness and success we started back in 2009.

Politifact is one of my favorite web sites. Every once in a while I like to browse through the latest things that they've investigated. Some claims turn out to be true from either party.

Then we have the idiots with zero credibility, Ted Cruz who is now claiming without any facts to support hims that ISIS is crucifying Christians. ISIS is already really bad Ted. Let's stick to the things that they have really been shown to do like mass public executions, and the beheading of American journalists.

http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2014/sep/05/ted-cruz/ted-cruz-says-is...

Moral majority, I think that if you read the politifact article you will see what is wrong with your posts regarding "proof" of Crucifixions and whether Christians are targeted for this.

The Republicans blame it on the scary foreigners; without any proof; without any mention in articles; without any science to back up their insane claims; the Republicans spread fear, anger and rage with their hysterical high pitched squeals. Hide under the bed; cover your eyes boys; get the womenfolk upfront with aprons ironed; the Republicans will make their stand under the duvet.

Please do just some research people; The Republicans are so scared of their shadows they blame foreigners for a virus even the expert don't know or understand. Should we expect the emergency publishing of the * Defeating the Criminal illegals Virus * coloring book this week.

With all due respect, the Republicans aren't even trying to present factual information any more; they're making up stuff and outright lying. Let freedom ring, but ring softly as the Republicans are a little freaked out and quaking under the covers.

Well we always knew that Cool Breeze could cut and paste an editorial but it comes a surprise to me that it is a reputable source and he gave credit to the writer.

But the opinion in the editorial doesn't seem to be too significant because Congress's own approval rating is 14% according to a recent Gallup poll. Much, much lower than Obama's approval rating. Yes, it would be nice if Obama could save some of the Democratic incumbents but I think that Congressional incumbents themselves have taken Congressional incumbents out of the reach of being saved, whether Democrat or Republican.

Of more interest to me is Ted Cruz's latest stupid idea. He wants to strip American's of their citizenship if they are "becoming a member of, fighting for, or providing "material assistance" to a "designated foreign terrorist organization" that the citizen has reason to believe will terrorize the United States." --- McCarthyism here we come again! What a doofus!

http://time.com/3303531/senator-ted-cruz-american-terrorists-citizenship-bill/

I have to agree with you, Sam. that the tea party dunce of the year has to be Ted Cruz. Amazingly enough our own tea party lady is now claiming not to be a Republican. I am trying to figure out who is following who. Is "CB" following random stranger or is it the other way around?

Maybe they should have some tea and figure that out

I was disappointed that Obama is not taking executive action on immigration but understand that it is about the mid terms on the longer term gain.

Geordey, that was an interesting insight on the ladies who haven't figured out what they think but will check with each other and now they have a dream together, an impossible dream, so to speak.

Speaking of dreams, do you remember the nightmare of the eight years of Bush? My son's future father-in-law says that Bush wasn't the worst president but he was the stupidest president. I thought that you would enjoy this you tube video about Bush's last days as president.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=026FoR-zsH4

One of the Republican Religious Right's highly touted pastors is scared; squealing scared; and like the rest of the Republican Party dripping their deity stuff into places it shouldn't go;

This squeaking Republican Religious Right pastor had a vision a professional football player who is gay will pave the way for gay child marriage.

Do your own research people. The Republicans are scared; scared you will open a book and find out they have been spreading misinformation so deep they cannot see over the piles. Support the sane and educated Democrat Party. Let freedom ring.

I keep hoping that Congress will step up to the plate on some things, for example ISIS since Congress is supposed to okay going to war but alas that isn't looking good.

Basically the Republicans are demanding a strategy from Obama that they can boo and jeer about. They won't suggest a strategy that they can get behind themselves.

http://thehill.com/homenews/news/217052-9-11-commission-rips-congress-on-isis

Republicans single handedly have solved this nations manufacturing slowdown; their manufactured outrage campaign is keeping thousands of jobs anchored in this country. The jobs? Joke Manufacturing and Comedian Enhancement Promotions.

When the Republican rapid drip highly potent manufacture outrage on their base over the illegalities of the possible Obama Immigration Executive Orders, their base explodes in abject rage; comedians prosper.

Just two short days later when Republicans scream, squeal and pout over the fact Obama might delay Immigration Executive Orders, their base explodes in abject rage; jokes manufacturing worldwide increases dramatically.

Do your own research people. The Republicans aren't just confused old men running around promoting hate and rage against other humans; they are highly forgetful confused old men running around promoting hate and rage against other humans. Their manufactured hate and rage might not increase the number of jobs in the USA after all; you decide. Let freedom ring

Amusing; the Republicans claimed their IRS scandal was just an Obama ploy to distract from Benghazi that was used to distract from Fast and Furious, that was used to distract from voter fraud, that was used to distract from Benghazi.

All these Republican manufactured scandals; and zero evidence of wrongdoing. We see a trend here; Republicans make baseless claims; claims discredited; Republicans regurgitate claims; claims still discredited. Let freedom ring

PLEASE discuss the politics and the issues and NOT each other.

Republican Expert Analysis;

# 2008 McCain/Palin will win in a landslide.

# 2012 Romney will win in a landslide.

# 2014 Republicans will gain a majority in the Senate.

Do your own research people; The Republican are wrong 2 out of 3 times; or maybe 3 out 3; the only progressive part of the Republican platform is *looking forward to the next election they say they will win*. Let freedom ring

I found your quote to be deceptive because you left out the rest of the article which follows the quote, Cool Breeze. The article concludes with this.

"Rothenberg's bullish analysis puts him at odds with others in the polling community, including Larry Sabato and Charlie Cook, who have suggested that while the GOP will make gains in the Senate, it won't be the wave election the party had hoped for. Still, Sabato, Cook and Nate Silver of FiveThirtyEight have all given the GOP the edge to win control of the Senate in 2014."

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/09/stu-rothenberg-2014-gop-wave-110751.html#i...

There is a possibility that the Republicans will win control of the Senate, but they they are only given an edge and we have two months for the "stupid party" to once again and possibly lots of times again to say something really stupid and lose any gains they have made.

I knew that if I started saying some of the same things that Cool Breeze, particularly random stranger, and moral majority have been saying for over a week Brenda would finally ask for it to stop.

This is from an editorial from "The Hill" about the Tea Party people hating America. It is a good editorial and concludes with this comment, however, I'd recommend reading the whole thing because it makes some very good points.

"They love "America," an idealized version of our country that, while existing only in their minds, has become an albatross around the neck of every other rational and clear-thinking U.S. citizen and these past few weeks, the rest of the world as well.

So let us, the remainder of the nation, both Democrat and Republican alike, finally acknowledge the elephant in the room. The Tea Party hates America and almost everything it stands for. You can tell by how they are doing everything they can to bring it all crashing down."

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/politics/328951-the-tea-party-hates-ameri...

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I agree with Brenda. Lets discuss the WECRD or the MHSD. I'd like to see what folks on this site have to say.

The Republican Religious Right continues to amuse us with their supposed almighty yet strangely highly vindictive gods; What kind of deity would project such anger and rage by making their followers and preachers say ** that Barack Obama's presidency is God's judgment upon this nation, and that everyone who voted for him must fall on their knees and beg for God's forgiveness ** That would be the Republican Religious Right god.

Please do your own research people. The Republicans want to scare you with talk of mass destruction and damage by their deities and gods. You're smarter than that and stable enough not to fall for that kind of message. Support the sane and educated Democrat Party. Let freedom ring

Well, I'm not Sara but I can do a simple search random stranger. You might try that sometime. It looks like it is Alex McFarland a person that invites speakers like Ben Carson to his right wing conferences that he hosts.

Cool Breeze, as usual when I see something grammatically correct in your posts I do a search on the words that you use. When you said:

"The Hill is a liberal on-line newspaper that is published weekly during Congressional sessions. It has routinely pointed statistical analyses of political issues left and its editor is an acknowledged liberal who has tried to present himself as middle of the road" you were plagiarizing from web sites that are repeating those words by apparently extreme right wing people commenting on sites. I found them on several sites, such as answers.com and they came from anonymous posters. I am not sure of their original source because like you they don't like to give credit to who really wrote the words.

Ironically Conservapedia which is the conservative answer to wikipedia says this about "The Hill".

"The Hill is a conservative newspaper and website founded in 1994. They are located in Washington D.C. and are a subsidiary of News Communications. At one time they were a weekly publication but have since expanded to a daily format while lawmakers are in session. News for and about Congress with a special focus on business and lobbying, political campaigns and the goings on in the Washington, D.C. beltway. The Hill has the largest circulation of any Capitol Hill periodical."

The ISIS and the Republican Religious Right; similar in so many ways; philosophy on gods; how to treat non-believers; much the same.

* I'm just saying, either convert them, or kill them. One or the other. *

Just sit back; relax the soul; take deep, cleansing breaths and do your own research people. The Republicans; the Religious Right; ISIS could have dribbled those words out of their mouths. The person who actually said those words was a member of which ultra-extremist hate and rage group? Phil Robertson of Duck Dynasty.

The Republican Religious Right; the all new American ISIS; except hiding behind the cloak of King James; Let freedom ring.

Cutting and pasting newsmax, is not research, it is just regurgitating what the Tea Party wants you to hear.

This is what rationalwiki said about newsmax. BTW, I don't care that you discount rationalwiki. Others on the blog may be interested in seeing what kind of trash is being posted.

"is a conservative Republican-oriented global news portal, whose website, Newsmax.com, has more than 13 million readers a month.[1] It is run by wingnut hack and conspiracy theorist[2] Christopher Ruddy.

Newsmax principally lives on the Internet on news site sidebars. Its website is dominated by shock news,[3] moral outrage,[4] conspiracies,[5] and trashy advertising for dubious "get rich quick" schemes, quack medicines/workout programmes, and publications that feature ads for similar products.[6] Some of this is regurgitated monthly in print form, though is seldom seen at news stands.

Newsmax is popular with the type of people who read WorldNetDaily; both outlets feature similar world views of a idealised conservative God-fearing America besieged by godless libruls, filthy sodomites, evil terrorists, and diseased illegal aliens. However, they managed to even out-wingnut WND when one of their contributors called on the military to overthrow Obama in a coup,[7] saying that it would "restore and defend the Constitution." Yes, removing a President elected by the largest margin in decades and replacing him with a junta would restore the Constitution.

Distinguished contributors to Newsmax include David Limbaugh (brother of Rush), Michael Reagan (the adopted son of Saint Ronnie), "Doctor" Laura Schlessinger, and (quack) Doctor Russell Blaylock.

They'll also spend some time now and again giving airtime to bunk medicine, like chelation therapy.[8]

They conducted an interview with Pat Buchanan about a book he wrote complaining that America has become less white and less Christian, the interviewer taking him very seriously.[9]"

The below comment from me was addressed to Cool Breeze and the newsmax fantasy that he posted.

Apparently Fox "News" takes Robertson seriously but the logical minded Americans can only laugh at Fox News, Duck Dynasty, newsmax, and WND.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2014/09/03/duck-dynastys-phil-robertson-im-...

Now those Republicans are really mad; they are so mad they tell liberal they don't read, listen or pay any attention to the sane and educated Democrats; except every day; and sometimes the Republicans taunt liberals for answers and research they ask liberal to do for them.

Do your own research people. The Republican sweat anger, fear and today, they sweat insanity out of every pore in their old bodies. You know the Democrats are the sane and educated people in this great nation. Read, listen and learn and you'll come over to us because it's the correct and good thing to do.

And the "stupid party" strikes again losing still more voters for the GOP. Although not a national candidate this Georgia candidate is pretty representative of some attitudes prevalent in the more radically conservative, Tea Party, branch of the Republican party.

He thinks early voting of Black people to bring out the vote is dumb saying that he prefers later, "more educated" voters. He tried to back track on that statement but still he is the same guy that tried to make the confederate flag the Georgia state flag.

Moderate Republicans I'm sure see that this kind of thinking is wrong and doesn't fit today's times.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/10/fran-millar-georgia-_n_5797010.html?utm...

random stranger, I noticed that you asked a question and APPEARED to be hoping to get an answer. Here is some advice instead.

"If You Want to Gather Honey, Don't Kick Over the Beehive" -- Dale Carnegie, How to Win Friends and Influence People

My translation: Better not to call people names if you want them to answer your questions.

On the topic of politics, I turn again to the "The Atlantic". It had a frank discussion of the Middle East and Obama and areas where he has struggled. It mentioned these things that Obama has done very well, some things that I had not considered.

"Here are two things that are also true: Obama has become the greatest terrorist hunter in the history of the presidency; and his successful push to disarm the Assad regime of the bulk of its chemical-weapons stockpiles has removed from the Middle East, and beyond, the possibility of an unparalleled cataclysm."

"The Atlantic" provides an honest appraisal of why Obama doesn't get credit from this by either Republicans or Democrats. A very interesting article.

For those that want to read the entire article, I'm providing the link.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/09/obamas-most-important-a...

Good article Audi. These are not easy times for foreign policy and nobody knows whether they are worse now because we went into two wars in the Middle East. It is a good point that the world is safer because of some of the things the current administration has done.

I myself have been reading about how Republican's became the stupid party. The obvious answer is that they called themselves that at various time after the 2012 election. The Louisiana governor, Bobby Jindahl, a Republican said that the Republicans had to "stop being the stupid party" and they need to "stop insulting the intelligence of voters."

A more longer term definition originated in Great Britain when the Conservative party ignored facts and refused to notice that change had occurred.

I'm in favor of the Tea Party Republicans staying stupid so I'm offering a little help in the link below. For moderate Republicans, I like them and am related to many.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnUfPQVOqpw&index=10&list=PL11EEC11AA1A86330

Yes it must have been Bush that successfully had Bin Laden killed.

Did anyone watch the address on what Obama is doing about ISIS? I was glad to hear that he has support from other countries.

That Republican Religious Right 2016 hottest new Presidential candidate? Oh, he's the candidate the Republicans need in 2016. He's also the candidate the Democrats would like to see running against Hillary.

Why wouldn't the Democrats want to see Ben Carson as the Republican Presidential candidate in 2016; when that man can deny all the science and research that has been done;

* Evolution Is An Absurd Myth *

Do your own research people. Vote for Ben Carson if you are a Republican. Or vote for the sane and educated Democrat Party. Let freedom ring

The idea of Ben Carson for President is pretty scary, except that I'm not scared because the Tea Party won't like him, not really, because he will be guilty of running for president while Black.

He doesn't stand a chance. Realclearpolitics.com ranks the Republican hopefuls in this order. Walker is the only one, so far, that I don't know much about. The rest leave a bad taste in my mouth. It is looking pretty bleak for the Republicans.

Christie

Bush

Paul

Ryan

Cruz

Perry

Rubio

Walker

Santorum

Jindal

And the new Republican ISIS Party and the Religious Right have teamed up; the rallying cry for and to the troops?

* there is no place in the United States military for those who do not believe in the Creator *

They go on to say rights guaranteed in the US Constitution where given to us by their deity.

We wonder if that is the same deity that wants to destroy the USA to teach us a lesson.

Do your own research people. The Republican Party wants to turn the USA into some old male dominated religious State. The sane and educated Democrat Party is here to prevent this but only if you give up the crazy. Let freedom ring

Are we to understand, as liberals, the world is burning, the sky is falling, the apocalypse is near, there are not enough guns in schools and unsubstantiated claims of voter fraud is the laser-eye focus of the Republican Party; Scared much?

When the old Republican Party heads to their little deity's space in the sky and the New Republican ISIS Party is outed as the Party of fear, rage, and anger, then you can be considered disenfranchised; until then, the Misinformation Party will do; don't you think. Let freedom ring

Sara,

Why do you not respect the fact that today is 9/11, and save your babble for a different day?

I think that Paul Ryan is hoping to be identified as top contender for the title of Stupid Republican Candidate for President.

First he said that he would run with Mitt again and in fact would drive his campaign car if Mitt asked him to. What hero worship!

The other thing is that in an interview he has told people his plan for how the Senate will operate if the Republican's had control of the Senate. Wait a minute, Ryan isn't a Senator!

http://www.salon.com/2014/09/05/move_over_mitch_paul_ryan_lets_slip_secrets_of_h...

This was an interesting article about what was written about before 09/11. It was interesting because it was a turning point in our history. I think the first time that we were attacked since the War of 1812. It changed us as did the War of 1812. We realized then that a militia army wasn't going to do it and we needed a trained armed forces. We learned some different things from 09/11 and we will continue to learn things from other events.

It wasn't the biggest event in our history but it is a big event in our recent history until we have another big event.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/09/11/what-we-wrote-about-ri...

Bright ideas from the Republican Party; the party that bills themselves as the Business Party has discovered a brilliant new way to lower national debt; while untested the idea is similar to extracting blood from a turnip; the Republicans think it could still be a great thing for this nation.

The Republicans idea? Assess a $5000 civil penalty on all undocumented immigrants to reduce the national debt. Seem legit until one actually thinks about this brilliant financial scheme with a sane and educated brain; the education Republicans haven't and will not accept; the fact most undocumented immigrants are near penniless, fleeing violence and are just hoping for a better life; the fact these people don't have $5000 doesn't matter to Republicans. But if the Republicans just continue squealing * 7 Trillion * they're sure the idea will work.

Do your own research people. Republicans will tell you they are financial experts. They will tell you pretty much anything that will anger you, make you mad, get you enraged; the Party of misinformation wants you to stay misinformed. Come over to the sane and educated Democrat Party so we can continue down the path of greatness this country in currently walking.

No, random stranger I didn't forget Pearl Harbor.

I was talking about the first major attack on American soil, and the most recent major attack. Try reading it again and pondering when Pearl Harbor's attack took place in our history.

This is an article from the Washington Post on Bill Maher, and his plan to put his money and resources into "flipping a district". His audience has been voting on the worst "safe" Republican congressman or congresswoman. These are people that are bad for the country yet they keep getting re-elected because are in a "safe for Republicans" district.

The "lucky" Republican winner, picked to have his district flipped will be chosen soon.

Bill Maher isn't everyone's cup of TEA, but he at least puts his money and resources behind what he believes.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/bill-maher-is-smug-outspoken-and-j...

random stranger, I'm not going to quibble with you. Play with someone else.

For those interested in the news, Cruz still hasn't apparently come up with that bill that he was presenting before Congress on Monday regarding taking away citizenship. Also, what happened to Boehner's law suit? Did he get a little sun on vacation and start to mellow out?

It seems like some Republicans are stopping just about everything they are doing. Most importantly, I'm still not seeing a Congressional approval to fight ISIS.

Stranger,

Sam will never get that. I've said it on here before. As sad as it is, it's the truth. Sam doesn't want the truth. She is just interested in drama.

As someone that frequently relies on the various fact checking web sites such as snopes, I found this article extremely interesting. Some main points that I got from it were.

1. fact checking is a deterrent to at least some extent for politicians that lie - politicians don't want to be called out for lying.

2. unfortunately, once the lie has been said and it is believed, it is hard to get someone to un-believe the lie.

Still the article overall had good news for those of us who want to stick with the truth.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/09/inquiring-minds-brendan-nyhan-fact-c...

That was an interesting link Moral majority and it made a good point. I recommend that you read the article.

In Congress you are not required to live in your state or the district that elected you but in the California legislature you are expected to do so. It is not enough to own a home in the legislative district but you have to live there. Still this small time state Senator shouldn't have done his small time crime from which he will get 90 days in jail.

Something more relevant if you wanted to imply that the wrong doing of anyone reflects on their party, then you may want to look at a bigger fish. Maybe something with more national headlines.

McDonnell is a Republican but I am not suggesting that all Republicans are crooks.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/mcdonnell-jury-in-third-da...

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/jury-virginia-gov-bob-mcdonnell-guilty-corruption...

Sam,

The "truth" that you fail to accept is that ALL politicians lie. Regardless of party affiliation.

Fact finding means nothing. Your facts are all configured lies intended to mislead.

The always armed and godly Republican Religious Right; Pat Robertson, the to go to preacher of conservative deities understands the Republican way to forgiveness, blessedness and life.

* Blessed are the fully armed because theirs is the kingdom of heaven. *

Do your own research people. The Republicans support and preach an angry, violent way of life. If that's the kind of future you want, vote Republican; The sane, educated and peaceful Democrats may be more soulful and better for you and your family. Let freedom ring

The always brave Republican Party, except; except when they are on tv; making sure their scary old supporters remain scared; squealing to the masses of the end of times.

* if they survive our best shot, this is the last best chance, to knock him out, then they will open the gates of hell to spill out on the world. This is not a Sunni versus Sunni problem, this is ISIL versus mankind. *

Do your own research people; the Republican fear machine will be running on high until election day. You can support the scared old Republican Party; you can support the sane and educated Democrat Party; Let freedom ring.

The Republican Party?; the Party who falsely and laughably wants to be known as the Freedom and Rights Party?

Don't be mislead; the Republicans don't want people to be free nor do they want people to have any rights unless; unless the people happen to be their old, rich, conservative, gun toting, deity proselytizing supporters.

Do your own research people; this country was built upon immigrants, many who couldn't speak english or have a penny to their name. Now the Party of anger, rage and hopelessness wants your support in their hate campaign. Support the Democrat Party as we continue to improve this great nation of ours. Let freedom ring for all.

Those Dr Seuss Republicans are at it again. They now have a name for their very own scary, made-up human-kind killing flu; The Republicans are calling this flu * The Nu Flu Open Border Blue Coup * ; an off-handed reference to the Republicans only acceptable Doctor, Dr Seuss.

Be aware old scared and squealing Republican supporters. The coloring book name used for this make believe malady will be shortened to "Open Border Flu" and might be available in stores worldwide starting in November 2014; the date all Republicans can't wait for.

Do your own research people. If you want to believe in made-up and scary and fake causes for a flu, the Republican Party is for you. Support the sane and educated Democrat Party. Let freedom ring.

Republicans, smoking guns and Benghazi; We understand why the Republicans are having so much trouble investigating the Benghazi tragedy; All the smoke from their numerous fake smoking guns clouds their vision and eye sight; We're not sure what is in those fake smoking guns but it appears to impair their cognitive skills and reasoning abilities.

Do your own research people; the Republicans know someone who knows someone who says he remembers someone who knew someone who was told the new Benghazi smoking gun will be the one to bring down the President. If you can get excited about rumors of a rumored smoking gun the Republicans are your friends. If you are looking for the truth, the sane and educated Democrat Party is the only option. Research shall set you free. Let freedom ring

Ah, the Republicans misinformation campaign. Designed to scare, enrage and dumb down the Conservative American public. It is working quite well in Idaho. As we say every time we read a new Republican misinformation story,"you can't fix stupid but you can create it".

Fortunately for us, we have another contract and will be heading for the big city; 2-4 weeks helping the completely helpless tea party businesspeople understand others.

While we are away, see if you boys can figure out how to stay inside the lines in those coloring text books. Misinform on Boys and try to keep the Civil War planning at a high level. November and election day is coming soon.

Moral majority I gather that you don't like Obamacare much although you are probably unaffected by it and the Tea Party seems to have given up on it as an issue.

Post a legitimate link and maybe someone will respond otherwise I have to say b o r I n g!

Moral majority before posting something questioning the intelligence of others you may want to check your spelling.

Moral majority read the last paragraph of the article that I assume you wanted people to read.

Boise....Democratic Latino Caucus marches on Statehouse....registers voters.....quit separating families.......it goes on and on. Is this why it's important not to close the borders........so many stories about this stuff one doesn't know what to believe anymore. But it makes sense not to reward people who break the law. What message does this send to those who gained legal access to this county? If you don't want your family separated.......get legal!! Assimilate.....learn English...Why is that so difficult to accomplish? From what I see.....because we don't have to. We have it all anyway! What wonderful "leadership" we have!

Any body take note of 60 minutes last night (9/21/2014) It was a direct indictment of Our Glorious Presidents Foreign policy in Iraq i.e. ISIS. Interesting that another network besides Fox finally getting the truth out.

It appears that the Rockefellers are divesting themselves of fossil fuels which some of the most common are oil and coal. Energy of the future has to be better for our climate and more sustainable and it appears that the smart money is on knowing that.

Those burying their heads in the sand pretending that climate change is a myth may not be interested in the article below.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/21/rockefellers-fossil-fuels-climate-chang...

Aren't you getting a little carried away with your Obama hate, Moral majority?

GUESS WHAT DAY IT IS???? It's grab your Obama straw and go to Walmart in your pajamas day!! Careful around those milk/ range cows in the parking lot.

If you need Captain Crunch, Froot Loops, donuts or soda pop, you better get there early.

Interesting conversation. Not.

And the beat goes on,

Drums keep pounding a rhythm to the brain

La de da de de, la de da de da

lol!

Copy & Paste for coolbreeze83647

Selwyn Duke is a writer, columnist and public speaker whose work has been published widely online and in print, on both the local and national levels. He has been featured on the Rush Limbaugh Show and has been a regular guest on the award-winning Michael Savage Show. His work has appeared in Pat Buchanan's magazine The American Conservative and he writes regularly for The New American and Christian Music Perspective.

We're back home after an interesting business trip catering to Republican businessmen. Without a doubt, the conservatives are the most scared group of men in this nation.

ISIS, Ebola, Gays, Gods, and Democrats have the Republicans shaking and quaking in their man sandals and surf trunks. Nothing more guns, more religion and more space under their beds won't solve.

The election is just around the corner. Can't you just feel the desperation in the air around the Republican hidey-holes. But the possibility of another Republican sponsored government shutdown around Christmastime has got to have our local civil war soldiers anticipating the sweet taste of addition government gravy bowl treats. Slurp.

Do your own research. Don't live in a world constant fear like the Republicans.

More space for the monsters under their beds?

The Republican spin machine has come up a new lie to try to downgrade Hillary Clinton's popularity as a presidential candidate.

They are now claiming that her presidency would really be an Obama third term. So the Republican National Committee (RNC) also thought of as "Rich Nincompoops Consolidated" decided to do what Moral Majority, Cool Breeze and other blog commenters are doing by in effect saying she is not a different person from Obama and is instead a "multiple".

According to "The Hill", "It is a strategy Republicans say they unveiled just in time for the midterm elections, as Clinton prepares to campaign for Democrats in tight races across the country."

It's funny that these people can't pass an immigration bill, or for that matter any important legislation but they are really fast and lose with their whoppers.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/219277-gop-casts-hillary-clinton-as-t...

The Salon article is good.

Christ was a sojourner, crossing borders while dodging Romans. If he moved up from Nicaragua on a "death train" and into the U.S., do you think we'd send him back?

Religion should not be contorted to support an economic philosophy.

When religions refer to "war", isn't that to be taken in a spiritual context? You know, kind of a "Kill 'em with kindness" approach, where you convince the other guy you are good through the evidence of your good works. Crusades? Jihad? Where does one begin to believe that God needs their help?

I think that it would depend if Jesus arrived from Europe or Canada as opposed to any country where the majority of inhabitants of browner skin than the white majority in the United States who don't want the "browning of America".

He wouldn't look like he is shown in our churches either. He probably wasn't a tall fair skinned blue eyed man. From the time period that he came from he was probably short by today's standards, and dark skinned.

Don't worry so much about how I respond to Dave's questions random stranger.

The space under the bed needs to be larger for all those Republicans needing a place to hide from the scary things out there.

# WMDs in Iraq but not found; Scary

# ISIS finding those WMDs immediately after US soldiers searched for 10 years; even scarier and happening only in a Republican mind near you.

# ISIS caught on US border; scary even if the Republicans are the only people that have confirmed that really scary, frighteningly intense rumor and happening only in a Republican mind near you..

# Ebola is gods way of punishing the US for a host of Republican Religious Right fright nite scenarios. We're all going to die scary? Even scarier and happening only in a Republican mind near you.

# Russia is ready to nuclearize the atmosphere in the USA; even scarier and happening only in a Republican mind near you.

# FEMA Re-education Camps; scary and happening only in a Republican mind near you.

# ObamaCare and communism; even scarier and happening only in a Republican mind near you.

# ObamaCare and socialism; even scarier and happening only in a Republican mind near you.

# ObamaCare and Nazi's; even scarier and happening only in a Republican mind near you.

# ObamaCare and death panels; happening only in a frightened little Republican mind near you.

# Guns, guns and more guns or all guns; Obama is coming to get your guns; but only in the frightened scared minds of the Republicans.

Do your own research boys; the Republicans are just scared people looking for someone to save them. Real leadership comes from the liberals and Democrat Party.

I agree Sara that there is a lot of fear mongering occurring with Ebola. Here are some examples from "The Economist".

"Also on October 8th, the federal government announced that passengers from West Africa would be screened for Ebola at five American airports. Many politicians are demanding more drastic measures. Dr Paul is one of several to ask why flights from Ebola-stricken African countries to America continue at all. Governor Bobby Jindal of Louisiana says planes must be grounded "to protect our people". Senator Ted Cruz of Texas contrasts Mr Obama's willingness to let airlines serve West Africa with July's "highly suspicious" decision by the Federal Aviation Authority (FAA) to halt American flights into Israel after a rocket fell near that country's main airport, just as the government was--Mr Cruz growls--pressing Israel to grant concessions to Hamas. Many candidates have urged Ebola travel bans. Few mention that most routes from Africa to America require transfers in Europe, making it hard to stop them without closing the Atlantic (see article)."

A lot of these people: Rand Paul (Dr. Paul), Ted Cruz and others don't seem to be too strong on logical thinking.

http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21623713-stoking-panic-will-not-help...

We believe any sane and rational person should have a healthy concern about any disease in this country. Ebola, HIV, cancer, and most importantly fear-mongering.

The Republicans have been drooling, sputtering and sweating fear from ever pore of their shaking little bodies over Ebola.

Do your own research boys; The fear factor can only work on the people who don't care to read, learn the facts and act rationally. Calling our President * Obola * is direct and irrefutable proof the Republicans have stepped off sane ground and over that cliff; with both feet. Let freedom ring.

Sara,

You better look up and pay attention because you fell off that cliff a long time ago.

The Republicans Fear Conspiracy Theories via Emails Lets see who these men are.

1. "Arif Alikhan" is the Deputy Executive Director for Homeland Security, Law Enforcement, and Fire/EMS at Los Angeles World Airports. He was appointed to the new position in October 2011 and is responsible for the 1,200 sworn police officers and civilian security officers that protect Los Angeles International Airport, Ontario International Airport, and Van Nuys Airport. He is also responsible for all fire and emergency medical services at LAWA's three airports.[1] Alikhan is a former Distinguished Professor of Homeland Security and Counterterrorism at the National Defense University (NDU), College of International Security Affairs in Washington, D.C. He teaches and lectures on a variety subjects involving homeland and national security issues for U.S. military and civilian security professionals.[2] and is a recognized expert on U.S. government homeland security and counter terrorism policies.

Alikhan was appointed to the Obama Administration in 2009 as Assistant Secretary for Policy Development at the United States Department of Homeland Security. He is also a former Deputy Mayor of Homeland Security and Public Safety for the City of Los Angeles, former federal prosecutor with the United States Attorneys Office in Los Angeles, and a former senior adviser to Attorneys General John Ashcroft and Alberto Gonzales while serving at the Department of Justice in Washington, D.C.

2. Mohammed Elibiary A Department of Homeland Security (DHS) adviser long engulfed in controversy over his radical views was let go from his role in the department last week after a long fight by lawmakers and others to revoke the individual's privileges at DHS.

Mohamed Elibiary was until last week a senior member of DHS' Homeland Security Advisory Council (HSAC). After years of controversy about his status at DHS, Elibiary announced his final day with the department on Twitter earlier this month and said he would remain close to the agency.

3. Rashad Hussain (born in 1978), is an American attorney, and U.S. Special Envoy to the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC), the second largest intergovernmental body after the UN, with 57 member states.[1] Hussain, a Muslim of Indian heritage, has served in the White House Counsel's Office and on the National Security Council, and in his role as Envoy, has advised the Administration on policy issues related to the Muslim world. He has traveled to numerous countries and international conferences, and has met with foreign leaders and Muslims around the world.[2] His position, "a kind of ambassador at large to Muslim countries, was created by President George W. Bush

4. Salam al-Marayati

For the past 24 years, Salam has had the opportunity to speak to congregations at community-sponsored events, temples, synagogues, churches, high schools, and college campuses. He has written extensively on Islam, human rights, democracy, Middle East politics, the Balkan Crisis, and the Transcaucus conflict.

His articles and interviews have appeared on such prominent newspapers as The Wall Street Journal, The Los Angeles Times, The Christian Science Monitor, The LA Daily News, The Chicago Tribune, The San Francisco Chronicle and USA Today. He has appeared on radio and TV talk shows, including The Dennis Miller Show, Tonight with Deborah Norville, Politically Incorrect, and has been featured on C-SPAN and NBC. Salam has also been deeply involved in interfaith activities.

Salam served as co-chair of the Interfaith Coalition to Heal Los Angeles, which formed as a result of the Los Angeles uprising in the Summer of 1992. Salam also works as an advisor to several political, civic and academic institutions seeking to understand the role of Islam and Muslims in America and throughout the world.

5. Imam Mohamed Magid naturalized citizen who immigrated to the United States from the Sudan in 1987. In 2011 President Barack Obama appointed Magid to serve in a Countering Violent Extremism Working Group with the DHS. On January 22, 2013 Magid took part in the inaugural ceremonies of President Obama but the White House has no Sharia Czar, a title given to Iman Magid by critics of the Obama Administration.

6. Eboo Patel is a member of President Barack Obama's inaugural Advisory Council on Faith-Based Neighborhood Partnerships. Wikipedia

Born: 1975, Mumbai, India

Education: University of Illinois at Urbana--Champaign, University of Oxford, Glenbard South High School

Long Haul

Changing over from Republican can be done. I was a Republican until the party changed, now their the mean party who are for themselves not the people of our Great Country. I am an Independent and vote for who listens to the people.

I watched the debates last night and pretty much made my mind up who will get my vote, and it sure won't be Butch Otter !!

Coolbreeze83647

Did you read this part taken from your ABC Link?

The Republican Party is even more unpopular. But benefitting from their supporters' greater likelihood of voting, GOP candidates nonetheless hold a 50-43 percent lead among likely voters for U.S. HOUSE seats in the Nov. 4 election.

Nothing new there the Republicans have been running the House

The average food stamp recipient get less than $150 each month to buy food. The Republicans must think food in not necessary; they vote to take away health insurance; they champion war; they say they love freedoms but hate gays; they love their guns. Yet they are terrified of a disease that has killed 1 person in this country. They are terrified of some women and children from south of the border stepping over a line. Really? And you think they can lead?

Do your own research boys and women. The Republicans act and sound like clowns. The sane and educated Democrat Party is waiting for your support.

Good old fashioned Republicans are a hoot. They are bitter and angry about everything; They are terrified of everyone that may look different.

It's becoming rare we find a conservative willing to admit they are a Republican but rather insist they are independent while voting only for the Republican and drooling out the typical Republican nonsense.

The Republicans that aren't afraid to stand proud usually cannot put forth their own ideas; they require a cut and paste or a link to a website they usually don't read completely; and the data tends to refute their entire Republican stance. We understand there aren't many fact-based article the Republican can use to justify their wrongness but they try; we love em anyway.

Do your own reach boys; the Republican thought process and idea generation is cut and paste. The sane and educated Democrat Party can and does use their brains; and no, not every politician is corrupt; just the Republican candidates. Let freedom ring

The Republican cannot be outdone when it comes to facts these days. They believe President Obama is a Muslim born in Kenya despite the facts presented to them. Now they say Islam isn't a religion despite overwhelming evidence it is.

Do your own research boys; The Republicans have fallen on the wrong side of almost every issue in the last 6 years; How can a group of people be so wrong yet have so many followers; some say it's called blind faith; we call it blindness. The sane and educated Democrat Party is waiting for your support. Let freedom ring.

Breaking news from the USA; Republicans accuse President Obama of being on Food Stamps and not paying his bills despite what is written in their posted link.

Do your own research Boys; The Republicans want you to believe their misinformation and fabrications. In the end, will the Republicans and all the people who blindly follow and believe this Republican misinformation see the light? The Democrat Party doesn't need to spread misinformation; we are the Party of Truth, Education, Sanity and Progress. Let freedom ring.

So sorry the Republicans didn't get their hunting season Government Shutdown they were hoping for. Slurping from that Hypocrisy Gravy Bowl must be tasty, right Boys?

The Republicans, Laws of the Land, US Constitution, Bill of Rights, Miranda Rights, Human Rights; there is one group above that doesn't fit.

Do your own research Boys; The Republicans cheer or encourage the killing of suspects; And the Republican Religious Right cheers even louder and more vigorously. If that is the behavior you expect from your leaders and people charged to serve and protect, you should vote Republican. If Laws of the Land, US Constitution, Bill of Rights, Miranda Rights, Human Rights and sane policies are important to you, the Democrat Party is the only choice; let freedom ring

That's an interesting choice of words. How does the Word of God "evolve"?

"A Hispanic man delivers absentee ballots, and now conservatives want him dead" * http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/10/a-hispanic-man-delivers-absentee-ballots-and-...

"GOPer Don Young doubles down: Suicide is an 'illness' lazy people get from government handouts" * http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/10/goper-don-young-doubles-down-suicide-is-an-il...

"Idaho Tall Tales: Ministers Aren't Going To Jail For Refusing To Perform Same-Sex Weddings."

* https://au.org/blogs/wall-of-separation/idaho-tall-tales-gem-state-ministers-are...

I see that nothing much has changed. Random Stranger provides a link to a short paragraph of the "Daily Caller" who provides their usual one-sided version of what the Washington Post provided.

For those desiring the real facts why not read the Washington Post article. The link is below.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/new-evidence-supports-officers-account-of...

What is happening is that testimony from the secret grand jury is being leaked when it supports Wilson's claims and other witnesses with testimony supporting Brown are not being called and if called, probably not leaked.

Random Stranger, since you seem to know so much about quilting I suspect that you may be exactly who you are calling other people. In childish words that you may understand, "What you say is what you are."

Yes, the gays can reproduce, as can uneducated, ignorant, low IQ, or other people that don't meet everyone's expectation on who should be allowed to add to the gene pool.

Do we really want to be worrying about that particular thing?

What about the elections? I'm not seeing too much discussion here on that. It sounds like some people just expect to vote the Republican Party ticket unless they can be even more conservative and vote for a Tea Party person.

It looks like Otter is having some trouble explaining his fight against gay marriage and what is this thing about the FBI having to take over an investigation of Otter's outsourcing of our prisons?

Here is some more detailed information about the Otter scandal.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/2014/10/16/3430976_emails-show-otters-staff-involv...

rs, I think it's "No matter where you go, there you are."

CB83647, First, I'm no ambulance chaser. I only asked how the Word of God "evolved."

Your ringing endorsement of Rustebakke's letter, which advocates treating Africans like cattle, and your cite of stormfront.org as a news source in your post (on Sun, Jul 6, 2014, at 7:19 AM) gives one an indication that you're not completely down with all aspects of the Christianity thing either,you evidently lack Jesus' love and compassion for the sick, but you dig the ethnocentric message.

We again set out sights on the terrified Republican Party; if the moderator will leave this post that is.

"Jody Hice: Obama Administration Turning US Into Nazi Germany"

* http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/jody-hice-obama-administration-turning-us-... *

Do you hear it? In the in a high squeaky shaky voice of the Republicans "The Nazi's are coming, the Nazi's are coming, the Nazi's are coming. Nothing scares the Republicans more than the Nazi's except FEMA Camps, Ebola, lawyers, communists, socialist, Democrats, women, quilters, shoppers in pink pajamas, high school football coaches, wolves, gays, the dark, health insurance, running out of prune juice and a liberal woman business owner.

Civil War on Boys and Let freedom rings.

Rustebakke is concerned about those people who may be a "resident of Liberia", those residents of Liberia who may lie to get into the U.S. The cases in the U.S. are suffered by U.S. citizens exposed to the virus while associating with those within the system in place to prevent the spread of the disease and end the outbreak in West Africa. Citizens of a Christian nation doing the work that Christ may have called them to do.

There are other times in history when the U.S. has taken action to protect the citizenry from disease. Ellis Island Immigrant hospital, used for about three decades, held new immigrants in isolation for further evaluation if it had been determined they were ill. The doctor may have referred to actions taken during the influenza pandemic of 1918, or used an example from the history of human health management, but he chose to dehumanize Liberians, comparing their struggle with a ruthless disease that is fatal in humans, with vaccinable animal diseases that are not transmissible to humans. The doctor must know that there is no vaccine for Ebola. He doesn't provide examples of humans protecting themselves from diseases fatal to humans. If he had, Liberians would be on a par with Americans.

Rustebakke's dehumanizing argument is warrantless.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/dandiamond/2014/10/23/america-is-beating-ebola-every...

We were told by the local Republicans we "should team up and get the word out that the GOP is full of de-humanizing racists".

No need to do that Boys; Do your own research and you'll find the Republican platform encourages racism. Need proof? Just read the posts of all the declared and undeclared Republicans on this webpage.

There is more information on the Otter lie about recusing himself from contract discussions with the company who made big contributions to his campaign.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/2014/10/24/3445486_otter-discussed-cca-contract-in...

Isn't it time for Idaho to raise the level of:

1. Honesty in government

2. Education for our students both K-12 and college

3. Minimum wage to becoming a living wage?

Otter needs to be voted out along with his Republican cronies in the legislature.

Boys, we understand now. The Republicans have their guns and that makes them less scared of all those imaginary monsters. Yes, that does shock us quite a bit and it really is scary Republicans will use a gun to scare away Ebola, woman or even health insurance.

We've done all the research we need to do. The Republicans sole source solution to their unfounded fears is "we still have our guns, and ALWAYS will" should be all the information you require to support the sane and educated Democrat Party.

Civil War on Boys and let freedom ring.

Promises made by the Republicans and promises broke by the Republicans. Promised a Nazi America and still no sign of it; Promised a Communist America and still no sign of it; Promises of prying from cold hands yet the 2nd Amendment still stands and no guns illegally removed from said cold hands?

Then there was a promised Republican shiny new American Revolution a few years ago; They said "It will be soon; very soon; they were ready for that Revolution; then it got canceled for some unknown reason.

Earlier this year the Republicans and Tea Party Patriots instead decided a Civil War was the way to wage their rage and hate. It was a promise; Is that promised Civil War now an "iffy" event? We understand "if" there is a Civil war, the Idaho Republican Brigade will be in charge of looking under rocks for women; an important mission we've been told.

Civil War on Boys and let freedom ring while you're raging.

Sara, it sounds to me like Moral majority thinks that you will be hiding under more than one rock so he will be apparently turning over a rock that you are hiding under then he will let you flee to hide under another rock.

From all of the other posts it sounds to me like Moral majority is afraid of a lot of things. Why wouldn't he also be afraid of rocks and woman? I just don't seem him doing that Sara/rock hunt.

The Republicans are on it. When it comes to Ebola, they say what we don't know could kill us and we need to freak-out and overreact right now more than ever. Maybe the idea of shooting the virus away has already be thought of by the Republicans? Historic Ebola Death Toll in USA = 1. And when it comes to guns in schools the Republicans say what problem; there's just not enough good guys with guns to take care of the bad guys with guns in our schools; stay calm and arm all the teachers. School Toll in WA on Oct 24th; 2014 from gunshots: 2 Dead and 4 Wounded.

The research has been accomplished Boys; the choice is clear; The Democrat Party is clearly the sane and educated Party; now and forever.

Civil War on in Boys; let freedom ring while you rage.

MoMaj,

Why do you insist on sullying your screen name?

http://ncronline.org/blogs/peace-pulpit/we-must-treat-all-people-love-god-and-je...

Amen, Dave! Amen!

Reason to celebrate;

"The last U.S. Marines unit and final British combat troops in Afghanistan officially ended their operations on Sunday as they packed up to leave the country and transferred a massive military base to the Afghan military."

Let freedom ring.

The Republican definition of action; They said they are suing President Obama; that was 4 months ago; The Republicans said they were going to file the lawsuit very soon; that was 4 months ago; very soon?

Two years ago it was the Revolution that was to start very soon; this year it's the Civil War that will start soon. We know better; the Republicans are paralyzed with fear and cannot take the grown-up path.

What have the Republicans done for this nation? Promises they can't, wont or have no intention of keeping. Words Matter? It would be laughable if the problems this nation faces because of the inaction of the Republicans wasn't so important.

Make a decision right now to put this nation first and leave behind the Republican hate and bitterness.

The Republicans think Democrats will be devastated if the Republicans take control of the Senate and the House of Representatives in November 2014.

The research has been done Boys; It is impossible for the Republicans to take control of the United States Congress until January 2015; and Democrats will not be devastated as we know the USA can easily survive even under a Republican majority; did it during Reagan and Bush eras; After the last 6 years of huge progress in the US we don't think the Republicans can completely wipe-out all the good that has been accomplished. Let freedom ring

Civil War on Boys. You're better at raging and hating than understanding the US Constitution and our government.

We ask the following question just to see what the Republicans thoughts are;

Do you agree with or disagree with the bottom 2 paragraphs of the * Mon, Oct 27, 2014, at 12:15 PM * post on this webpage?

We were wrong about Republicans having a majority in the US Congress during Bush/Reagan years. Sorry for the misleading and incorrect statement. Consider this a retraction of that part of our earlier post.

It seems local Republicans have an unhealthy interest in discovering who we are. One said he could easily find out but would gladly turn the info over to others that may or may not have anger issues. Others have implied they would like to negatively affect our business by publicizing who we are. And every one of these Republicans post under an assumed identity. Add one more Republican to the shaking and quaking in fear over liberal business owners to that list.

We encourage all Republicans who have made misleading statement on this webpage to also step up and admit your mistakes. Democrats don't have problems admitting when they are wrong. Any Republicans takers?

Civil War on Boys and let freedom ring.

The Republicans and the US Constitution; well the 2nd Amendment; the only part they have tried to read and might have some understanding; the right to bear arms begins early in Texas; the responsible gun owner; the sleepy but good guy with a gun; he gets owned by a 3 year old; no word if the bad guy with a gun will face charges in this incident; maybe the 3 year old has anger issues but the 2nd Amendment must apply here too.

* http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/27/us-usa-texas-shooting-idUSKBN0IG28O201... *

The Republicans love for veterans and our military is clear.

86-Year-Old Ohio Veteran Can't Vote After Government-Issued ID Is Rejected At Poll

* http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/03/06/439324/86-year-old-ohio-veteran-cant... *

Civil War on Boys, let freedom ring

The Republicans have been consistent with their story; Liberals are all out to take away your guns; link after link after link; now they say their story for the last 7 years is a work of misinformation and fiction?

The research has been done Boys; The Republicans want you to believe liberal want to take your guns away; and then one of their own slips off point and tells the truth; then the Republicans accuse us of misinformation spreading; The Republicans want it both ways except when it come to facts and truths.

Remember, it was the Republicans who have been researching liberals who own businesses and asking us to reveal our true identity; only to tells us 10 hours later they really didn't do it.

Civil War on Boys and let freedom ring

I can't recall Sara saying the Second Amendment is "bad." As I understand her point, the trouble is not with the amendment, but with our irrational response to events like the three years old child was involved in. For instance, one could claim that since the 2nd amendment doesn't prohibit three years old children from keeping and bearing arms, there should be no cause for alarm in such an event. Everyone is endowed with the right to pack heat, whethe they're three or John Hinckley, Jr.

I don't want my name in the paper.

2009; The Republicans stated goal was to make sure Obama was a one term President.

2013; Repeal ObamaCare was the Republican goal.

2015; The stated goal of the Republicans is Impeach Obama.

The Republicans have lofty goals but can never seem to follow through. With their planned Civil War on their agenda; 3 out of 4 goals were focused on one man and the other is violence. That's the kind of leadership that deserves to be voted out or not elected at all. Let freedom ring Boys

What about the goal for Boehner to sue Obama? They aren't doing that either, Sara.

Moral majority, I hope whoever gets elected can spell words correctly and realizes that they aren't taking over any part of Congress on Tuesday. The new Senate and House of Representatives start in January of 2015.

The Republicans have almost a whole week to continue to dumb themselves out of a victory so don't get your hopes up Moral majority.

If the Republicans can post fake, misleading or National Enquirer type headlines; Let us see how hard it is for a Democrat.

# FEMA Camps ready to reopen again. Republicans Need to Report Monday Morning. Obama Scary.

# Obama Scary. Coming to Get Your Guns. Set them outside Your Door Monday Morning.

# Election Canceled; Communist and Obama Won. He's Scary.

# Civil Wars Are Fun and Exciting Events. Republican Practice Begins Monday Morning. Obama Scary.

# 10 Million Additional Americans Have Health Insurance. Republicans Buy More Guns to Protect Rights to be Sacred of Obama.

# Impeach Obama. Obama Scary.

# Republicans Really, Really, Really Anticipate Election Day. To Excited to Sleep. Obama Scary.

Easy as lies. Maybe the Democrat should start a misinformation campaign. Na, we're the sane, truthful and Educated Party. No need.

Civil War on Boys and let freedom ring.

Republicans newest goal? Votes by men who don't know State Capitols should be counted as 1/2 or zero; unless they vote for the "Right" candidate. Womens votes shouldn't count.

The research has been done Boys; not too late to retract all your false and misleading statements; not to late to vote for the sane and Educated Democrat Party.

Civil War on Boys and let freedom ring.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/voter-fraud-real-rare/story?id=17213376

What is the main point of the article in your most recent post?

Another dumb Republican quote last week which might dumb the Republicans out of what they want.

"It's not going to be an easy election, it's a close election. Like I said, much closer than I can even understand why. I don't want to say anything about your Wisconsin voters but, some of them might not be as sharp as a knife." -- Republican National Committee co-chair while campaigning for Scott Walker in Wisconsin

After a fun dinner with a group of liberals tonight there were 2 questions asked we could not answer.

# What will the Republicans consider a win in this upcoming election; Taking the Senate was the only bar we could come up with.

# If the Republicans gain a majority in the Senate will they repeal ObamaCare and kick over 10 million people back into the ranks of the uninsured?

Answers or should we just wait to see the Republican spinners on Tuesday night. Awaken and Civil War on Boys; let freedom ring

I am saddened by all the vitriol flying off the page here. Both liberals and conservatives, republicans and democrats (and all others) have the right to express themselves but they do not have the right to their own facts. A lot of the comments have been based on speculation -- perhaps based on 'educated guesses' -- but still not factual -- not yet. Liberals are certain that conservatives want to murder the children because they don't support ACA (never mind this is from the party that always votes in favor of killing preborn children -- millions upon millions now). Liberals are positive that conservatives want to outlaw condoms, poison the water and the air, murder granny, and execute Honey Boo Boo. This is from the party that demands that pastor's sermons be censored by the government. All right there are some pretty far-fetched conspiracies hatched on both sides but it seems like most of them come from the far left. This is how Saul Alinsky (Mr. Obama's and Mrs. Clinton's mentor) taught them in his Rules for Radicals. The more outrageous the lie, the greater the impact on your opponent.

It should be obvious to anyone, that if conservatives really wanted to do all these things, they would be hurting themselves as well -- although I don't know about Honey Boo Boo! I think for most people -- on either side -- we simply have a different solution for the same problem. In some cases, we may even disagree on the nature and extent of the problem but even if we agreed the liberals would want Big Brother to do something and conservatives would want the government to get out of the way so that real experts could handle it. For the liberals, government becomes god -- unless it is run by Dubya! For conservatives, government has overreached way beyond its lawful charter -- unless it is needed to impeach Obama!

The insidious piece that makes so many conservatives furious, is that liberals have already been caught rigging voting machines in several states, they have bragged about their connection with the Occupy movement, with ACORN, with the government employees' unions and the teachers' unions, with NARAL, with Planned Infanticide, etc. It is extremely difficult to not prognosticate on their next moves. Conservatives have had a certain amount of power for a few brief months when they could have 'done something.' We can blame it on the RINOs. But they did very little. The House has done fairly well these past two years but it can do nothing without the help of the Senate. And it has to be a veto proof congress not just a majority.

I think I agree that we don't really want to impeach Obama just yet -- although even liberal Biden looks better and better all the time. As a matter of justice, there are matters that need to be cleared up involving many members of his administration. Nearly every department has been involved in illegal activities and some of those need major criminal investigations. But do we really want to spend the next two years with judicial hearings instead of fixing ACA (whatever it takes--especially with regard to punitive employer 'taxes' so they can put people back to work full time) and cleaning house so the government is not snooping on its own citizens. The liberals were always fond of accusing the conservatives of the very thing they actually did.

How about paying our military enough so that they at least make minimum wage? They work 12-14 hour days all the time and we're not talking about a combat zone. We never did that at the height of the Viet Nam war! How about worrying about VA care before we tackle medical benefits for undocumented aliens? ACA crocodile tears is such a hypocrisy. The VA scandal is the proof.

Those of us who have kids should be concerned with 'common core.' The federal government has no business telling parents what their kids ought to study. And the local school board needs to listen to parents, too. We, the parents, have hired them to educate our kids. Through the school board (which we select) we have the right and the power to hire and fire and run the education of our kids as we see fit. So if they insist on using poor methodology, like 'common core,' then someone needs to go packing. This common core math is a joke from an educational standpoint. (My undergraduate studies were in the field of Applied Mathematics). There are mostly good teachers out there who should be rewarded according to merit -- not just longevity. Those who aren't so great should be encouraged to take remedial classes or find other work. Not everyone makes a great teacher. A lot of money is spent on things not really educational in nature. That's another debate. But why are parents (and teachers!) required to buy school supplies. That should be a school budget line item. Volume purchasing by the district would bring that cost down considerably and would help the neediest families to stay even with those who have more.

So who are YOU going to vote for next Tuesday?

Thanks for checking in Doug. Hear that sound? That's Reagan spinning in his grave because his name has been attached to such an unrealistic argument.

Ronald Reagan, you seem to long-winded to really be the "great communicator" Ronald Reagan who could turn a complicated idea to a one sentence zinger i.e., "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down that wall."

But speaking of dumb Republicans, I notice Cool Breeze is saying he gets his information from the Drudge Report like that is something to be proud of. Rational Wiki has this to say about the Drudge Report.

"The Drudge Report is a tabloid website which hit the big time breaking the Monica Lewinsky scandal. It is the work of Matt Drudge, who worked at 7-11, McDonalds, and the CBS Studios gift shop before finding his calling as an Internet gossip. He also "wrote"[1] a book of stream-of-consciousness drivel and assorted filler, the Drudge Manifesto, which sold a lot of copies to the same sort of smarmy people who think the Cluetrain Manifesto and The Cathedral and the Bazaar are profound and cutting edge.

The Drudge Report has not been particularly notable for anything since except as a driver of Internet traffic to other websites and having web design straight out of 1995. Drudge's usual style is to link to ordinary news items using sensationalist and often misleading headlines. A link from Drudge usually results in the article's comments section turning into a cesspool of racist dog whistles and moral panics.

Two absolutely worthy causes it has helped boost are birtherism[2][3] and global warming denial[4] (it was a big promoter of Climategate, of course).[5] How he makes any money from the site is a mystery since it carries only a few blind-banner ads, many of them from wingnut pressure groups. The website design has changed little and still looks very 1997-ish. It has inspired at least two spoof websites, the Sludge Report and the Drudge Retort."

The references in brackets [ ] above are below.

1.↑ Not really. Much of it is verbatim reprints of emails to Drudge, chat transcripts, National Press Club transcripts, pages of nothing but 0s or 1s, and quotes.

2.↑ Matt Drudge hypes Jerome Corsi's new birther book, Salon

3.↑ With Drudge Report's Help, Birthers Latch Onto Phony Forgery Theory, Talking Points Memo

4.↑ Drudge and the denialists, Deltoid

5.↑ Drudge, Washington Times falsely claim allegedly hacked e-mails show global warming is not real, Media Matters

A "Christian" man in Oklahoma; that's in the USA, Boys; beheads a man for practicing Witchcraft.

The Scorecard; USA Religious Beheadings in October 2014? Christians = 1 and Muslims = 1

The Religious Right and many Republicans are calling for "Christian Jihad"; Has it started?

Civil War and Jihad on Boys. Let freedom ring

http://newsok.com/stillwater-man-killed-in-near-beheading-murder-charge-filed/ar...

Some more hopeful signs that at the last minute some dumb Republicans are going to dumb themselves out of getting a majority in the Senate. This was from Rand Paul.

"We're also fighting 40 years of us doing a crappy job, of Republicans not trying at all for 40 years, so it's a lot of overcoming," he said Wednesday. "You got to show up, you got to have something to say and really we just have to emphasize that we're trying to do something different."

And here is another quote from dumb old Rand.

"Remember Domino's Pizza? They admitted, 'Hey, our pizza crust sucks.' The Republican Party brand sucks and so people don't want to be a Republican and for 80 years, African-Americans have had nothing to do with Republicans."

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/30/politics/rand-paul-gop-brand/index.html

We believe we read somewhere the Republicans think their god healed the sick and helped the poor and didn't ask for money; did it for free.

The laws have been passed and enacted; still the Republicans want desperately for you to believe ObamaCare is an act of Communism. If you're confused about that fact, it's possible the Republicans are spreading misinformation and using scare tactics.

Civil War and Jihad on Boys. Let freedom ring and don't forget to vote

Rachel Maddox said this too well to dilute it with my own comments.

"Once all the votes are cast and counted, it will be interesting to see if telling voters to be afraid sent more of them to the polls or kept them home, hiding under the covers. My guess is the latter: Fear, like guilt, is an emotion that creates more upset than action. The feeling of being afraid doesn't usually lead to rational efforts to address the things you're afraid of. At least, that's what Washington has banked on this year."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/rachel-maddow-republicans-bank-on-fear-in...

Breeze,

Your going to lose your sanity blogging with these people. Let the election speak for itself.

Obama has set the tone, now lets just pray (yes wacko liberals we conservatives pray) people get out and vote today. This go around, I think it serves us that the snake still has it's head and liberals are distancing themselves. Next election, the head comes of the snake.

As a member of what the Republicans like to call us; Pink Pajama Wacko Liberals, we'd like to point out just how scary words can be to some people.

In Arizona; that's in the USA Boys; the Republicans are so scared of the word * abortion * they want to cut a whole page out of a high school biology book; as they said they can't afford to buy all new biology books without that really scary word; they decided tearing out the page or cutting the scary word out would be a better option.

The research has been done Boys; smaller government through tearing pages out of text books. If that doesn't change your mind and make you consider coming over to the sane and educated Democrat Party then maybe burning books might be your next step towards a real theocratic USA.

Civil War and Jihad on Boys; let freedom ring

The Republicans grasp on reality might be questioned at times.

When they say * Sara you are having to dig real deep to find info to bash conservatives if your headline is about 1 school district in Arizona. *

The research has been done Boy. Republicans Fear Factor campaigning in local, State and National levels; USA Ebola Deaths = 1 and ISIS Terrorist Attacks in the USA = 1

Number of textbooks needing the Republican scary word Fix? = >2

Civil War and Jihad on Boys. Let freedom ring

We are "devistated" and our "extreeme" anger issues will worsened by the Republican God that has promised to destroy the country; or maybe we aren't and your gods are really just another fear tool.

Will your beloved impeachment, repeal, Jihad, Civil War and presidential lawsuit goals be realized in 2015. Maybe the Republicans can shutdown the government again; we understand the golfball course is still open and plenty of road signs to shoot at during your gravy bowl slurping sessions; there are plenty of words you Boys find scary; you'll have the next few years to keep busy by cutting those frightening words out of the school textbooks.

The research has been accomplished; We're disappointed more people couldn't see through the fear and misinformation put out by the Republicans; now it' time for you Boys to make good on your goals and promises; we'll be waiting and watching every step of the way. Let freedom ring.

RING RING RING RING. Now go chase some Spotted Owls or Kangaroo Rats. I'm sure there are some trees out there deserving of a hug or two.

For the last 7 years or so the Republicans have been promising; Obama is coming to get all the guns; the Communist will take over the USA; the Nazi's will take over the USA; the brown people from south of the border will take over the USA; a new American Revolution - Civil War - Jihad is coming soon; god hates liberals and will destroy the USA.

Now the Republicans are right back on the Fear Campaign with Spotted Owls, Kangaroo Rats and frightening people hugging trees. Ebola and ISIS terrorists sweat inducing nightmares; Words such as * abortion * in textbooks and football coaches that aren't fair.

Republicans still seem to be very concerned about the scary liberals by saying * Will they continue their socialist attack on America *. Maybe we will build some more FEMA Camps too Boys. Remember those scary FEMA Camp stories; we do.

The Republicans have filled up the clown cars; get the popcorn out as the next 2 years will be amusing to witness and watch. Republican Jihad on Boys.

** The outcome wasn't just a judgment of President Barack Obama -- it was a "repudiation" of Clinton, too, Rand Paul said Wednesday morning on CNN. **

Popcorn and butter; lots of it.

Jihad on Boys.

If the Republicans are smart they will use their majority in both Houses of Congress to start compromising and produce a bill that won't be vetoed.

If they are dumb they will try to repeal the last several years of progress only to have their bills vetoed. They didn't win even close to enough seats to override a veto.

If they are really, really dumb, they will now take up the Senate's time investigating the Obama Administration, just like the House has been doing for several years.

The link below is interesting because it discusses this and how the Republican majority in the Senate may help Clinton's candidacy or may put her in a difficult situation.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/why-the-senate-gop-takeover-might-actuall...

The Republican Party is going to provide the USA and the rest of the world with what they think will be real significant and impactful changes.

* Amendment banning 'foreign law' in Alabama courts passes; will be added to Alabama Constitution *

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2014/11/amendment_banning_foreign_law.html

We prognosticate popcorn shortages by the end of 2015. We're already enjoying the comedy; Republican Jihad on Boys; break out the non foreign Freedom Fries with those new laws.

Sorry Cool Breeze but I don't think that you have any insight into what "most Americans" think. According to the exit polls a lot of voters no matter which way they voted were annoyed by the lack of compromise between Democratic AND Republican leadership. I suspect that they voted for the lesser of two evils from each of their perspectives of which was worse.

Now the Republicans have an opportunity to stop their grandstanding, brinkmanship, and constant manufactured outrage every time the president or anyone in the administration does or does not do anything. They can start acting like leaders and work with the Democrats on bills that are compromises in order to make progress.

Or they can continue to engage in dumb activities. I am thinking that it will be pretty hard for some of them to turn away from their dumb ways.

I noticed a reference to me by name from "Random Stranger" in a post dated 10/31/14.

Please know that if ever I was to post a comment on the blog that I would identify myself by name. If your reference to me was tied to a post on the blog that you assumed was by me, I assure you that I was not the author.

I do not contribute to the blog, but on rare occasion I do speed read parts of it.

Respectfully,

Doug Traubel

The Republicans have been whining hard since Obama became President; They say they could have done better; they say they are ready to take their shot at real significant and impactful changes; they also call Democrats idiots; let us sane and educated people discuss what these whiners must do to prove just how amazing, wonderful and inspiring they can be to the citizens of the USA and the world.

# Whining about jobs? Current Unemployment rate < 6%. Republicans have to keep it lower to prove they aren't just whiners.

# Health Care Insurance? They say they have a better plan and can do better. 10 million less uninsured citizens right now. Time for the Republicans to prove they have a plan, can get their Tea Party to agree, pass the plan into law and then fully and completely implement the new laws. Without accomplishing this, the Republicans might just be considered whiners.

# Wars? Iran, Syria, Russia and Afghanistan all require shock and awe warfare to show the world the USA isn't a bunch of whiners? That's what the Republicans have been implying for the last 6 years. Time to step up to the plate and get our military back into foreign lands where the Republicans think they need to be.

# The use of Presidential Executive Orders and the US Constitution? Time to act is coming up in 2015. The Republicans must shut down the ability of the President to use what they have been calling unconstitutional acts or just be known as whiners.

# Voting Fraud? The Republicans have been whining and crying about all the voter fraud that they think but rarely prove is happening. Time to identify all cases of voter fraud in the 2014 elections, create a fix and implement the fix. The Republicans won the Senate back so was voter fraud as big a problem as they have been whining about. Answer that question or be considered whiners.

# Immigration Reform? Time to build that wall along the Mexican border or be considered whiners.

# Impeach Obama? Will we see Articles of Impeachment drafted before February 1st 2015? Articles or be considered whiners.

# Public lands and cows? Free welfare grazing in 2015 and then turn over all public lands to the State. Needs to be accomplished by the Republican or everyone will be snickering at the whiners.

# FEMA Camp Shutdown? The Republicans must shutdown all those FEMA Camps and reintegrate all the Republicans interned in them since 2009.

# Guns? All the guns President Obama and his administration have taken away from Republicans. We understand there were millions? Republicans need to reverse the laws Obama and the Democrats passed that allowed this to happen. Or maybe the Republicans were using the time honored tradition of lying about things that never happened.

There are hundreds of other issues the Republican will have to address, solve or otherwise shut their eyes and pretend they weren't whining about in the next 60 days. Addressing the issues is the first step. Actions are the only thing that will prove Republicans aren't just a bunch of whiners with no plan other than to whine.

Jihad on Boys and let freedom ring.

Sara, you have laid it out very well all of the things that the Republicans have been blaming the Democrats on, and that therefore they should now step up to the plate since they have a majority and enact these things that they claim that they wanted so badly.

I read an article though describing the 11 freshmen senators. They too are frustrated by the gridlock and unlike some of the 2012 freshmen senators (Cruz for example) they want to stop the gridlock and cross the aisle to make deals to enact laws. Of course they still have the same leadership but maybe they will be prepared to stop the partisan voting. We will see but I am hopeful.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/freshman-class-is-young-by-us-senate-stan...

And the walls of segregation came tumbling down for the Republican Party in 2014; only 45 years after the Democrats; congratulations to the Republicans.

* (November 2014) The first elected black woman to represent the Republican Party in Congress. *

Only a Civil War can turn things around now Boys; Republican Jihad on and let those Freedom Fries Fry

http://www.ejfi.org/Courts/Courts-4.htm

"Still have their jobs" CoolBreeze? It's interesting that your claims never seem to have a factual basis. The jobless rate is down. According to the Washington Post this morning "The U.S. labor market grew steadily in October, adding 214,000 jobs'. Duh!

I think that you may have been caught up in a whirlwind of Republican dumbness which you have absorbed.

Democrats on The Hill lost their jobs because six years of deferral by Republicans has driven the unemployment rate to 5.8%

Are you saying voters were duped?

http://www.bls.gov/

I hope this link sticks. I haven't had too much luck here lately. :)

Too bad CoolBreeze that you are citing information from the beginning of October, probably talking about September statistics. The current information that I provided earlier and that Dave commented on is for November. Information released today on the statistics for October. -- Try to catch up.

http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2013/article/labor-force-projections-to-2022-the-lab...

This link is more to the point of labor participation rates.

The participation rate although OLD NEWS, is explained by the Business Insider. In short, it is not the big negative drama that Cool Breeze makes it out to be. Remember this is from September's jobs report.

"Today's jobs report, while overall very strong, showed a slight tick down in the labor force participation rate, from 62.8% last month to 62.7% this month. It's now at the lowest rate since 1978.

Why the participation rate has fallen so much is one of the most hotly debated questions in economics. On the one hand, America is aging, and the baby boomers are beginning to retire. That leads to a natural demographic decline in the participation rate.

On the other hand, the US is coming out of the worst recession it has faced in decades, and the participation rate dropped much more sharply since 2008. The cyclical effects from the recession may also be a big factor in the declining participation rate."

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/labor-force-participation-rate-september-2014-201...

random stranger, I have a book recommendation for you if you are interested: "Ender's Game". The movie left out a major part of the book which relates very interestingly to this political blog.

Citizens United uses its power and influence to squelch independent thinkers.

Interesting viewing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhMfYMj6QLw

No wonder the Republicans had such good results at the polls a few days ago. When the Republicans can make definitive statements like * FEMA Concentration Camps are real and all the economic and employment indices produced by the USA are fake * ; and people actually slurp up that bowl full of drool and drivel?; Maybe the Republican pirouette has rational people dizzy and out of their minds.

In what world does a political party get away with saying all of the following numbers are faked or manipulated?!?!?

# Gross Domestic Product (GDP); Personal Income and Outlays; Consumer Spending; Corporate Profits; Fixed Assets; Consumer Price Index; Employment Cost Index; The Producer Price Index and Unemployment Rate # Are the Republicans real creators of the Conspiracy Nut Tree? Tax breaks for the rich and Conspiracy Nuts for the rest of the Republican Jihadists.

Only a Civil War can turn things around now Boys; Republican Jihad on and let those Freedom Fries Fry

This is interesting. Cool Breeze, today at 3:50 pm, refutes his own claim at 10:07 am today.

He quotes a number this morning and then he says this afternoon that you can't trust numbers coming from the government. But wait a minute! His source of information this morning got it from the U.S. Government jobs report, or from another web site that got its information from the same U.S. government jobs report.

I think that when Cool Breeze keeps "lol"-ing, he may be losing brain cells.

"Anyone believing any numbers with respect to the economy, unemployment, coming from this administration obviously still hasn't realized numbers are being manipulated. Talk about a puppet show, lol!" -- Posted by CoolBreeze83647 on Fri, Nov 7, 2014, at 3:50 PM

"93 million Americans out of work, Dave. Labor participation rate lowest its been in 36 years. So, tell me again how unemployment is under 6%? LOL!" -- Posted by CoolBreeze83647 on Fri, Nov 7, 2014, at 10:13 AM

random stranger, I'll give it a try.

A study was done regarding why some conservatives don't believe in the problem of client change. It turns out that they don't believe it because they don't like the solutions to climate change.

Conversely, they found that some liberals didn't believe statistics about break ins because they didn't believe in the solution of having a gun in their house.

The difference in the two things is that not doing something about climate change affects the world and our survival on this planet and has a certain negative result. Not doing something about having a gun in the house, only affects the people in the house, for the small percentage that have break-ins.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/07/climate-change-conservatives_n_6124028....

The brilliance of the Republican Party; stating facts from a source they say are fake but implying the facts they use from the faked source are true while saying everyone is ignorant for using facts from the source they used to prove everyone other than Republicans are ignorant.

And while everyone is chasing their tails trying to decipher that gibberish the Republicans want us to believe they uncover more Benghazi gibberish. Brilliant tactics to use on those not willing to do the research such as the Republican base.

Only a new and improved Republican Civil War can turn things around now Boys; Republican Jihad on and let those Freedom Fries Fry

The Republican Party is dancing the dance. They call us * severely marginalized bloviating malcontents *? Marginalized? Really Boys?

Maybe they can hit us up with some of the government statistics they use for facts but don't believe. That would really marginalized us.

The Party of Freedom Fries keeps on insulting. Set them free and salt them good, Boys

Now the Republicans have determined that any numbers with respect to the economy, unemployment, coming from this administration are faked; and they believe voter fraud numbers are huge also; can we as the so called * severely marginalized bloviating malcontents * infer the Republican didn't win back the Senate? Or didn't the Republican Misinformation Team think about that one.

Freedom Fries for All.

How can this idea get off the ground in a Red State? Everybody knows there is little evidence that human activity affects our climate.

Commissioner Radford's statement reads like a fifth grade math problem.

http://www.localnews8.com/news/county-leaders-say-cloud-seeding-in-eastern-idaho...

Should anyone break it to Cool Breeze that the election wins for Republicans giving them a majority in the Senate, was also a defeat for his very own Tea Party?

The article below, from "Politico" describes how the U.S. Chamber of Commerce involved itself in the election early in the process to throw money (millions) behind defeating Tea Party challengers in the 2014 primaries. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce is a very powerful business lobby. After defeating the Tea Party challengers it then continued to support Republicans and an occasional Democrat in the 2014 election, IF the Democrat was faced up against a Tea Party Republican.

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/11/chamber-of-commerce-tea-party-2014-112708....

Related to this,"The Economist" had an article that also talks about the Tea Party defeats.

"In several states party leaders worked to block maverick Tea Party types from running under the Republican banner and harming the party's national brand."

http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21631074-voters-hand-republicans-une...

In regards to Cool Breeze's name calling, calling Sara and I "severely marginalized bloviating malcontents" that is just typical of someone that has no other idea or fact to support his beliefs.

In regards to the "REFUSE to believe America has left them behind" it looks to me that Sara and I are doing well in America, we have the 2016 election to look forward to. Unfortunately Cool Breeze's team may be seeing the end of their days. Like the John Birch Society, the Tea Party will rise again under a new name. I'm sure that they are working on that now. Too bad!

The Republicans; The Alabama Republicans have decided gun ownership is a Human Right. They also say ObamaCare is Communism. Vengeance is mine says the Republicans; let the devil take care of heath care.

Let Freedom Fries Fry and Civil War on Boys.

You don't speak for America and American's Cool Breeze and you certainly don't know enough to be listened to on the subject. You only repeat the Tea Party's sad, boring diatribe.

You are like Sarah Palin, who the Daily Beast says "Even when she's saying things that are arguably tendentious and counterfactual (a diplomatic way of describing what her elite detractors might simply call "silly lies")" she grabs for attention. So do you, and like poor Palin you are "stuck in the lamestream".

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/11/07/stuck-in-the-lamestream-sarah-p...

This is for you Cool Breeze. I borrowed this tradition from Marilyn. Marilyn, I hope that you don't mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcYsO890YJY

Seems like just 1 year ago our local Republican Tea Party Conservative Independent Statistician of Faked Real Numbers quit posting on this webpage * Forever *; a few months later his forever ended and he posted many, many times; now faced with the likelihood of dealing with a Republican Party failing all over again; he implies he must leave again forever; maybe he is just missing Wayne.

Civil War on Boys and let freedom fries fry.

Now the Republicans have been elected into a leadership position we see things are rapidly changing.

# Ebola is no longer a big issue or even scary to the Republicans; the magic Republican Medical Bean?

# The tide of ISIS Terrorists streaming across our borders has been fought off by the invisible Republican Terrorist Fighting Army; magical.

But where's the outrage? There is a California State Flag flying at the cemetery. You know Boys, that foreign republica of communist kalifornias that Republicans don't know is one of our 50 States; foreign flags on Idaho soil? Only a Civil War can change things now.

Let freedom fries fry and textbooks be carved on to remove those scary words.

On the subject of net neutrality -

http://www.whitehouse.gov/net-neutrality?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_c...

On Ted Cruz - I agree, and he delivered the least soulful reading of "Green Eggs and Ham" I'd ever heard.

I agree on what you both said about Ted Cruz. The guy is disgusting.

Regarding net neutrality, search engines like Yahoo and Google set priorities based on usually fair criteria but when they have a side business of creating web sites for people do they provide higher priority to these web sites in searches? I don't know but I'd bet that they do.

Sometimes you need big government to make sure things are fair.

Speaking of stupid Cool Breeze, the remarks that the examiner and other extreme right wing web sites are posting as recent information, the quote from Gruber was an 18 minute excerpt of what he said at a conference in October 2013. Snopes says this about that.

"It appears the comments made by Gruber entered the stream of social media hot topics due to a 9 November 2014 post on the website the Daily Signal, where it was framed as a "newly surfaced video." The shorter version of the video was initially posted by the political action committee (PAC) American Commitment, whose Phil Kerpen tweeted:

"While the newly-circulated video of Gruber's remarks is unedited, the comments are neither recent nor complete, and whether the originating source attempted to pull them from the Internet at one point remains unclear."

Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/gruber.asp#ykOwJc3mMdwRoQD6.99

Speaking of not keeping your word, Cool Breeze, on Sunday evening after you were embarrassed for posting government facts, and then claiming that you couldn't trust you made this comment.

"It's been "fun" poking the stick at liberals on this blog. But now that the election is over and liberalism is dying on the vine, it's no longer much fun, nor is it even amusing to kick you liberals in the teeth (even though, GOD KNOWS, you deserve it).

You libs can talk amongst yourselves for awhile. Use this time to console and comfort one another, for the next few years will not be kind to you, your precious party, nor your socialist agenda.

Have fun, girls!" -- Posted by CoolBreeze83647 on Sun, Nov 9, 2014, at 6:02 PM

You are a legend in your own mind. You are not even close to being up to poking liberals with a stick or kicking us in our teeth. I, myself, laugh at your constant factual mistakes.

Speaking of healthcare, open enrollment for 2015 starts on November 15.

https://www.healthcare.gov/

Media will be saturated with speculation regarding future Republican plans for the ACA. I don't believe they'll do much. The ACA presents politicians with an opportunity to drive a political wedge between their countrymen. It's easier to be elected based on one's rhetoric rather than the results of one's efforts.

Take the EPA for instance. Congress created the EPA and gave that agency responsibilities to fulfill. The EPA's "overreach" and "radical environmentalist" policies flow from the purposefully vague law Congress wrote. If the constituents of Congress don't like the law, they should have the law changed.

Congress won't change the law because 1.) they recognize the value and importance of a legacy of environmental responsibility has to our grandchildren (the ones we were asked to think of when we were in the voting booth), and 2.) it provides them with another rhetorical hammer and divisive wedge.

Cool Breeze, taking a year old 18 minute out of context excerpt from a much longer video and presenting it as accurate and current is dishonest.

This reminds me of when you took a video by Obama that had key words removed so that it appeared that Obama was saying something that he really wasn't saying. This is a pattern of posting false information in order to try to fool people.

It's interest that you say "If you aren't angry about being lied to" there is truth in that. I am annoyed that someone would go into a blog and deliberately try to mislead.

Random stranger I am recording Democracy Now and last night I did watch the early Monday morning show. I thought it provided balanced reporting of headlines. On the going into the detail it seemed to rely on one person to more deeply evaluate something and I'd rather see multiple different viewpoints.

I was surprised that there is so much more news than the bickering between and within political parties although I was pleased to see that some news such as the decrease in the jobless rate to 5.8% was reported the same as the government report.

The Republican Agenda for 2015-2016 is becoming much more clear;

# Impeach Obama.

# Repeal ObamaCare

The research in right in front of you Boys; The only priority, the only plan, the only action the Republicans are willing take is to continue their plan from 2009 with one exception; Obama will be a full two term President. Republicans implementing a failed plan is their only plan.

Civil War on Boys; Let freedom fries fry.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?321281-1/secretary-Kerry-usmuslim-relations

Here's an opportunity for those interested in the full context of the Secretary's remarks.

The website provided by in an earlier post by another frequent contributor may not have had the resources to provide the video in its entirety.

Thanks Dave. Sometimes I get tired of finding the truth behind Cool Breeze's out of context excerpts which are taken out of context to change the meaning of the words, in an attempt to claim that the person (always a Democrat) is evil.

Cool Breeze, if you want people to start taking you seriously you should do better research and stop playing games with out of context excerpts of statements. Remember the 10 Commandments and not bearing false witness? Stopping this is also the right thing to do, per God's commandments.

A solar power plant in Mountain Home? And there are plenty of windmills generating power around this area; why are the Republicans letting these treehuggers get away with blasphemy. We all know the windmills are scary because it will weaken or eliminate the Cool Breezes blowing in this region. And solar power plants; won't these take the only sunshine away from the angry old Republicans? Alternate and progressive ways to generate energy must be a frightening thing; maybe they can outlaws those types of words in our high school textbooks.

Snip and clip your way to a non-scary education. Civil War on Boys and let those freedom fries fry.

Sara, in regard to one of the two goals from the Republicans that you mentioned, Politico had a great story about various strategies that they have. One thing that it mentions that I hadn't though of is that although there are 54 Republicans in the Senate, some of these Republicans are coming up for re-election in 2016 from Blue states. They won't want to participate in too much silliness.

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/11/ted-cruz-obamacare-repeal-112791.html?ml=p...

They MUST obey the order to fear or they will be assimilated into the Tea Party for re-programming.

Yeah, Cool Breeze, of course an out of context excerpt from a comment is just as accurate as what the full comment was. Wink!

On another subject, I've had a cold this week so I've been thinking about Ebola. Last week I had a Doctor's Appointment and I had some new health waivers to sign. I was also asked if I had been to any of several places in Africa.

During my appointment I asked for a look at the clothes that the medical people are supposed to put on if I was to say that I had been to Nigeria and/or I had flu-like symptoms. I was shown those and was told that if I was to seem like I might have Ebola then the doctor would immediately go to the office door and toss me something to put over my head while he asked me more questions standing in the doorway.

If I might have Ebola then I would be pointed in the direction of the restroom and told to stay there while everyone suited up.

Millions of dollars are being spent on this preparedness. Mother Jones made some suggestions on what to do to prevent the Ebola problem turning into another War on Terror where we give up our rights to privacy among other things.

The article is worth reading. Since I have a cold this week, I am very glad that I have no Doctor's appointments.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/11/4-lessons-war-terror-apply-ebola-fig...

Honesty, truthfulness and credibility isn't often questioned unless it's required under law or in this instance, immortalized on the internet forever.

* My last post forever on this blog:

-- Posted by CoolBreeze83647 on Sat, Nov 23, 2013, at 9:23 AM *

Let freedom fries fry and sleeping dogs lie. Civil War on Boys.

Good video with food for thought found at the website of the Constitution Society: http://constitution.org/c5/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26g0rWwvYVY&feature=player_embedded

Here's one on Logical Fallacies. Watch this video and then find how many of these logical fallacies are presented throughout the Political Corner.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmIb2Jb-KC8

Logical Fallacies part two:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiUrSFAIktY

I'll be checking the prospectuses of the funds I'm invested in.

http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/282518561.html

Question; What do the Republicans, net neutrality, the Nazis and Obama have in common? Answer; just another another Thursday Republican fear festival.

How many different crazy ideas can the Republicans tie to the Nazis of the 1940's and Obama of the 2000's?

The Fallacy videos were great Dave! I see these fallacies used a lot. Maybe a way to combat them is to identify the Fallacy when it comes up.

The Republican's Waffle Cone Impeach Obama agenda is getting confusing; for the Republicans.

One day it's Impeach Obama; the next there isn't enough votes; the next, Impeach Obama is a campaign promise. Now the Republicans; even Republicans who said 4 months ago Impeaching Obama is a bad idea have found some bravery. Bravery? Yea right Boys.

The Republicans are clamoring to Impeach Obama for immigration reform executive orders that haven't been written, published or even seen. The Republicans know the unseen order is unconstitutional; somehow; some way; they feel; might be; most definitely unconstitutional.

The research has been done and it's clear the Republicans don't actually know what is in the US Constitution other than what the NRA tells them is in it.

The Republican Jihad has been planned; or so the Boys have told us; let those freedom fries fry.

The Huffington Post had an article where John Boehner is saying the he is looking at a whole bunch of things: expanding his lawsuit against the President, shutting down the government, and basically anything else except passing an Immigration law that everyone can agree with.

Along with this article, it posted pictures over the last several years of John Boehner crying. I think that they may be thinking that he needs to man up and start passing some reasonable legislation so that Obama doesn't need to sign Executive Actions.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/13/john-boehner-government-shutdown_n_6154...

I'll check out the Brand interview.

I agree with Justice Stevens' dissenting opinion. He sums it up in the second paragraph on page 80.

http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/09pdf/08-205.pdf

Make that page 90

The Republicans seem really confused these days; and these days really started the day Obama was elected; but this Republican confusion appears to be more of a feature than a problem to the Fox News Consumers.

Here is just a sample of what Republicans argue as why Election Day or Democracy Day should never become a national holiday in the USA.

* "democracy" is a word that tends to be used in celebratory ways primarily in places that do not practice it: for instance, North Korea, a.k.a. the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. *

The research has been done and is just waiting for your eyes. Republicans are quite sure they want angry old men and only angry old men voting in all elections. After all John Adams; an angry old white man from back in the 90's; the 1790's; might have wanted only angry old white men to vote.

We highly doubt Republican will read this link from the highly liberal and almost socialist website called the National Review but here it is http://www.nationalreview.com/article/392625/democracy-day-no-solution-low-turno...

Let freedom Fries Fry and Civil War on Boys.

Is it possible that some of the people Mr. Gruber was talking about hangout in this forum just typing away the same old stuff on a daily basis?

Good one, Sara. It appears that the Republicans are still planning on how they will respond to Executive Actions on Immigration by using the spending bill as a way to rescind them. What is unclear to me is that nobody seems to be trying to get together an immigration bill so that the Executive Actions aren't needed. Even with their majority the Republicans just want to block things rather than legislate.

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/11/president-obama-immigration-112915.html?ml...

Random stranger, it's not that I love Democrats so much. It's more that I think that the Tea Party and other ultra conservative Republicans have gotten in the habit of just blocking things. The current Congress is the biggest do nothing Congress than probably we have ever had.

I'm also alarmed that there is no control on campaign donations which is turning this country from a Democracy to an Oligarchy.

Then there is the denial of voting in populated, largely minority parts of the country by making people wait forever in lines to vote.

I could go on forever, but I prefer to find interesting to me articles and talk about them, one topic at a time.

Sorry random stranger. I'll start posting.

Climate change is a good topic where you can see a difference between Democrats and Republican's. A Louisiana Congressman whose district is being taken over by rising water soon to disappear, is not as rabid as other Republican climate deniers but he is still unwilling to go up against the Koch brothers and their climate change denial.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/11/garret-graves-louisiana-pragmatic-cl...

Random stranger, you make a good point about the genetic cause of homosexuality. I have seen that it runs in families. I think these families are probably forced to become more tolerant than other families.

We all know Obama was coming to get the guns from the Republicans. You told us and told us and screamed at us and campaigned about it and bought 10000's of guns and millions of rounds to prove it to us.

We all know the USA was going communist because of ObamaCare. You told us and told us and screamed at us and campaigned about it. The Republicans even went out and bought 10000's of guns and millions of rounds to defend your right to drool longer and slurpier over communism.

We all know the USA was going to go up in flames because of Obama. You told us and told us and screamed at us and campaigned about it. The Republicans even went out and bought 10000's of guns and millions of rounds to defend your right to put out the fires.

We all know Ebola and the ISIS was streaming across the border at an unprecedented rate and everyone was going to die. You told us and told us and screamed at us and campaigned about it. The Republicans even went out and bought 10000's of guns and millions of rounds to defend against the attackers both seen and unseen.

The Republicans seem to always be wrong, always scared and still buying guns to fight off the enemy that never seems to attack. And in another 2 months these same people will be the majority and making laws. We're scared; scared the Republicans will outlaw popcorn. The next 2 years are destined to be more entertaining than any movie ever made.

Let freedom fries fry and Civil War on Boys. Pass the popcorn.

We fail to understand; likely because of our race, gender or some other criteria of their choice; why would someone say they know we don't care what they say; then move on to the typical insult; then move on to insist we join in their discussion on what she insist is her personal webpage?

We'll fire up the ole popcorn maker and wait for the insults from random people. Let those freedom fries fry and Civil War on Boys.

This afternoon I began to re-look into the scientific reasons why conservatives and liberals can't seem to logically debate ideas, using a blog which I won't name as my inspiration where after the blog was challenged, name calling began with the final name that us liberal veterans were big stickery weeds.

Mother Jones reported on a study which said, "There is by now evidence from a variety of laboratories around the world using a variety of methodological techniques leading to the virtually inescapable conclusion that the cognitive-motivational styles of leftists and rightists are quite different. This research consistently finds that conservatism is positively associated with heightened epistemic concerns for order, structure, closure, certainty, consistency, simplicity, and familiarity, as well as existential concerns such as perceptions of danger, sensitivity to threat, and death anxiety."

What does that mean? Conservatives are afraid. But apparently they are more happy. It's too bad that we can't challenge people without reverting to name calling probably springing from fear.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/07/biology-ideology-john-hibbing-negati...

random stranger I do believe that some people are born gay.

And of course Cool Breeze will pop in with his usual pot calling the kettle black plus name calling.

The Republicans often tell us liberals are bitter and angry. News flash senior citizens; our group of bright, educated and optimistic liberals in this area are quite positive about the future of this country and the world also.

# we believe the USA can easily survive and maybe even thrive under the direction of Republican leadership.

# this nation has survive real wars and even manufactured wars in the past and we know we can do it again and again; 6 years later we're a better nation no thanks to the Republican's love of war.

# we survived the great recession and the USA and the rest of the world is thriving; despite the Republican roadblocks.

# ObamaCare survived 40+ Republican votes to repeal and well over 10 million previously uninsured now have access to health care; despite the Republican hatred.

The research has been done Boys; the USA was headed down a great path for the last 6 years; even with all the craziness the Republicans can manufacture in their marinated brains we know this great country will survive; despite Republican policies. You can continue buying guns and bullets for your silly Civil War wish; continue buying buckets for that inferno that will never come; you can hide behind ignorance thinking the communists are coming; let freedom ring and keep those freedom fries frying. We'll provide the popcorn and the Republicans will provide the entertainment.

Very good article random stranger. Yes, foes of Obama care are trying once again to manipulate who they really think are stupid voters into making Gruber more than he is and his silly comments as something more.

It appears to be desperation as they start worrying more and more about 2016 and whether they can survive on another two years of blocking things.

CoolBreeze it's been awhile since you have tried to convince anyone that you have a point to make. Yes, those little name calling fits may sound impressive to you while you are writing them but you need to come up with some new insults man. This is getting boring!

Why not try again to post something with a point. Just a word of warning: if its a photo shopped picture, an edited video or audio, or something only showing on the right wing garbage sites we may laugh pretty hard at you. It won't be an effeminate little "lol" either.

Haven't read this site in a while. Have the liberal whiners taken their toys and gone home?

Republican Leadership is a oxymoronic phrase of sorts we're thinking.

After all, the Republican leadership wants to Impeach and sue Obama for an offense he may commit; immigration reform; while an immigration bill passed by the Senate sits for over 1 year gather dust.

The research is available Boys; but the Republican motto is being changed from GOP to * We Rather Sue than Do *

Civil War on Boys and let those Freedom Fries Fry.

Republicans claim they didn't shut down the government until they take full credit for shutting down the government; The Republican Party, the Party of

* We Rather Sue than Do *

can now add more to their resume. How about

* Republican government workers love their extra taxpayer paid vacations Slurp, Slurp, Slurp, Gravy Bowl Good *

And how do we know this? Look around Boys; do the reading;

* "This is the second shut down where the GOP got blamed and saw no catastrophe at the ballot box," wrote RedState.com's Erick Erickson on Tuesday. "Every horror story every talking head within the GOP Establishment trotted out to scare congressmen and senators into caving turned out to be wrong." *

Only a Civil War can change things now Boys; Get those muskets and hardtack ready; but don't forget to let those freedom fries fry. This Republican Freedom and Leadership Channel is getting better each day; pop, pop, pop.

This is a cut and paste describing Graham's Hierarchy of Disagreement. I am posting this as an illustration of how Cool Breeze's name calling of others does not add to his arguments but puts him on the lowest rung of having a valid argument.

Note that I XXX'd out a bad word.

"DH0. Name-calling.

This is the lowest form of disagreement, and probably also the most common. We've all seen comments like this:

u r a XXX!!!!!!!!!!

But it's important to realize that more articulate name-calling has just as little weight. A comment like

The author is a self-important dilettante.

is really nothing more than a pretentious version of "u r a XXX."

DH1. Ad Hominem.

An ad hominem attack is not quite as weak as mere name-calling. It might actually carry some weight. For example, if a senator wrote an article saying senators' salaries should be increased, one could respond:

Of course he would say that. He's a senator.

This wouldn't refute the author's argument, but it may at least be relevant to the case. It's still a very weak form of disagreement, though. If there's something wrong with the senator's argument, you should say what it is; and if there isn't, what difference does it make that he's a senator?

Saying that an author lacks the authority to write about a topic is a variant of ad hominem--and a particularly useless sort, because good ideas often come from outsiders. The question is whether the author is correct or not. If his lack of authority caused him to make mistakes, point those out. And if it didn't, it's not a problem.

DH2. Responding to Tone.

The next level up we start to see responses to the writing, rather than the writer. The lowest form of these is to disagree with the author's tone. E.g.

I can't believe the author dismisses intelligent design in such a cavalier fashion.

Though better than attacking the author, this is still a weak form of disagreement. It matters much more whether the author is wrong or right than what his tone is. Especially since tone is so hard to judge. Someone who has a chip on their shoulder about some topic might be offended by a tone that to other readers seemed neutral.

So if the worst thing you can say about something is to criticize its tone, you're not saying much. Is the author flippant, but correct? Better that than grave and wrong. And if the author is incorrect somewhere, say where.

DH3. Contradiction.

In this stage we finally get responses to what was said, rather than how or by whom. The lowest form of response to an argument is simply to state the opposing case, with little or no supporting evidence.

This is often combined with DH2 statements, as in:

I can't believe the author dismisses intelligent design in such a cavalier fashion. Intelligent design is a legitimate scientific theory.

Contradiction can sometimes have some weight. Sometimes merely seeing the opposing case stated explicitly is enough to see that it's right. But usually evidence will help.

DH4. Counterargument.

At level 4 we reach the first form of convincing disagreement: counterargument. Forms up to this point can usually be ignored as proving nothing. Counterargument might prove something. The problem is, it's hard to say exactly what.

Counterargument is contradiction plus reasoning and/or evidence. When aimed squarely at the original argument, it can be convincing. But unfortunately it's common for counterarguments to be aimed at something slightly different. More often than not, two people arguing passionately about something are actually arguing about two different things. Sometimes they even agree with one another, but are so caught up in their squabble they don't realize it.

There could be a legitimate reason for arguing against something slightly different from what the original author said: when you feel they missed the heart of the matter. But when you do that, you should say explicitly you're doing it.

DH5. Refutation.

The most convincing form of disagreement is refutation. It's also the rarest, because it's the most work. Indeed, the disagreement hierarchy forms a kind of pyramid, in the sense that the higher you go the fewer instances you find.

To refute someone you probably have to quote them. You have to find a "smoking gun," a passage in whatever you disagree with that you feel is mistaken, and then explain why it's mistaken. If you can't find an actual quote to disagree with, you may be arguing with a straw man.

While refutation generally entails quoting, quoting doesn't necessarily imply refutation. Some writers quote parts of things they disagree with to give the appearance of legitimate refutation, then follow with a response as low as DH3 or even DH0.

DH6. Refuting the Central Point.

The force of a refutation depends on what you refute. The most powerful form of disagreement is to refute someone's central point.

Even as high as DH5 we still sometimes see deliberate dishonesty, as when someone picks out minor points of an argument and refutes those. Sometimes the spirit in which this is done makes it more of a sophisticated form of ad hominem than actual refutation. For example, correcting someone's grammar, or harping on minor mistakes in names or numbers. Unless the opposing argument actually depends on such things, the only purpose of correcting them is to discredit one's opponent.

Truly refuting something requires one to refute its central point, or at least one of them. And that means one has to commit explicitly to what the central point is. So a truly effective refutation would look like:

The author's main point seems to be x. As he says:

But this is wrong for the following reasons... The quotation you point out as mistaken need not be the actual statement of the author's main point. It's enough to refute something it depends upon."

http://www.paulgraham.com/disagree.html

Now others and Republicans are saying liberal are afraid of guns. The liberals we know and interact with have no fear of guns.

As has been drilled into our brains by every gun toting right-winger; guns don't kill people; people gun down people. Except those unloaded guns that kill a few dozen people each year during the cleaning process; then guns must kill people in those cases.

We also like to counter with cars don't kill people but people who drive cars are expected to practice, take a test and get a license that must be renewed every few years. And we pretty much need a license to vote in Idaho too. Is it too much to ask for someone to take a serious look at people who are buying instruments of death, make sure they can shoot safely and do that every few years or before each proposed Civil War or Revolution?

Yea, we're not afraid of those guns; just the crazies that think they need to be armed at all times; just when crazies with extreme anger issues have access to guns; just when the people with guns start preaching about going to war against brothers, sisters, neighbors and others who they have a philosophical difference; and the crazies that shoot signs along the roads; and the beer guzzling target shooters.

The research has been accomplished Boys. The Republicans are scared. Don't worry, that's not a war starting; it's our popcorn popping.

A local Republican told the editor of the newspaper this; * Republicans were elected into power for one reason and one reason only: TO STOP OBAMA * and stop mistakes like OBAMAcare; hate the President much Boys?

Talking about mistakes or maybe scary releases of Republican misinformation here are a few proclamations; proclamations Republicans made and are still proclaiming in many cases.

# ObamaCare has death panels.

# ObamaCare will turn the country into a communist state.

# Muslims are exempt from ObamaCare.

# All non-USA citizens, illegal or not will be given and in some cases forced to participate in ObamaCare.

# ObamaCare includes a 4% sales tax on all real estate transactions.

The research has been done Boys; despite the misinformation smear campaign, ObamaCare is succeeding and Obama is still moving this country forward. And the only plan the Republicans have is to stop Obama? How's that different than the plan you Boys had for the last 6 years; How's that plan been working for you.

Pop the popcorn and melt the butter; the Republicans are here to entertain us for the next 2 years. Let those freedom fries fry and Jihad on Boys.

let freedom fries fry?......Jihad on boys?.....The troll poking the bull. After doing that for so long, one is likely to get the horn. This show is much better than "Survivor"!

The Republicans have been promising; or threatening us with a Revolution; A Civil War; an investigation into who we are; ruin our business; all that for awhile now.

It appears we have a new Republican happy and cheerful wish for us;

* one is likely to get the horn *

Freedom fries fry in a free country Boys and so does your new promise of the Republican Jihad; extra butter anyone?

John Boehner finally found a lawyer to sue the president, Jonathan Turley. Of course, Turley has tried this before. The Supreme Court through it out because of a lack of standing.

You see when the legislature has a way to change a behavior through legislation then they apparently aren't able to pick up their ball and go running to the Supreme Court. Congress isn't acting, so they need to make themselves more effective rather than running to the Supreme Court.

Again, most liberal aren't afraid of guns. The worrisome situation unfolds like a TV show portraying the following;

** The man identified as the shooter who opened fire in the Florida State University library was a former prosecutor who descended into paranoia and recently posted on Facebook about being 'encouraged by your handler to kill.' ... Police say the 31-year-old was 'in a state of crisis' and believed he was being targeted by the government. **

The research has been done and we know the above situation actually happened in Florida; that's in the USA Boys. We can easily see this scenario playing out here in Idaho after reading what our local Republicans write about on this webpage. FEMA Camps; Obama coming to get your guns; Republican were elected only TO STOP OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRATS; ring any of your freedom bells Boys?

The Republicans are quite confusing these days. They get all slobbering mad and outraged when;

# Obama delays a part of ObamaCare the Republicans hate; dislike, whine about as being communistic.

# Obama didn't have an immigration bill passed and signed during his first year in office as promised. The immigration reform these same Republicans are now threatening to impeach Obama for.

The research has been done Boys; The Republicans have chased their "We Hate Obama" tails for so long and so viciously logic has been replaced by the amusing sounds of babbling and confused sobbing; Buck up Boys; you can always change things with that promised Civil War. Dry the tears and get back in the kitchen frying up those freedom fries.

The Facts: CoolBreeze your ENTIRE post was plagiarized from extreme right wing web sites,who lifted it from some unknown source. It does not appear to be printed on any credible news source. It is not a Fact Check but political propaganda.

I told you that if you tried posting something like this we would have to laugh at you and it won't be an effeminate little "lol".

HA, HA, HA. Not even a nice try!

STOP THE NAME CALLING.

thank you.

That is interesting Stranded Ranger that he is supposedly in negotiations to resign. I wonder if he is trying to negotiate a break from the prosecutor in regards to the Grand Jury deliberations?

On another subject, Mitt Romney, is pushing for not ruling out boots on the ground and saying that we should have kept our soldiers in Iraq. Ironically Mitt Romney's father didn't server in the military, nor did Mitt or his siblings nor did any of Mitt's six sons. I guess those aren't Romney boots that will be on the ground in the Middle East.

70 percent of American's do not want what Romney wants.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/16/romney-islamic-state_n_6167320.html?cps...

The Republicans haven't even taken control of the US Senate yet but that hasn't slowed down the push to change; change history and education so our children can be taught misinformation, tested on the information and sent out into the world; as the rest of the world snickers at them.

# Arizona was so scared of the word * abortion * they had to scratch out and cut out the scary word from high school biology books.

# In Texas new textbooks include passages that suggest Moses influenced the writing of the Constitution and the roots of democracy can be found in the Old Testament. Scholars from across the country have said such claims are inaccurate and mislead students about the historical record.

The research is still being collected Boys; Dr Seuss, the Republican CEO of Education will be the final word on the coloring books that get published this January. Republican leadership will then have their talking points all laid out in Crayola Colors; hope the Republican base can follow along.

Let freedom fries fry and the Republican sleeping dogs lie.

The Republicans like to think of themselves in the image of our forefathers; taking up arms against King George; organized and unorganized militias; bearers of freedom; ready to stand and fight for their rights; stand against those who would do wrongs to and against Americans.

Why is it then that Republicans only threaten personal wars; threaten revolution; threaten to stand up against the government. Recent history has shown;

# Republican sponsored million man marches have fizzled.

# Is it possible last Tea Party Republican Million Man March on DC only drew 28 people? 6 were reported in attendance only to get some free iced tea; only to be disappointed.

While on the non-Republican side of non-violent revolution;

# "Occupy" protests; with demographics showing conservatives in attendance amounted to about 1% of the protesters; these protests had taken place or were ongoing in over 925 cities across 80 countries.

# The Arab Spring success in Africa encompassed many millions of revolutionaries and many different countries looking for, and demanding change.

Recently Republicans have publicly labeled our neighbors to the south as an illiterate and lazy people; think Senator Bachman; now we see the Mexicans doing what?

# Tens of thousands of citizen in Mexico City protesting government corruption.

The research has been done Boys; they say they want change and they say they are willing to do what it takes; but these same Republicans can't manage to gather 30 people together; unless it's a gathering to pray to a god they say will destroy the USA for certain sins.

Get those freedom fries frying Boys; We're enjoying the pre-game show Republicans are putting on for the world to watch.

No sooner did the Republicans predict * immigration post-executive order riots and anarchy * than we see the widespread damage and streets packed with protesters. The Republicans were right to a certain degree;

http://www.argusleader.com/story/jonathanellis/2014/11/20/one-man-protest-agains...

You Boys still have Benghazi to protest about too. Civil War on Boys.

Cool Breeze, you seem to be a couple of days behind on this. Let me try to get you up to speed.

"John Boehner finally found a lawyer to sue the president, Jonathan Turley. Of course, Turley has tried this before. The Supreme Court through it out because of a lack of standing.

You see when the legislature has a way to change a behavior through legislation then they apparently aren't able to pick up their ball and go running to the Supreme Court. Congress isn't acting, so they need to make themselves more effective rather than running to the Supreme Court." -- Posted by Sam_1776 on Thu, Nov 20, 2014, at 1:37 PM

Taking the Republicans seriously is getting harder each year; on this day in 2013 a Republican "seriously" posted the following

** My last post forever on this blog:

-- Posted by CoolBreeze83647 on Sat, Nov 23, 2013, at 9:23 AM **

The words have been posted Boys; we seriously think the Republican Party is confused about most things including the true meaning of * forever *; Civil War on forever Boys and keep the freedom fries frying forever.

Cool Breeze, I see that your answer to a valid point is to not to present a valid argument but go for an Ad Hominem argument, the second lowest on Graham's Hierarchy of Argument.

In order to try to raise the discussion to a higher level, I'll repeat the hierarchy for you.

DH0. Name-calling. This is what you use when you have nothing else.

DH1. Ad Hominem. This is a weak argument where instead of arguing against what was said you attack the author.

DH2. Arguing against the tone of the argument rather than the argument yourself.

DH3. Contradiction. Presenting contradictory facts while ignoring the argument.

DH4. Counterargument is DH3 with some evidence thrown in.

DH5. Refutation. You quote part of what was said and then refute it, but stopping short of refuting the main point(s).

DH6. Refuting the Central Point. This is the best thing to use.

So it looks like, Cool Breeze, you have no point to make except the statement that you are now the self appointed grammar checker of the blogs. Those of us that use our own words rather than plagiarizing the words of others do stand more of a risk of making a grammar or spelling error, so have fun, while others on the blog discuss the issues.

For those on the blog interested in the ISSUES, I read an interesting article on the Republican response to Obama's proposed immigration reform. The Republicans, except for the Tea Party, seem to have caught on that threatening to impeach the President or shutdown the government just makes Republican's look bad. Some Republicans are seeing the immigration reform as an opportunity to begin passing legislation on immigration. What a concept!

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/11/the-anxieties-of-the-gop-majority-113113.h...

Another plagiarized comment from you Cool Breeze? Putting the source of the words at the bottom of your post without pulling quotes around the words that weren't yours is plagiarism.

I recommend that you read the definition of plagiarism very slowly or very quickly or at whatever pace that you need to understand that you need to give credit to other people's words.

You seem to be a real light weight in being able to discuss political issues. Try to up your game a little.

The Republicans insist on a daily basis they are not scientists; but they act like astronomers; degreed astronomers; highly degreed astronomers; With all the talk of the sky falling and running around like a chicken with its head cut-off; they must be astronomers. Republicans all majored in Conspiracy Astronomy maybe?

# The sky is falling ObamaCare Death Panels; but the sky didn't really fall did it Boys.

# Benghazi and Obama, Clinton; but the sky didn't really fall did it Boys.

# 2009 to Present Day Obama Shredding the Constitution; but the sky didn't really fall did it Boys.

# Ebola is going to kill everybody in the USA; but the sky didn't really fall did it Boys.

# 12 year old Hispanic ISIS Army warriors are streaming across our borders; but the sky didn't really fall did it Boys.

# Obama coming to pry those guns out of your hands; but the sky didn't really fall did it Boys.

# Boston Marathon Bomber and the Saudi connection; but the sky didn't really fall did it Boys.

# Obama and Billions of piles of ammo; but the sky didn't really fall did it Boys.

Maybe the Republicans aren't astronomers or scientists after all; maybe they are just plump little headless chickens with very bad eyesight. We're sure there will be more crazy * the sky is falling * Republican Conspiracies coming soon; "cry wolf" much, Boys? Let those freedom fries fry.

Stranded Ranger, the Republicans, in particular the Tea Party Republicans that like to post video excerpts to take things out of context will try to make Gruber seem more than he is.

To them, I just have to say HA, HA, HA, try to find a real issue to whine about!

Well, I'm sure nobody has time to provide a reality check on Cool Breeze's latest cut and paste from MoneyNews which is a part of NewsMax.

According to Rational Wiki:

"NewsMax is a conservative Republican-oriented global news portal, whose website, Newsmax.com, has more than 13 million readers a month. It is run by wingnut hack and conspiracy theorist Christopher Ruddy.

Newsmax principally lives on the Internet on news site sidebars. Its website is dominated by shock news, moral outrage, conspiracies, and trashy advertising for dubious "get rich quick" schemes, quack medicines/workout programmes, and publications that feature ads for similar products. Some of this is regurgitated monthly in print form, though is seldom seen at news stands.

Newsmax is popular with the type of people who read WorldNetDaily; both outlets feature similar world views of a idealised conservative God-fearing America besieged by godless libruls, filthy sodomites, evil terrorists, and diseased illegal aliens. However, they managed to even out-wingnut WND when one of their contributors called on the military to overthrow Obama in a coup, saying that it would "restore and defend the Constitution." Yes, removing a President elected by the largest margin in decades and replacing him with a junta would restore the Constitution.

Distinguished contributors to Newsmax include David Limbaugh (brother of Rush), Michael Reagan (the adopted son of Saint Ronnie), "Doctor" Laura Schlessinger, and (quack) Doctor Russell Blaylock.

They'll also spend some time now and again giving airtime to bunk medicine, like chelation therapy.

They conducted an interview with Pat Buchanan about a book he wrote complaining that America has become less white and Christian, the interviewer taking him very seriously."

The Republicans want to be known as intelligent? We think they are approaching that goal. Every time people expose the Republican misinformation campaign on this webpage they try to bury those posts with longer and longer cut and paste articles. Smart but not effective against the sane and educated.

The research has been done Boys; the Republicans can only hide their lies, misinformation and fears from people not willing to scroll that extra mile; we know the group those old and tired fingers belong to don't we?

Civil War on Boys; The popcorn is just starting to pop.

The Republicans tell us we can't and shouldn't believe economic and employment numbers from the US Government. Now we can't and shouldn't believe polling numbers; the Republicans tell us we should bury our heads in the sand when the numbers aren't to the Tea Party's liking; is that a good way to live life?

The research has been done; the Republicans discount any research that proves them wrong; the earth isn't flat but Republicans seem to think it is. Civil War on Boys; it's all you have left.

Cool Breeze, in regards to your comment which I've pasted below let me say this.

You are incorrect that my response was a DH1. Ad Hominem. It was a DH3. Contradiction. Presenting contradictory facts while ignoring the argument. I clearly ignored the content of your long winded cut and paste from the extreme right web site, and instead provided information on the credibility of that web site.

Also, your response combined a DH0 - Name calling and DH1 - Ad Hominem. You are welcome for the Learning assistance that I am providing you.

"Sam,

Using your own DH's that you fell in love with for a few days, you are guilty of:

DH1. Ad Hominem. This is a weak argument where instead of arguing against what was said you attack the author. Clearly, you are attempting to attack Newsmax rather than the scientific data they reported.

So much for your hypocrisy, Gruber person." -- Posted by CoolBreeze83647 on Mon, Nov 24, 2014, at 7:44 PM

It's trending Boys; the Republicans tell us not to believe the numbers, the polls, the people and now the experts. The "we're not scientists political party" says this?

* Especially since those "scientists" you so revere have no idea what is truly going on. *

The research has been done Boys; when a group of people tell you scientists are ignorant and not to be believed; then say the Republicans, without real facts and data, should be considered the experts? The Misinformation Train has been resurrected in Mountain Home; Choo choo Boys and keep on frying those freedom fries.

Cool Breeze claims that someone is "stealing" money from the tax payers, a false and misleading premise and then asks people to justify why that is good.

HA, HA, HA! What a waste of time. He will use the talking points of the Extreme Right, who have their information fed to them by the Oil Companies to bury his head in the sand and pretend that the science of Climate Change is wrong. And then he calls other people stupid. Well I guess he should have a good, personal, idea of what stupid is.

By the way Cool Breeze, why do you consistently call Stranded Ranger by other names than his name? Is there some point in doing that?

Bitterness comes in many forms when you are a Republican. Obama has been indicating he will take action on immigration reform for many, many months. The Republicans have been just as vocal saying they will not address immigration reform. The Republican could have avoided executive orders but they chose to "not do", as usual; so they could be bitter? Republicans are only happy when bitter and poll numbers show the USA is divided.

The research has been accomplished; Obama did what he said he was going to do and now the Republicans are outraged, bitter, impeaching mad and very happy. The Party of:

# "rather sue than do"

# "manufacture outrage rather than lead"

# "not wanting to be the party of stupid but can't help themselves"

The next two years of Republican leadership, with the Religious Right being their guiding light, will be fun to watch. By 2016 the whole Republican Party will be in tatters; fighting the democrats, the tea party, the libertarians, their only growing base of senior citizens and the most amusing, fighting *reality* but losing.

Only a Civil War, more bitterness and misinformation can make the Republican happy. Fry those funky Freedom Fries Boys.

My post seems to have been deleted. I didn't call anybody names, use any bad words, so I'm not sure why. I'd like to try this one again again from the NRDC.

"Climate change is changing our economy, health and communities in diverse ways. Scientists warn that if we do not aggressively curb climate change now, the results will likely be disastrous.

The Basics

Carbon dioxide and other global warming pollutants are collecting in the atmosphere like a thickening blanket, trapping the sun's heat and causing the planet to warm up.

Although local temperatures fluctuate naturally, over the past 50 years the average global temperature has increased at the fastest rate in recorded history. Scientists say that unless we curb the emissions that cause climate change, average U.S. temperatures could be 3 to 9 degrees higher by the end of the century.

The United States Global Change Research Program (which includes the Department of Defense, NASA, National Science Foundation and other government agencies) has said that "global warming is unequivocal and primarily human-induced" and that "climate changes are underway in the United States and are projected to grow."

http://www.nrdc.org/globalwarming/climatebasics.asp

On your references, Cool Breeze:

1. http://www.cfif.org/htdocs/legislative_i... - this is clearly a Tea Party site.

2. http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/press/... this is a science denier site

3. http://www.travelerstoday.com/articles/1... - the article references NewsMax the extreme right wing site discussed previously as not credible.

4. http://blog.heartland.org/2014/03/a-hist... - this is a blog from a extreme right wing organization.

5. The WSJ article was co-written by the president of the above heartland.org and Roy Spencer referred to by Sceptical Science as a Climate Misinformer.

6. http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com/2014/0... - This one is really ridiculous. It is the above mentioned WSJ article written by the president of the above heartland.org

Like I said Cool Breeze, you get your information from extreme right wing web sites who get their information from the oil companies. You also apparently get it from science misinformers who probably are paid by the oil companies.

Your links were as ridiculous as your wild claims.

Clearly, Cool Breeze you are struggling with the concept of the DH0, etc. rules of arguments. Let me make it easy for you.

When you have to resort to name calling, you have already lost the argument. I am speaking of Gruber 1., Gruber 2., etc. and other Gruber like names for people that disagree with you.

You are clearly wasting people's time, because you are not up to a real discussion. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Stranded Ranger, I saw your comments on Obama's actions on immigration. There is an article in "The Atlantic" about this in regards to "American Exceptionalism".

One of the many tenets of American Exceptionalism was the belief that Americans can move up the social ladder from being very poor to being part of the middle class, or even wealthy. With the millions of aliens we have a "caste" of people in the United States who are at the bottom and very likely to stay there. They can't leave jobs for better jobs because they may be discovered to be an illegal alien.

The Atlantic makes the point that by making them legal then American Exceptionalism wins and they can move ahead. It even opens the door for them becoming citizens, which is not easy to do.

Not mentioned is that they can start paying taxes, and getting insurance, becoming less of a burden on society.

I agree with the President's move. He has been heckled by people who don't think that he has done enough however, he probably went as far as the Constitution allows.

You are right, that these are potential Democrats, after they get citizenship and which party will they be grateful to on that? If things continue as they do it will be the Democrats. Time for Republicans to get on the right side of history.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/11/obamas-immigration-order-a-v...

Rumblings among Republican Leadership;

* The Republicans will disinvite Obama from the State of the Union Address? *

To even think about not allowing Obama to address the nation reeks of fear; extreme fear; crazy, insane fear; terrified of a speech by the President of the USA.

Pass the popcorn; The Republican Clown Car is charged up. Can you smell it Boys? The smell of fear and freedom fries is in the air?

Republicans have been clear with their amusing brand of misinformation* knowledge, facts and truths *; yes, they have been saying for years undocumented immigrants have been and still are voting in the USA in large numbers. Fun conspiracy to propagate but backed up by zero facts.

The newest and most fun Republican conspiracy is the Democrat's immigration reform policy is only to gain more votes. Again, zero facts but certainly easy to trick their base into believing this terrifying sky is falling, cry wolf scenario.

On this day of Thanksgiving; a day when undocumented immigrants sat at the same table to enjoyed the company of the citizens of this bountiful land almost 400 years ago; the present day Republicans would much prefer to spread misinformation than happiness; then again we know the only time Republicans can be happy is when they are angry and bitter.

Happy Thanksgiving CoolBreeze; here's to hoping your god doesn't destroy the USA today for allowing families to stay together "threw" executive orders.

Knowing God to be a just god, I'm amazed that He is not striking people dumb for all of the lying that occurs from the ultra right conservatives. Oh, wait! I think that maybe he already struck them dumb!

Oh, too bad Cool Breeze!

The Republicans say * shame on you for being on welfare * as recipients may collect more money than minimum wage workers.

The Republicans are opposed to raising minimum wage and many want to do away with it or lower the minimum wage.

The Republicans have a plan; do the research? Boys, it's been done over and over. The Republicans believe starvation and homelessness is acceptable in the greatest nation in the world; not only acceptable they must pray each Sunday in their churches that poor people remain poor, uneducated and disadvantaged; sounds quite Pakistanish and ISIS to us; the christian doctrine must be confusing to the Republicans.

Greatest nations in the world can easily be turned into a theocratic society boys but only that Revolution, a shredded US Constitution and Civil War can create that society you want so badly. Freedom Fries for the rich and shredding machines for the Republican Leadership. Choo choo Boys

Cool Breeze when cutting and pasting from JoeforAmerica, fails to let us in on two facts.

1. The Cato study from 2013 was paid for by the Koch brothers.

2. It was debunked shortly after it came out.

According to Forbes:

"The problem is, based on the shocking bogus methodology utilized by the study--a methodology that could only have been chosen to achieve a desired result--the claim turns out to be complete, unadulterated nonsense easily disproven through a modicum of effort and understanding no more than the basics of how welfare works and who receives the benefits.

As is so often the case when being presented with studies designed from their inception to prove a pre-determined result, the twist that gives rise to the exciting headlines comes in how the data is crafted, massaged and mangled to serve the objective of the authors.

The Cato Institute claim is no exception as this latest document of deceit stands as a shining monument to how think tanks are willing to pay good money to produce a certain skew--no matter how false the methodology required to achieve an intended result may be."

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2013/09/03/the-conservative-case-for-welfa...

Cool Breeze why do you keep trying to slip bogus facts on people or is it true that God hath struck you dumb and you can't tell fact from fiction?

Cool Breeze when you post information which has been debunked a year ago, I must again laugh at your feeble attempts to revive it as new and valid news.

I also see that calling people Gruber, is your new word of the day that you just can't seem to resist using. Like I said, when you've resorted to name calling you've already lost the argument.

On the topic of climate change and the client deniers, Huffington posted information that fed off a "The Hill" story about a group of lobbyists', part of the IER, which was working on stopping a bill on a carbon task.

According to Huffing, "The Hill story, however, merely described IER as a "conservative" group. That doesn't explain why a think tank named the Institute for Energy Research is so dead set against a carbon tax, given the initiative would certainly help some energy technologies, especially wind, solar and other renewables.

So why is IER so down on cutting carbon?

Because it's backed by the fossil fuel industry, that's why.

The Koch Connection

Over the last decade or so, IER and AEA have received hundreds of thousands of dollars from ExxonMobil; the American Petroleum Institute (API), the oil and gas industry's trade association; the Center to Protect Patient Rights, a secretive nonprofit group linked to Charles Koch and his brother David, the billionaire owners of the coal, oil and gas behemoth Koch Industries; and the Charles Koch-controlled Claude R. Lambe Charitable Foundation, one of a handful of Koch family funds.

Top IER-AEA officials also are well-entrenched members of the Koch brothers' climate change contrarian network."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elliott-negin/koch-funded-climate-contr_b_3620727....

Yes, just look under your comment. There were some good sources from Stranded Ranger too. Do a search for Sam, Stranded Ranger, Sara, Dave, and others and you will find accurate information.

Try to avoid the garbage links from Cool Breeze and Moral Majority. That is just the Tea Party dogma.

I took a look at your comment about me when you said "you're now seen as just a nattering nabob". I was quite surprised that even as an intended insult the word nabob totally didn't apply. A nabob is a synonym for a very rich person, and comes originally from a Muslim word.

So I looked up the words together and the only thing that came close was Spiro Agnew who was known for his use or misuse of uncommon words to insult others. In this case the words were actually written for him by William Saffire who worked for Nixon's White House.

The phrase that he used was "nattering nabobs of negativism" and he was talking about the press. Agnew said during Watergate:

"In the United States today, we have more than our share of the nattering nabobs of negativism. They have formed their own 4-H Club -- the 'hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history.'"

http://politicaldictionary.com/words/nattering-nabobs-of-negativism/

I thought it might be helpful for you to see where your phrase came from.

So it sounds like you didn't know what nabob meant and so are now lying about your reason for calling me that to avoid admitting that.

I'm sorry Cool Breeze but your little excuse that you wanted to call me something that you think that I want to be thought of got quite a chuckle around here. When you make a mistake you should fess up, or risk ridicule.

Get married or something already.

Robert Bradley Jr. writes for the Koch brothers and Big Oil which he has worked in for 16 years.

This is what NASA provides as evidence of climate change.

http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

Poor Cool Breeze, can't argue with NASA can you?

Yes, Cool Breeze, your extreme right wing web sites are CLAIMING that NASA had fraudulent data however no reputable site is, or for that matter anyone else.

Keep trying. I just wish that we could get a conservative on this blog to debate issues and not someone that just references extreme Right Wing dogma. Then we would ignore you and actually do a reasonable debate of the issues using actual facts.

That's what our forefathers did. There was a lot less lying then. Too bad.

Nice attempt to fool people Cool Breeze for posting an out of context quote. I read the entire article which concludes with the below statement that is in quotes. The out of context quote, written in 1999 BTW, is an explanation of why up to that time the United States was warming at a slower speed than the rest of the world.

"In the meantime, we can venture two "predictions" on "whither U.S. climate". First, regarding U.S. temperature, we have argued (Hansen et al., 1999a) that the next decade will be warmer than the 1990s, rivaling if not exceeding the 1930s. The basis for that prediction is the expectation of continued greenhouse warming and probable slackening of regional ocean cooling. Second, regarding precipitation and drought, even without analysis of regional patterns of change, we can offer the probabilistic statement that the frequencies of both extremes, heavy precipitation and floods on the one hand and droughts and forest fires on the other, will increase with increasing global temperature. The rationale for this (Hansen et al., 1991) is that increased surface heating increases evaporation, and this increases the intensity of both precipitation and drought conditions where and when they occur.

More quantitative predictions should be possible soon based on global climate models and satellite observations. Model runs for the past 50 years suggest that it is possible to simulate regional climate trends realistically. Simulations for the future will depend upon estimates of trends in climate forcings derived from global satellite observations and analyses."

http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/briefs/hansen_07/

If you weren't trying to fool people and were just too stupid or lazy to read the full article than I apologize for doubting your honesty.

New Definitions have apparently been generated for the political blog by Cool Breeze.

Nattering - Exposing false information by providing full and factual information.

Nabob - Someone who may be giving Cool Breeze a sense of inferiority.

Gruber - Someone that disagrees with Cool Breeze

Cool Breeze, put on your spectacles and re-read my first paragraph. I found your out of context sentence and put in a link to the entire article, including a summary from the article.

You know, what you like to call nattering: Exposing false information by providing full and factual information. I've nicely provided definitions for your name calling in the post below.

Again, put on your spectacles or have someone read this to you. Sigh! I'll capitalize the part that you seemed to miss and provide additional explanations.

I FOUND YOUR OUT OF CONTEXT SENTENCE - this means that I did a search to find the source of your misleading sentence which is was only misleading because it was out of context.

AND PUT IN A LINK TO THE ENTIRE ARTICLE - this means that people could then read the entire article and at least where the sentence came from and why it was misleading. They could also learn a lot about global warming.

INCLUDING A SUMMARY FROM THE ARTICLE - this means that the reader could then understand what the article was about without have to read the entire article.

Again, using your definition for name calling I was doing nattering: Exposing false information by providing full and factual information.

You bore me. Other people seem to understand simple concepts and you either can't understand them or are lying about the fact that you do understand them. You pick. Are you stupid, a liar, or both? I have my opinion on that.

Your excerpt came from the link that I posted. Do your own reading. I have no time to repeatedly explain simple concepts.

http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/briefs/hansen_07/

For others reading this, there is information from NASA or information from extreme right wing web sites, paid for by the oil companies and/or the Koch brothers. Which can be relied upon?

I wish Sara was posting on the Political Forum because I have news on the preparation for the great new Civil War where the Tea Party Americans will fix the wagons of liberals, minorities, and/or educated fact seeking people.

Smith and Wesson is having a big drop in sales. I wonder what new scare tactic the NRA is going to come up with to boost sales?

http://fortune.com/2014/12/04/smith-wesson-misfire-rifle-sales-drop-50/

No Quarter, by your choice of link, and your misspelled comment then I'd have to assume that you are Moral majority, returned from a long and welcome absence.

If you listen to the video, when the mayor of the small town in Louisiana makes his suggestion, there are roars of laughter from the crowd. That is obviously a joke.

Good news on the economy. The number of jobs increased in November much more than forecasted and stocks are up. Wages have stayed pretty much the same, except that the higher paying jobs had more increases than the lower paying jobs, such as retail jobs and fast food jobs.

http://bloomberg.econoday.com/byshoweventfull.asp?fid=461125&cust=bloomberg-us&y...

NoQuarter, so when does your big revolution start?

Your web site is a joke. The Southern Poverty Law Center considers it to be a hate group.

Along with the excellent economic news about jobs creation in November, there is also good news about the acceptance of the Affordable Care Act, according to a recent Gallup poll.

"Before passing the ACA, the large majority of Americans who had health insurance were broadly satisfied with their medical care and coverage and their healthcare costs. Thus, a major test of the ACA will be whether it succeeds in expanding affordable healthcare to the previously uninsured while doing "no harm" to the large majority of Americans who are already highly satisfied with their healthcare coverage. So far, the verdict is positive. Gallup finds no decrease in insured Americans' satisfaction with their healthcare services and their costs. At the same time, the uninsured are as negative as ever, but their numbers have dwindled. Gallup's annual November updates of these trends will monitor whether this positive outcome persists as implementation of the ACA progresses."

http://www.gallup.com/poll/179903/aca-takes-effect-majority-personal-health-cost...

Anyone hoping for dismal news on this is bound to be very disappointed.

I'm not TRYING to say anything. I am saying now that I don't choose to respond to every ridiculous claim coming from extreme right wing web sites, particularly one that is a well known hate group web site.

This shows what some police think about the Garner choke hold killing and aftermath. It seems that a reporter was monitoring the policeone.com web site and saw a frank discussion.

Posted by SURVIVAL on Thursday, December 04, 2014 01:21 AM Pacific Report Abuse

What choke hold? You mean the attempted "Carotid Restraint Hold" that lasted for several seconds on "Fatso" the walking heart attack? He killed himself by getting so worked up over refusing to follow simple and lawful commands. Shame on NYPD for prohibiting such an effective control hold in the first place. The carotid has saved many of my arrestees and me further injury plenty of times.

To the criminals in protest,don't break the law and do what the authorities tell you to do. Statutorily or Biblically, it's all there in black and white print..."Do what is right and obey the peace keepers

posted by djbadback on Thursday, December 04, 2014 00:08 AM Pacific Report Abuse

He was able to breathe enough to talk, so having sufficient air doesn't seem to be a problem after all.

Just another criminal caught in the middle of committing a crime.

Eric Garner is (WAS) 6'4" and weighed 400 lbs. Instead of suing the police department, his family should sue Papa Johns, Dominos, Pizza Hut, Burger King, McDonalds, etc.......

Posted by ironclad983 on Thursday, December 04, 2014 04:24 PM Pacific Report Abuse

Not guilty! Do any of these protesters have jobs, because I want a job that lets me not come in so I can protest about something that I clearly dont understand! Lazy, Jobless, drains on society.

Posted by JackC on Thursday, December 04, 2014 03:21 PM Pacific Report Abuse

The liberal progressives in this country elected to office did so by catering to the anti-police and siding with them. So with that said you cannot expect any understanding of police tactics to keep the officer safe. They are not realists.

With that said we have to show more understanding of the progressive liberals and the other anti police. Be sensitive to their grievences, demands and wishes.

Do nothing and do it well. The new form of proactive policing.

You can't save people who don't want to be saved.

Posted by piecebwithu on Thursday, December 04, 2014 06:49 AM Pacific Report Abuse

Oh, and the mayor of New York equated this incident to "centuries of racism" that has occurred in this country. This, I'm not being sarcastic about. He really said it

Posted by Aviano25 on Thursday, December 04, 2014 06:48 AM Pacific Report Abuse

Every news channel is covering this incident...almost all; except, foxnews is against law enforcement. Lets start with changing the news media. Make it a law they cannot lie or make up stories as they go long. If so, FCC revokes their license. Then lets throw everyone out of office that can't see the real story right in front of them. Mr President this is not a Federal Government issue, (EXPLETIVE DELETED)

Posted by Wasafuzz on Thursday, December 04, 2014 00:49 AM Pacific Report Abuse

Once again! Eric Holder to the rescue of his fellow African American criminal Eric Garner, now he's spoken with Obama and they will sick the Feds on the officer now with the federal civil rights investigation.

@SAPDMAS both of my sons have entered police work recently, I tried my hardest to keep them out this career. It use to be a very honorable profession where you were respected but no more. I pray they reconsider and get out of it.

Posted by slim1899 on Thursday, December 04, 2014 06:26 AM Pacific Report Abuse

If you can talk you can breathe. Lets stop making excuses for criminal behavior because they are black. This guy would have died going up a flight of stairs. His diet killed him. The real victims are these poor Officers who's lives are destroyed because everyone is too afraid to speak the truth. These were bad guys, doing bad things. No one cares what color they were except the racist liberals.

Posted by Muckers35 on Thursday, December 04, 2014 03:31 AM Pacific Report Abuse

It's going to be a long 19 years to retirement...we can only pray that we never have to do the RIGHT thing and still be thrown under the bus like we are the thugs...society is backwards..be careful brothers and my prayers are with you all...

Posted by SAPDMAS on Wednesday, December 03, 2014 08:27 PM Pacific Report Abuse

People are sick and tired of thugs. Certain people better wake the (EXPLETIVE DELETED)up and stop supporting the thugs. 2 years 1 month before the head thug gets thrown out and hopefully a real POTUS gets elected.

Posted by VON1 on Wednesday, December 03, 2014 08:37 PM Pacific Report Abuse

Ok ladies and gentleman we all agree this a good day for cops in use of force incidents.

Very happy for the outcome for sure.

The man should not have resisted.

Somehow I'm hearing this song," put another log on the fire "

Watch your backs out there. Oh your fronts and sides too. Going to get nasty. Unless of course they let us do our job kick some thug (EXPLETIVE DELETED).

The torture report, at least the unclassified version of it was release. Under Bush the CIA tortured prisoners, lied about how much they were doing it, and what's more the torture didn't even work.

There are some, like myself, that hope that the discussion of this will lead to the Guantanamo prisoners release.

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/12/09/senate-releases-highly-anticipate...

More good economic news. In addition to the economic indicator that there are more people with jobs, there is the indicator of the number of job openings. This is at a 13-year high.

"The number of job openings in the United States rose to a near 13-year high in October, a hopeful sign for the U.S. economy and labor market.

Employers outside of the farming sector had 4.83 million jobs waiting to be filled during the month, up from 4.69 million in September, the Labor Department said on Tuesday.

Job openings across the U.S. economy have increased sharply since April, and the number of open slots in October was just shy of the 4.85 million jobs available in August, which was the highest reading since 2001.

While employers haven't been as quick to actually fill those openings, the increase in postings in recent months has coincided with other positive economic news that has made analysts more confident the economy is accelerating."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/09/us-usa-economy-jolts-idUSKBN0JN1RZ2014...

The report released today didn't contain classified information. Snowden released classified information. That's a big difference if you want to call someone a traitor.

The world already knew that we were torturing prisoners. Now we've admitted that we did, said it was wrong and are saying that we should never do that again. This is a step in the right direction.

NoQuarter, I hate to break it to you but you posted a link from a satire page from the New Yorker. The satire has a picture of Obama meeting with Prince William. It is a hilarious article so I'll paste the whole thing below.

Fox: Obama Seeks Advice on Establishing Monarchy

By Andy Borowitz

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)--President Barack Obama spent several hours on Monday in a closed-door Oval Office meeting seeking advice on how to establish a monarchy, Fox News reports.

According to Fox, the President peppered his Oval Office guest with detailed questions about the mechanics of setting up a monarchy and was curious about the perks and powers that go along with it.

Obama's guest advised him that establishing a monarchy would probably require rewriting or even replacing the Constitution, an option that Obama reportedly said would be "difficult, but doable."

Introducing a note of caution, the guest urged the President to alter the Constitution so that it vested the monarch with genuine power, adding, "You don't want to wind up being a figurehead who just goes around visiting foreign dignitaries and so forth."

According to the Fox report, the President came away "intrigued" by the meeting and said he would explore the idea further next week when Congress is on vacation.

Andy Borowitz is a New York Times best-selling author and a comedian who has written for The New Yorker since 1998. He writes the Borowitz Report for newyorker.com.

NoQuarter, you are getting your news from web sites that seldom tell the truth. Snopes, a respected fact checker has debunked the lies that are going around right wing web sites about Michael Brown's family.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/mcspadden.asp

In addition to that, why do you suppose no arrests were made by the police in the alleged incident, and no charges have been made? Because there is nothing to them.

I have to wonder why you have the need to APPARENTLY justify that Michael Brown deserved to die though trashing his family. This is very disturbing that someone would stoop to that low of a level.

No Quarter, you clearly didn't read the snopes article that I provided. The grandmother didn't raise him. Your FAV right wing sites are trashing a dead teenagers family probably to justify that it was okay for him to be murdered.

always right, factcheck.org has debunked your blog web site's claim. It is a viral fake news thing circulating among those that aren't able to tell the truth from a lie because they have been indoctrinated by the Tea Party. The lie was debunked in 2009.

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/04/snopescom/

Whenever Cool Breeze feels a little out numbered, I notice that someone shows up with a new name claiming that he or she has been reading the forums and blogs a lot and so know everything about what has been said. Then the person after a few days starts being really obnoxious. Congratulations you have revealed yourself right away.

Judging from your inability to produce factual information from a reputable web site, I'm guessing that you must be in the not in touch with reality label that you've created.

Here is an interesting report, speaking of being out of touch with reality, from No Quarter's apparently reliable source of information. Personally, I'd be wary of these Borowitz Reports. I've heard they are satire. I've cut and pasted it below.

Cheney Calls for International Ban on Torture Reports

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)--Former Vice-President Dick Cheney on Tuesday called upon the nations of the world to "once and for all ban the despicable and heinous practice of publishing torture reports."

"Like many Americans, I was shocked and disgusted by the Senate Intelligence Committee's publication of a torture report today," Cheney said in a prepared statement. "The transparency and honesty found in this report represent a gross violation of our nation's values."

"The publication of torture reports is a crime against all of us," he added. "Not just those of us who have tortured in the past, but every one of us who might want to torture in the future."

Saying that the Senate's "horrifying publication" had inspired him to act, he vowed, "As long as I have air to breathe, I will do everything in my power to wipe out the scourge of torture reports from the face of the Earth."

Cheney concluded his statement by calling for an international conference on the issue of torture reports. "I ask all the great nations of the world to stand up, expose the horrible practice of publishing torture reports, and say, 'This is not who we are,' " Cheney said.

Andy Borowitz is a New York Times best-selling author and a comedian who has written for The New Yorker since 1998. He writes the Borowitz Report for newyorker.com.

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/cheney-calls-international-ban-to...

Maybe always right should have a name change to always wrong considering the reliance on the Tea Party News.

Sam did you notice his use of the word parrot just like Cool Breeze? I think they must both be from a different country like Canada or England. As you know I've been working with Canadians lately.

Yes, Geordie, parrot is really an unusual expression. Most people know what it means, probably, but I've never ever heard an American use that expression.

Also what is this thing about "Good Day". We say Hello, Hi, Let me introduce myself, and so on but it is very British or Canadian to say "Good Day".

It's okay if Cool Breeze is from another country, I guess, except he or she isn't acting like that. On the other hand, it is odd that another supposedly separate person would have the same speech habits.

Maybe he or she is American but is an anglophile.

I doubt that you would be able to come up with a factual and logical discussion, "always right".

I watched Bill O'Reilly last night, and because I had the channel changed to Fox I unfortunately watched a part of Fox News this morning until reason and common sense took over. It was both surprising and hilarious.

On O'Reilly's show he had the two Fox News regular "news reporters" (women with frowny faces). He treated them like irresponsible teenagers and they acted like it. His behavior and theirs was very demeaning to women.

This morning Fox was still singing the same song as O'Reilly last night, which is that the torture information that was released was wrong, biased, and dangerous.

Amazing, how a pretend news station can try to change the news by repeating the same theme over and over. I can see how they can be a big influence on Tea Party types.

Sam maybe always right doesn't realize that just because he is on the forum to taunt doesn't mean that people need to respond? He might be always wrong. Wah!

I watch Fox News very rarely, and usually when I am visiting a family member. Some people in my family actually say things like "Fox News seems to make sense." These family members, I'm sorry to say, don't look at a variety of news sources so that they can tell better on what is true and what is a lie.

I think that other nicknames that their critiques have for them is more descriptive of their activities: Faux News, Faux Noise, Fixed News, Fox Opinion Channel and Minitrue.

It is very right wing and doesn't present the news honestly. If you aren't Christian they don't like you at all.

Hello again, Audi. The Senate released a torture report and every mainstream news agency called it that: "torture".

Fox New's headline though is: "Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogations amid security warnings".

No Quarter, John McCain a respected Republican senator who was tortured as a POW in the Vietnam war for years said this on the Senate Floor yesterday. (He disagrees with you, in case you don't want to read the whole thing.)

"Mr. President, I rise in support of the release -- the long-delayed release -- of the Senate Intelligence Committee's summarized, unclassified review of the so-called 'enhanced interrogation techniques' that were employed by the previous administration to extract information from captured terrorists. It is a thorough and thoughtful study of practices that I believe not only failed their purpose -- to secure actionable intelligence to prevent further attacks on the U.S. and our allies -- but actually damaged our security interests, as well as our reputation as a force for good in the world.

"I believe the American people have a right -- indeed, a responsibility -- to know what was done in their name; how these practices did or did not serve our interests; and how they comported with our most important values.

"I commend Chairman Feinstein and her staff for their diligence in seeking a truthful accounting of policies I hope we will never resort to again. I thank them for persevering against persistent opposition from many members of the intelligence community, from officials in two administrations, and from some of our colleagues.

"The truth is sometimes a hard pill to swallow. It sometimes causes us difficulties at home and abroad. It is sometimes used by our enemies in attempts to hurt us. But the American people are entitled to it, nonetheless.

"They must know when the values that define our nation are intentionally disregarded by our security policies, even those policies that are conducted in secret. They must be able to make informed judgments about whether those policies and the personnel who supported them were justified in compromising our values; whether they served a greater good; or whether, as I believe, they stained our national honor, did much harm and little practical good.

"What were the policies? What was their purpose? Did they achieve it? Did they make us safer? Less safe? Or did they make no difference? What did they gain us? What did they cost us? The American people need the answers to these questions. Yes, some things must be kept from public disclosure to protect clandestine operations, sources and methods, but not the answers to these questions.

"By providing them, the Committee has empowered the American people to come to their own decisions about whether we should have employed such practices in the past and whether we should consider permitting them in the future. This report strengthens self-government and, ultimately, I believe, America's security and stature in the world. I thank the Committee for that valuable public service.

"I have long believed some of these practices amounted to torture, as a reasonable person would define it, especially, but not only the practice of waterboarding, which is a mock execution and an exquisite form of torture. Its use was shameful and unnecessary; and, contrary to assertions made by some of its defenders and as the Committee's report makes clear, it produced little useful intelligence to help us track down the perpetrators of 9/11 or prevent new attacks and atrocities.

"I know from personal experience that the abuse of prisoners will produce more bad than good intelligence. I know that victims of torture will offer intentionally misleading information if they think their captors will believe it. I know they will say whatever they think their torturers want them to say if they believe it will stop their suffering. Most of all, I know the use of torture compromises that which most distinguishes us from our enemies, our belief that all people, even captured enemies, possess basic human rights, which are protected by international conventions the U.S. not only joined, but for the most part authored.

"I know, too, that bad things happen in war. I know in war good people can feel obliged for good reasons to do things they would normally object to and recoil from.

"I understand the reasons that governed the decision to resort to these interrogation methods, and I know that those who approved them and those who used them were dedicated to securing justice for the victims of terrorist attacks and to protecting Americans from further harm. I know their responsibilities were grave and urgent, and the strain of their duty was onerous.

"I respect their dedication and appreciate their dilemma. But I dispute wholeheartedly that it was right for them to use these methods, which this report makes clear were neither in the best interests of justice nor our security nor the ideals we have sacrificed so much blood and treasure to defend.

"The knowledge of torture's dubious efficacy and my moral objections to the abuse of prisoners motivated my sponsorship of the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005, which prohibits 'cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment' of captured combatants, whether they wear a nation's uniform or not, and which passed the Senate by a vote of 90-9.

"Subsequently, I successfully offered amendments to the Military Commissions Act of 2006, which, among other things, prevented the attempt to weaken Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions, and broadened definitions in the War Crimes Act to make the future use of waterboarding and other 'enhanced interrogation techniques' punishable as war crimes.

"There was considerable misinformation disseminated then about what was and wasn't achieved using these methods in an effort to discourage support for the legislation. There was a good amount of misinformation used in 2011 to credit the use of these methods with the death of Osama bin Laden. And there is, I fear, misinformation being used today to prevent the release of this report, disputing its findings and warning about the security consequences of their public disclosure.

"Will the report's release cause outrage that leads to violence in some parts of the Muslim world? Yes, I suppose that's possible, perhaps likely. Sadly, violence needs little incentive in some quarters of the world today. But that doesn't mean we will be telling the world something it will be shocked to learn. The entire world already knows that we water-boarded prisoners. It knows we subjected prisoners to various other types of degrading treatment. It knows we used black sites, secret prisons. Those practices haven't been a secret for a decade.

"Terrorists might use the report's re-identification of the practices as an excuse to attack Americans, but they hardly need an excuse for that. That has been their life's calling for a while now.

"What might come as a surprise, not just to our enemies, but to many Americans, is how little these practices did to aid our efforts to bring 9/11 culprits to justice and to find and prevent terrorist attacks today and tomorrow. That could be a real surprise, since it contradicts the many assurances provided by intelligence officials on the record and in private that enhanced interrogation techniques were indispensable in the war against terrorism. And I suspect the objection of those same officials to the release of this report is really focused on that disclosure -- torture's ineffectiveness -- because we gave up much in the expectation that torture would make us safer. Too much.

"Obviously, we need intelligence to defeat our enemies, but we need reliable intelligence. Torture produces more misleading information than actionable intelligence. And what the advocates of harsh and cruel interrogation methods have never established is that we couldn't have gathered as good or more reliable intelligence from using humane methods.

"The most important lead we got in the search for bin Laden came from using conventional interrogation methods. I think it is an insult to the many intelligence officers who have acquired good intelligence without hurting or degrading prisoners to assert we can't win this war without such methods. Yes, we can and we will.

"But in the end, torture's failure to serve its intended purpose isn't the main reason to oppose its use. I have often said, and will always maintain, that this question isn't about our enemies; it's about us. It's about who we were, who we are and who we aspire to be. It's about how we represent ourselves to the world.

"We have made our way in this often dangerous and cruel world, not by just strictly pursuing our geopolitical interests, but by exemplifying our political values, and influencing other nations to embrace them. When we fight to defend our security we fight also for an idea, not for a tribe or a twisted interpretation of an ancient religion or for a king, but for an idea that all men are endowed by the Creator with inalienable rights. How much safer the world would be if all nations believed the same. How much more dangerous it can become when we forget it ourselves even momentarily.

"Our enemies act without conscience. We must not. This executive summary of the Committee's report makes clear that acting without conscience isn't necessary, it isn't even helpful, in winning this strange and long war we're fighting. We should be grateful to have that truth affirmed.

"Now, let us reassert the contrary proposition: that is it essential to our success in this war that we ask those who fight it for us to remember at all times that they are defending a sacred ideal of how nations should be governed and conduct their relations with others -- even our enemies.

"Those of us who give them this duty are obliged by history, by our nation's highest ideals and the many terrible sacrifices made to protect them, by our respect for human dignity to make clear we need not risk our national honor to prevail in this or any war. We need only remember in the worst of times, through the chaos and terror of war, when facing cruelty, suffering and loss, that we are always Americans, and different, stronger, and better than those who would destroy us.

"Thank you."

It took years to carefully investigate it and write the report, and not include classified information. It was actually ready for months, but there were concerns about releasing it that had to be weighed.

According to a CBS interview, Feinstein said that she felt that the report needed to be released. She said "I realize the Senate changes leadership in January, and so the likelihood of the report coming out next year was slim and none, so we had a limited opportunity after five and a half years of work to get this out."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/dianne-feinstein-and-her-decision-to-release-the-tor...

The person that you called a RINO is a war hero that sacrificed more than you would even dream of sacrificing for his country.

Although I disagree with his politics, and some of his past actions I have a lot of respect for his courage and patriotism.

The timing was pretty clear. Just read the quote that I provided from Feinstein.

The United States has needed to take a position for a long time now that torture is not what we do. Good for Feinstein and good for McCain.

You should try not to hate so much No Quarter. It's bad for your health and is un-Christian.

Cool Breeze, here is something for you to remember, in regards to Obamas errors on the Bible.

1 "Do not judge, or you too will be judged.

2 "For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."

3 "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?" -- Mathew 7:1-3.

Oh and by the way these words will be different depending on the Bible used and the version of the Bible. Were you aware that the Christian Bible was first translated into English in 1611, ordered by King James to match the beliefs of the Church of England. It was translated from multiple languages including Arabic.

The story of Mary and Joseph seems very fitting. Obama didn't say that they were illegal immigrants he said that they were strangers in the land. Ancestral home or not, they apparently didn't know anyone that they could stay with, which is why they stayed in a manger.

Another interesting Borowitz article.

Republicans Accuse Obama of Treating Immigrants Like Humans

By Andy Borowitz

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)--In a sharp Republican rebuke to President Obama's proposed actions on immigration, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell accused the President, on Thursday night, of "flagrantly treating immigrants like human beings, in clear defiance of the wishes of Congress."

McConnell was brutal in his assessment of the President's speech on immigration, blasting him for "eliminating the fear of deportation, which is the great engine of the American economy."

"Fear is what keeps immigrants working so hard and so fast and so cheap," McConnell said. "Remove the fear of deportation, and what will immigrants become? Lazy Americans."

In a dire warning to the President, McConnell said, "If Mr. Obama thinks that, with the stroke of a pen, he can destroy the work ethic of millions of terrified immigrants, he's in for the fight of his life."

He added that Obama's comments about deporting felons were "deeply offensive" to political donors.

Andy Borowitz is a New York Times best-selling author and a comedian who has written for The New Yorker since 1998. He writes the Borowitz Report for newyorker.com.

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/republicans-accuse-obama-of-treat...

One of the Congressional Republican's big goals, beginning in January 2015 is getting rid of some environmental protection laws, specifically in regards to carbon in the atmosphere.

The bad news for the Republicans is that 6 out of 10 Americas, and 5 out of 10 Republicans support this regulation. The bad news for the environment, is that while people believe in Global Warming and think something needs to be done about it, it still has a low priority.

Huffington had a good discussion of this in the link below.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/12/republicans-carbon-limits_n_6313388.htm...

On the topic you were discussing before Sam, the torture report and how Fox News isn't calling it torture, as a matter of fact the new term is something like "Enhanced Interrogation Techniques".

Fox News is a well know Cheney supporter so they had him on for an easy interview about the torture and whether Bush knew about it. Fox seemed happy with everything Cheney said including saying that the end justifies the means, however, The Atlantic reported on the Fox News/Cheney interview.

The Atlantic said that Cheney lied. First Cheney said Bush knew all about what was done, and then when asked about a specific technique, involving psychological rape through a feeding tube, he claimed that he and Bush didn't know about that.

It will be interesting what Cheney will come up with on the week-end talk shows.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/12/fox-news-catches-dick-cheney...

A while back was it Sam or Sara referring to God as "your god" ?

Related to the topic of the torture report, Cheney, etc., Andy Borowitz had something apropos.

December 11, 2014

Cruz: Stop Blaming Bush for Things He Did

By Andy Borowitz

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)--Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) blasted his Democratic colleagues in the Senate on Thursday, telling reporters, "I'm sick and tired of people blaming George W. Bush for things he did."

In the aftermath of the release of the Senate Intelligence Committee's report on torture, Cruz said, "Democrats have been busy with their favorite game again: bringing up catastrophic things that President Bush did and then blaming him for them."

The Texas Senator raised the invasion of Iraq as an example of something that "Bush gets blamed for simply because he did it."

"Just because President Bush ordered the invasion of Iraq, costing thousands of lives and trillions of dollars, does that mean he should bear the blame for it?" he asked.

"America is not a place where you get blamed for things simply because they never would have happened unless you did them."

He urged each of his Democratic colleagues "to look in the mirror and ask yourselves whether you want to be blamed for disasters you have personally created? In my case, the answer is a resounding 'no.'"

Andy Borowitz is a New York Times best-selling author and a comedian who has written for The New Yorker since 1998. He writes the Borowitz Report for newyorker.com.

I am appalled that Fox News continues to support terrorism based on the end justifies the means. That is as bad as Nixon saying it isn't against the law if the president does it.

Here is something else that is appalling, Geordie. Darrel Issa cost the American taxpayers 25+ million for his committee, 14+ million for the IRS to respond to continual and redundant subpoenas, as well as other agencies responding to him and his committee.

In four years as the committee chairman, he uncovered no proof of a scandal. According to salon.com:

"By mistaking bureaucratic incompetence for scandal, ineptitude for criminality, and general stupidity on the part of low- and mid-level government employees for political conspiracy, Issa all but guarantees that only the most fervent partisans will trust any information that emerges from his committee. In that way he is perhaps the best Oversight chairman a Democratic administration could hope for -- one whose investigations can simply be disregarded as partisan witch hunts and whose influence waned with each misstep."

In 2015 another Republican chairman will be in place. Hopefully, but not likely, he will have learned a fiscally responsible lesson from Issa's activities.

http://www.salon.com/2014/12/11/good_riddance_darrell_issa_a_wasteful_blowhards_...

Good link Sam. Issa will not fare well in the history books and he will probably have a hard time adjusting to not being the chairman.

That reminds me. Michelle Bachman, tied with Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh for dumbest Tea Party members had her last day in Congress. I saw her Fox News interview. She complained that Obama was condescending to her. She might feel that a lot from most people.

Always right your grasp of the facts is off and my name is not "bud". Try harder to clamor for attention although I don't think it will help you.

Politico did a good parting story on Michelle Bachman. Chris Hayes said that she was the "queen of the hard right-wing clown car."

Politico described her parting shot at Obama as thus.

"On Tuesday, in what the retiring congresswoman from Minnesota figured would be her last White House holiday party, Bachmann used the grip-and-grin moment when she got her picture taken with President Obama to raise a reliably grin-killing topic. "The U.S. needs to take out Iran's nuclear facilities today," she informed him.

His response?

"A condescending smile and laugh," she tells Politico, making a little pat-on-the-head gesture. "'Michele, it isn't that easy, but that's OK,'" she remembers him telling her. To which the gentlelady from Minnesota replied that it would be on him, then, to have failed to keep Iran from wiping Israel off the map.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/12/michele-bachmann-final-days-11354...

Michelle Bachman decided not to run again because there were campaign funding irregularities. It didn't sound like it was going to be swept under the rug.

On a different subject, the grand jury witness number 40 that some Darren Wilson supporters use to claim that Wilson was in fear for his life, turned out to be lying. She wasn't even a witness and has an unfortunate habit of referring to black people by various names that would get my comment deleted if I said what they were.

The FBI knew that she was lying. But the prosecutors still had her on the stand where she could lie to support Wilson's story.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/12/12/1351303/-Hannity-s-favorite-witness-for...

That is a good point about Witness 40, Sam, and how she went out of her way to support Wilson and testify for him despite the fact that she wasn't even a witness, and she clearly is a racist with her own agenda for black people. Slate had an article that discusses "white privilege" which is almost the opposite of what Witness 40 did. The Slate article said:

"What, then, is a useful way to think about what white privilege means and how it works? In my view, the key to understanding white privilege is in this question: How can you benefit from racial inequality without being a racist? It's true, and important to understand, that white people often have the privilege of getting the benefit of the doubt from law enforcement. Or to put it in another, starker way: White people are less likely to be killed by police officers."

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2014/12/criming_while_w...

White privilege needs to be fixed as well as the racist behavior of Witness 40 who needs to be tried for lying to the FBI, the police, and the Grand Jury.

The system is broken in more ways than we sometimes consider.

I've heard a lot about white privilege lately and know that it exists but how do you stop it? You probably can't stop the receiver of the benefits of white privilege because they aren't doing anything wrong.

It seems that the only thing to do is address racist and other illegal behavior. Wilson thought Brown looked like a monster because he doesn't see black people as being the same as the people he has as friends and neighbors -- all white.

Good point Geordie, but I think that the answer, which I read about in the White Privilege Conference (WPC) is for white people to become champions against White Privilege as a positive step.

We know that we are getting the breaks that others are not getting just because we are white. In the case of Ferguson, we need to be protesting the fact that Brown, because he was black was killed rather than arrested.

This article:

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/12/ferguson-grand-jury-witness-40-fox-n...

is a real eye opener on how Fox News is willing to twist the truth to support the white cop against a black teenager. It has additional information on Witness 40 and her story being made up, yet Fox News repeatedly used her testimony to support Wilson's "innocence".

Apparently this witness testified in another crime and that testimony was considered to be a "complete fabrication."

Thanks for posting the article, Audi. The more that I read on this makes me think that there will be a better resolution to the Brown case, even if it has to be through a federal investigation. Possibly the 2016 election, may encourage the state of Missouri to take a better action but if not, maybe the Federal government will do something about it.

On a different subject, Audi, I've been following the Cuba situation and where we have moved forward in friendlier relations. Jeb Bush has come out against this, but it turns out the company that was paying him a million dollars a year (a British Company) was breaking the rules on the sanctions to Cuba, Iran, and other countries. What are your thoughts on improving relations with Cuba?

Anybody else chime in too, as long as you can be respectful. If you can't I'll ignore your comment.

I've been watching the Cuba situation too Sam. After 50 years it is time to start working with one of our closest neighbors. The good results this week has been a start. It's too bad that it will probably be politicized.

Related to the Cuba opening up of relations. Andy Borowitz published an article.

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)--Seizing upon an issue that could become the cornerstone of a possible 2016 Presidential campaign, Senator Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) said on Thursday that he would do everything in his power to block the twenty-first century.

"A lot of folks in Washington believe that the twenty-first century is a forgone conclusion, and that there's nothing we can do about it," Rubio said. "I say, 'Not on my watch.' "

Explaining his strategy, Rubio said that he and fellow Republicans were exploring ways to stop funding any items in the federal budget that pertain to the current century. "We cannot stop time, perhaps, but we can defund it," he said.

In a blistering attack, he laid blame for the twenty-first century squarely on the shoulders of someone he accused of "using every trick in the book to make it happen": President Obama.

"Much like Obamacare, the twenty-first century is something that the American people never asked for and do not want," Rubio said.

Andy Borowitz is a New York Times best-selling author and a comedian who has written for The New Yorker since 1998. He writes the Borowitz Report for newyorker.com.

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/marco-rubio-vows-block-twenty-fir...

It looks like everything is not happy in Republican land. Marco Rubio says that Rand Paul doesn't have a clue about Cuba. Rubio wants to keep the embargo against Cuba.

I think Andy Borowitz is right about Marco Rubio trying to prevent the 21st Century from happening. Good luck with that Marco.

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/12/marco-rubio-rand-paul-cuba-113699.html

I've been watching the Cuba thing too. It looks like Obama can open up diplomatic relations and remove economic sanctions but he has to get Congress's support to lift the embargo.

In addition to that Congress can refuse to fund an embassy so Obama can make improvements but he is going to need some cooperation from the Republicans.

What is going on between Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, and Jeb Bush right now is that they want to start standing out as the front runner for a Republican Presidential bid.

An interesting thing to note is that just before the embargo was imposed, John F. Kennedy bought thousands of Cuban cigars. He liked those Cuban cigars.

The protest are not about BROWN AND GARNER the are about police brutality.Brown and GARNER are the catalyst for actions which have been happening for years.It might be noted that the protest has taken on a national tone.This is not just about N.Y.but community's all over this nation.The brutality touches us all some more than others.It needs to stop.

Well it looks like Congress got their Christmas wish this year, and maybe American gained from this as well. As opposed to the Ted Cruz and others antics from last year, we are not going to do brinksmanship over the budget this year.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/22/congress-christmas_n_6342932.html?utm_h...

I agree lamont. This is an overall problem that has come up over and over again, and is about police brutality mainly against certain groups of people. The protests are because people have had enough.

Thank you Cool Breeze for the cut and past of what Bryan Fischer says about this issue. He is a well known extreme right wing fanatic that also thinks the gay agenda is the "greatest threat to liberty".

Do you ever have a thought of your own?

Sam, to your point about the rampant police brutality, Huffington had an article showing "9 Absurd Justifications for Police Killings of Unarmed Black Males".

The 9th absurd justification was a black male who was recently stopped for a seatbelt violation, the policemen asked for his license, he turned and reached into his car to get it, the policeman got excited and told him to get out of the car, the man got out of the car and the policeman opened fire on him. Luckily, this man survived. He kept saying, why did you shoot me? -- The justification was that he followed instantly the police instructions.

This one happened in South Carolina and in this case possibly justice will occur. The police officer was fired and then charged with "assault and battery of a high and aggravated nature, a felony which carries a penalty of up to 20 years in prison".

Justice hasn't occurred in most cases of this and that's why people are protesting and were still protesting last night.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/15/police-killing-black-men_n_6277020.html...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/25/sean-groubert-fired-arrested_n_5879694....

Let's not forget NewsMax, Biebert and Fox as long as we're labeling.

Fox News reported another police shooting of a black teenager, and a subsequent protest march about it claiming that the teenager had pointed a gun at the policeman.

The real facts of the case is that there was a video taken by a bystander which is grainy and you can't tell when the teenager was pointing a gun or pointing his finger.

The real problem that most people have with this shooting is this. This is in Missouri, where after the Brown shooting the police have been given and told to wear and use video cams. This policeman wore it but did not turn it on. He broke the rules, and probably on purpose because he probably resents the police having to wear a body cam. His lack of turning it on was disrespect for the feelings of the community.

Probably the teenager had a gun, but unfortunately the community will never know for sure because that policeman refused to follow the rules.

ya just have to wonder, how many personalities does them really have?...frightful

Mr. Mister, I'm puzzled by your question. Of whom are you thinking when you say "ya just have to wonder, how many personalities does them really have?...frightful"?

It makes me wonder if you are one of the few people in Mountain Home that thinks that people that are not of the extreme right in their thinking is really just one person that lives in Middleton. What a laugh!

Some of us are here to discuss politics. If you have another agenda, well too bad!

I ignored his statement for 4 days, which was intended to suggest that the liberals on the blog are just one person.

You ignored my comment for less than 1 day, Brenda. It isn't easy to not comment when something annoys you does it? I have the same struggle as you've pointed out.

Have a Happy New Year.

After some reflection, I'd like to go back and phrase what I said a little nicer, Brenda. Some comments get a little tiring, when they are repeated multiple times as a way to not debate an issue but to denigrate the person discussing an issue.

I could be wrong, but my perception is that when I respond to a negative comment that seems to draw your comments, not the person making the negative comment in the first place. Maybe I'm wrong.

I know you have a tough job, and I sincerely wish you and yours a Happy New Year. The BSU game was certainly a great ending to 2014!

A very good point, Brenda. I respect that explanation and will try to do better.

It does get a lot tiring reading the same rhetoric over and over again and again! That's why I have chosen not to comment very often. We all have our opinions and I don't expect to change any ones opinions, however it is boring reading the same rant from the same people.

Happy New Year ! Peace !

It does get pretty boring seeing the same rant over and over again and again. Hope the New Year will bring something interesting to this blog and hope to see some new people leaving comments.

Happy New Year!

Happy New Year to you too, Marylin! Let's hope that it is a good year for the good guys, from whichever party that they belong!

Sorry about the double posts. I didn't see my first post get posted so I wrote another one and when I posted it, I seen the first post. lol!

Sam,

I would surely think that Brenda has more important and productive ways to spend her time rather than having to change your diaper when ever your feelings get hurt. Whine whine whine.

Speaking of the New Year, I read an interesting editorial. It mentioned all of the things that were supposed to go wrong, according to Republican in 2014.

1. Illegal immigrants were supposedly bringing into the country Ebola and other terrible diseases. - Doesn't match facts.

2. The economy was supposed to be bad, and is in fact good and getting better.

3. ObamaCare was supposed to be terrible and hated by most Americans, but now 10 million people that never had insurance are now insured. Most people want to improve ObamaCare, not repeal it.

4. Marriage equality has been accepted through most of the United States without turning their children Gay, plus worse things.

In anticipation of the New Year, though the author concludes with this.

"It's a new year though and the clown car about to be sworn in next week is bigger than ever with a majority in both the Senate and the House. A car full of gun loving, poor hating, veteran (possible expletive deleted), climate change denying, Wall Street deregulating, health care repealing, and wealthy old white man loving clowns. Their plans so far include repealing Dodd-Frank, cutting and privatizing social security, cutting pensions, defunding Obamacare, eliminating food stamps and welfare, raising taxes on the middle class and working poor, cutting taxes for the super-rich and corporations, and who knows how many other Benghazi, IRS, and impeachment hearings we'll have to endure. They have the numbers to do what they want and by this time next year we could be having a completely different conversation in a completely different country."

I believe that the author is wrong, on his last point. The clown car doesn't have enough numbers to do what they really want because they have to work with the moderates, and Obama can veto any bill unless it is overridden by a 2/3 majority which they don't have the numbers for. -- But it was a good article, and I enjoyed it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-zombeck/the-2015-gop-clown-car-bi_b_640267...

Let's see--dating from 23 december there were 11 posts prior to my statement "suggesting" liberals on the blog were just one person.

Of those, 2 were made by coolbreeze, 2 by always right,1 by mike bradbury, 1 by lamont, 1 by the old progressive, 1 by audi, and 3 by you, sam. Of all, only YOU seem to take exception to what I said. Furthermore, YOU say I "denigrate the person discussing an issue". Of whom do you speak, sam? You? 11 posts from an obviously diverse set of speakers, yet you tie it all towards yourself? Hmm, I'm not the sharpest slice of cheese, but it seems you're speaking for many. (and who said anything about Middleton?)

That was a good editorial Sam. I kind of agree with the conclusion that you made about the numbers and them being not so certain.

Some of the Republicans also want to re-write the "No Child Left Behind" Act from 2002. There is a fear that it may include a voucher system to pay for private schools. My thinking is that this will steer us 200 years back to unequal education for our children. What is your opinion on that?

BTW, I hope that you had a good holiday.

Appears Mike Bradbury had a major melt-down in a reply to our opinion over in letters to the editor. And his voice is considered the voice of responsible and sane Republican policy?

Sara, I read your post to Mike and all I can say is SHAME ON YOU!!! Your post was intended to enrage not to encourage anything even remotely resembling dialog in my opinion. Read my post to Mike if you want to see an example of attempting to engage in reasonable dialog.

we find it unusual someone would say "shame on us" for stating our opinion; stating facts; stating the obvious. The author of the letter to the editor asked us to reply to his letter and follow-up comments; maybe even dared us; in so many words. Our comments were not meant to enrage but to engage. And to blame us for the authors meltdown? Doesn't the author bear any responsibility to keep emotions under control? We believe a person who owns and carries a gun like the author brags about should be capable of controlling his emotion more so than a person who isn't carrying. The authors reply to us should be a warning sign to himself and everyone around him. Let freedom ring

Sara, "we" "us" ???? I thought I was posting to 1 person. Did you bother to read my post? I don't know your age, but I have been engaging the far right for 50 years now. Yes, they were around that long ago.

Now that I've had my say, have a good day!

After years of drill baby drill, we have, and today the market tanked 300+ points on oil stocks. Not that they are really losing money, but they aren't making as much as the investors want. WAHHHHH

Looks like the Republicans are on it today; as usual. They really want to make sure we stay in our little political banter box; even when we do, they chase us here to double down on their demand.

The new and we're thinking more radical 2015 Republican Party is insisting the left is all for the stock market crashing. The fairy tale life of the fanatical right wing, with their scare tactic and baseless accusations is good for a laugh.

When they go back to look at how the Obama Administration handled the stock market, the only way Republicans will be happy is if they look at the chart upside down. But of course, we've been told by the Republicans we shouldn't believe any facts or figures with Obama in office.

Let freedom ring Boys.

always right, what those of us on the "left" as you like to group us are against is market manipulation, commodities manipulation, bailing out the wall street banks because of stupidity and greed on their part. Stop and think about it. Big Oil isn't losing money at $50 a barrel, but the market players punish them because the price of oil isn't $100 a barrel. That makes the market players no better than OPEC. I am against exploiting workers with artificially low wages so the market players can get richer faster. The old fashion theory of investing for the long term has died because of the " I want more and more and I want it NOW!!!" mentality.

I feel no pity for the speculators who are taking a bath now. They deserve it for manipulating the market for so long with no regard to the effect of their actions on the average American consumer. If having your pocket picked by these low lifes doesn't bother you, so be it. As for me, I resent it and am glad to see them suffer.

Right-wing business leaders were wrong; but how could this happen?

* CEO Who Said He'd Probably Have To Fire Employees If Obama Won in 2012 Is Now Giving Them Raises. *

Impossible. We were told by Republicans the USA would be communist and the world would be burning by 2015 if Obama got a second term. Facts get in the way of ignorance almost every time.

Only the promised Tea Party revolution or civil war can turn things around now, Boys; time to hit the stores for more musket balls and powder don't you think. Let freedom ring.

The current Republican majority US Congress is taking credit for our good economy as of yesterday. You Boys act fast. The Misinformation Train has been repainted, refueled with lies and guarded by the very old conservative musket army. Choo, choo Boys and let freedom ring.

Community College should be FREE! What is FREE? Last I knew, nothing is free. Do they have empty chairs they're willing to let someone sit in for no cost? Will they get academic records, for maybe a doc fee? I can see the fraud, waste and abuse snowballing already!

Republicans can see the fraud, waste and abuse snowballing in a program that hasn't even started.

Republicans can see death panels in a health care system; even if there aren't any.

Republicans can see Obama taking away your guns; even if he hasn't done so in 6 years of fear mongering by the Tea Party Patriots.

Republicans are already cheering the image of millions of Americans losing health care insurance.

Republicans are sipping champaign with the news 100,000's of citizens are forced off food stamps; hungry or not.

The one true Republican god; the god of money and retribution is extremely happy now.

The research has been done; the Republican Misinformation Train is no longer free; they say you have to pay to be deceived by your god and your conservative political leaders. Let freedom ring and Benghazi on, Boys.

The fear factor is always on in the world of the Republican Party. The latest knee knocking, heart attack inducing, eyeball popping subject is free community college.

Why are the Tea Party Boys ready to grab their muskets and powder horns; they don't want the ignorant to get smart; they know college level classes and degrees create Democrats. Keep them ignorant and the next gen and many afterwards will be Tea Party Patriots; Benghazi On and let freedom ring.

Choo, Choo Boys; read this short write-up; http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/republicans-expose-obamas-college...

Good morning Sara.....man did you work up a sweat over that? Weather or not this program started yet, it's in the works is it not? Just like so many others, this is something Obama wants and he'll implement it with his pen or some other method. But the deal is.....How is it free? And what does it have to do with all the other things you babbled about. Free Community college is what he said did he not? Seems a certain group of people don't understand, nothing is free, someone always pays. Pucker up and boohoo or chooo chooo or whatever it you used for a period. Have a good day.

The Republican new agenda is the same as the old agenda; they spread fear; they spread hate; they spread misinformation; they make sure education is a lower priority than an oil pipeline that will create 50 permanent jobs; Why?

The research has been done, Boys. Keep em ignorant and they stay Republican. Benghazi on and let freedom ring.

The Republicans, first day in office take credit for a solid USA economy? Laughing all the way home we are.

Now the Republicans who have been bragging they are going to start a shooting-tooting new Revolution while taking on the name of the Tea Party Patriots want to say Democrats are using this as a scare tactic? Laughing all the way home we are.

The Republicans have seen the facts of the Canadian Oil Pipeline that will be built through the USA and provide only 50 permanent jobs for US Citizen while helping Canadian economy; yet they say this project is of great importance and now is a scare tactic from the liberals? Laughing all the way home we are.

The Republicans insists Democrats and liberal want everything for free; yet the facts are Red States have been proven time and again to be the biggest acceptor of our tax monies. Laughing all the way home we are.

The Republicans insist no one in the USA is dying of hunger; yet may are going hungry in the greatest nation in the world. We're not laughing but the pink pajama Republicans like to joke about hungry people; sad but true.

If stating facts scares people then this local group of liberals admit to using facts to push progress.

If spreading misinformation as the Republicans have been doing; ebola, death panels, communist takeovers, Nazi takeovers; Obama coming to get your guns; FEMA Camp; 12 year old terrorist warriors streaming across the border, Benghazi and a host of other laughable lies; if that is the way the Republicans want to push change or in most cases regression, then every US Citizen should be laughing at and dismissing the entire conservative movement.

The Misinformation Train is packed full; good to see the clown cars are full of the Tea Party Patriots. Let freedom ring and Benghazi On, Boys.

I think that the first two years of community college being free is a great idea and as a tax payer I don't mind paying for it. The link below has some of the details in the proposed bi-partisan idea. It will also be in the State of the Union speech on January 20th.

Even if students stop college after those first two years, the whole country benefits, and the students will find it easier to get jobs.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/01/barack-obama-free-community-college-114094...

Always Right

Do you believe Medicaid is Welfare?

WOW!!! What more can one say about that comment.....?

Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio the want-a-be Republican candidates for President, and known science deniers are being given chairman positions for two key science committees. I believe this is one more example of the Republican Party being the stupid party.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/12/ted-cruz-nasa_n_6456270.html

Sara,

Find and use your own material. The pajama line is mine. They are not pink, they are multi-colored and walking all about Walmart the first of each month.

It looks like a lot of the Republican candidates just don't want Mitt to run again even though apparently Mitt wants to run. It looks like once again the Republicans will destroy each other in the primaries so that their candidate can lose again in the General Election.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/01/mitt-romney-backlash-2016-elections-114275...

We find it odd how the local Republicans hate people; because they are poor; because they have different skin tones; because they want to move here from a State the Republicans don't approve of; because they registered their cars in Ada County; because they registered their car in Canyon County; because they participate in ObamaCare; because their religion isn't on the * Approved Republican Religion List *; because they love someone not on the * Republican You Can Love and Marry Them List *; because they post in a section of this webpage Republicans don't approve of.

The research has been done, Boys. Hate away and be bitter, angry and scared; it's the great Republican way; let freedom ring.

Republicans are now counting hate, bigotry and xenophobia as their entitlement programs; this whole time we thought these Republican traits were flaws; now we know they are a completely normal feature of the conservative party in the USA, the Taliban and ISIS. Explains a lot.

Let freedom ring Boys.

We got to love our local pistol packing seniors; Advocate Civil War and admit to having extreme anger issues; Advocate a shooting Revolution, hate for liberals and people who register their cars in the certain Idaho counties and then tell us they can't keep their cool around people with a differing point of view?

These are the people who live and work around your City; cannot control their emotions and are still carrying guns. Clint Eastwood would be proud, Cowboys.

Yer yap reminds me of a blunderbuss!

We welcome Mr. Bradbury back to this webpage; your forever was much longer than other Republican's * forever *; much shorter than the classic definition; memory fades with time we understand.

The research hasn't been done yet but we're told a person who is reminded of an old-fashioned gun while thinking of another person might need some fresh air and sunshine.

Benghazi on Cowboys and let freedom ring.

So is Mike Bradbury describing a 24-karat gun on a political discussion? How could this be?