Crowd tells Corder to oppose education plan

Wednesday, March 2, 2011
During last week's town hall meeting on the state's proposed education plan, Sen. Tim Corder was handed a petition by an elementary student and signed by fellow students, urging him to vote against the Luna plan.

State Sen. Tim Corder spent nearly three hours last Wednesday night hearing comments and answering questions about state Superintendent of Education Tom Luna's proposed restructuring of public education in Idaho.

Corder was the only one of the three legislators from this district to attend the town hall meeting on Luna's plans and the approximately 250 people who showed up directed virtually all of their comments and questions at him, while the school board, district administrators, the mayor and members of the city council looked on.

Corder, a Republican, said he would vote against the Luna plan, but bluntly told the audience that the bills would pass the legislature.

When questioned why, in the face of large-scale protests over the plan, Corder said "it was a matter of philosophy," by some of his more conservative Republican peers.

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    Kudos to Tim Corder for having the respect and decency to show up for the public meeting. What was it that kept the other two from showing? Are these people not voted into office by us, the voters?? Seems to me they showed their lack of interest in what the people have to say by their absence.

    -- Posted by Ds_Seester on Wed, Mar 2, 2011, at 11:09 AM
  • what a poor meeting. the sudio was worse than bad. what a waste of time. there has to be changes in the education and the only alternation the teachers and administrators (there plan is for the tax payers to give them more money) has is to gripe about Luna's plan for the future. I believe the teachers and especially the administrators with- in the schools are over paid for 180 days of work!

    -- Posted by goodllama2 on Wed, Mar 2, 2011, at 11:36 AM
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    goodllama2:

    Teachers? Have you seen the way some of these teachers have to live? It's paycheck to paycheck for some of them. Do you know the annual salary for a teaching position? You do realize that unless they opt to spread their paycheck out over 12 months, they do NOT receive pay over the summer? And if they do choose to spread it out, they still receive the same annual salary they would for their nine months of work?

    Administrators, yeah, I can see where they're overpaid I suppose

    -- Posted by SunshineChristy on Wed, Mar 2, 2011, at 3:20 PM
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    I don't know why people think these student planned protests are generated by teachers, but CountryDweller, why do you think I'm on here? Do you think it's to get my sick kicks from watching you and others slam teachers and my fellow classmates? Not at all. It's because I AM seriously against this bill and seriously for my education and the education of others, especially my younger siblings. "Secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity". This is not just about me and what I believe is a decent education, but about future generations of children and adolescents passing through this school system. Education, as it stands in America, is currently a blessing of liberty, and I am a true American, and would fight to the death for this cause if need be, but only in the proper fashion and on the right fields.

    -- Posted by SunshineChristy on Wed, Mar 2, 2011, at 10:03 PM
  • CJW: Thanks for the list. All are making much more than professionals in our family and working about half as many hours. One family member is teaching principles of nuclear physics, has to have a top secret security clearance, and has a hard time making 50k a year.

    -- Posted by skeeter on Fri, Mar 4, 2011, at 6:20 AM
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    cant justwatch:

    I'm actually refering to the parents of some very good friends of mine, being teachers. My father is in the military, so that really wouldn't do much good to ask about any of those things, because we get free health care and such, and I'm sure that doesn't apply to non-government employees unless you work somewhere crazy rich or are so poor the government has decided to help you. And, also, you must understand that the list below is coming from a source about as accurate as wikileaks. When a teacher starts working, they only make about 32,000 a year, and this I CAN learn from my dad, because he is taking courses to become a teacher. Are you?

    -- Posted by SunshineChristy on Fri, Mar 4, 2011, at 7:10 AM
  • Kind of a conflict of interest for Corder as he has relatives working at hacker. Of course he is going to fight Luna's plan. Want to see what everyone makes in our school district, download the PDF at mhg.lewiville.com.

    -- Posted by culling on Fri, Mar 4, 2011, at 11:38 AM
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    cant justwatch:

    I am a debate student, but don't act like that has any relevancy here. So whatever, you may have a credible source, but until you see what life is really like for these people, you have zero room to talk. What you're doing is like saying that starving children in Africa have brought their problems on themselves.

    I would honestly like to know, why do teachers have such poor standing in society? Why does no one like them? I'm sure you wouldn't want to do their job because you would have to deal with kids like ME and it's clear you really can't stand me because I challenge your bubble of superiority. Or something like that, because you obviously have an issue with me.

    -- Posted by SunshineChristy on Fri, Mar 4, 2011, at 8:48 PM
  • I support Luna's plan, as I suspect a great majority of Idahoans do. The reason is not because teachers are bad and need to be taken down a notch; not at all. The simple reason is because the status-quo is not sustainable in our present economy, nor will it be in the years ahead. The teacher's unions need to understand this and act aggressively in the best interests of the people of Idaho. Students will not suffer as a result of Luna. Luna's plan is bold and will take Idaho students, and teaching, into the 21st century. Indeed, as reported by Otter and Luna, most teachers will probably see an increase in their pay. However, districts paying teachers not to teach is a despicable act and should not be tolerated. The next step is to rein in the school districts themselves. For far too long have the districts abused the money given them by the taxpayers. A full accounting of taxpayer funds given to districts is needed now with the waste and under-handed dealings made clear to the citizens. Finally, if the Idaho legislature attempts to levy a single penny of tax increase for education before all funds have been properly accounted for and all waste has been eliminated, then the consequences will be dire the next time the voters head to the polls.

    -- Posted by GetRealNow on Sun, Mar 6, 2011, at 4:54 PM
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