…And Still The Apologies Keep Going Out……

Posted Thursday, February 23, 2012, at 8:43 PM
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  • Too true

    -- Posted by KH Gal on Thu, Feb 23, 2012, at 10:15 PM
  • No country has ever occupied Afghanistan successfully, or installed a government not of the peoples choosing. Just look at the British and the Russians. We invaded without a plan for afterwards. The neo-cons may have had a plan, but it was doomed from the get go. We are out manned there. We burned their holy book. We have 3 choices, apologize, slaughterer any Afghan that comes near us, or get the heck out NOW.

    So which is it guys?

    Right now it's little more than Vietnam version 2.0

    -- Posted by royincaldwell on Fri, Feb 24, 2012, at 5:52 AM
  • We were to stupid or arrogant to understand the fate of the French in indo-china or the british and russians in afghanistan.

    As far as the apology, it's that or slaughter thousands trying to save our sorry butts. We created this nightmare. What should we have done? Kick out the Taliban and just give that lousy little country back to the people and leave them alone.

    -- Posted by royincaldwell on Fri, Feb 24, 2012, at 6:56 AM
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    Agrees with Zook. No one rudely walks up to a house that they think will blow their head off...AND IS READY AND WILLING TO.

    And I don't care about the Quran either, certainly NOT more than lives lost.

    I get quite incented just reading these and remembering. Well, I remember!

    We do need to stand strong. Make a stand and back it up. Make consequences so miserable that NO-ONE wants to risk it again. It's how I raised my kids.... They rarely did a wrong thing twice. It works!

    -- Posted by jessiemiller on Fri, Feb 24, 2012, at 9:24 AM
  • I TRIED TO GET THIS LAST NITE SOMETHING HAPPENED......ANYHOW TO KEEP THIS HONEST......This other "MINORITY IS OFFENDED" I get that way anytime our flag is desecrated.I WISH PEOPLE WOULD NOT PUT FOLKS IN A BARRELL BEFORE THEY KNOW WERE THEY ARE COMING FROM. I DONT CARE WHAT THE SUPREME COURT SAID ABOUT IT EITHER. I AM NOT GOING TO GET INTO THE POLETICS OF THE APOLOGY YOU WOULDNT LISTEN ANYHOW.

    I feel those soldiers knew what they were doing and if they didnt the NCOIC DID .IT WOULD BE NICE IF PEOPLE WOULD THINK BEFORE THEY ACT THEREFOR AVOIDING A LOT OF THINGS.PERSONALLY I want us out of there NOW and this is as good a reason as any, yesterday would not be soon enough for me,lets get gone.

    ENOUGH sabre rattling we dont need more WAR to prove who is the badest, we need to come home period.....if you know what your about you dont have to prove it.

    -- Posted by lamont on Fri, Feb 24, 2012, at 10:48 AM
  • YOU ARE SPEAKING OF SOME NOT ALL....ANYHOW I WASNT TALKING ABOUT THEM IN A BARRELL,I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER MINORITY'S THAT SEEMED TO BE PUT IN THE BARRELL OF CONDONING.....MY POINT BEING MOST DONT.!!!! WHAT CHRISTIANS DO VS WHAT MUSLIMS DO IS A MATTER OF CULTURE AND USUALLY OF THOSE RAISED IN SOCIETY'S OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES.THAT IS NOT AND EXSCUSE JUST A FACT.THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION FOR THE ACTIONS IN OUR SOCIETY NOW THERES IS ANOTHERE MATTER....THAT IS WHY WE NEED TO LET THEM BE......BRING OUR PEOPLE HOME NOW.!!!!!!!!

    -- Posted by lamont on Fri, Feb 24, 2012, at 7:54 PM
  • It is my understanding that the books had been desecrated by the prisoners using them to write messages in for other prisoners.

    I don't think that the mainstream media stressed that point at all. What should have been done is give the desecrated books over to someone else to dispose of.

    Instead, it is being made to look as though a few soldiers were being disrespectful. Supporting our troops should mean a little more than some token words or a public service announcement.

    We have protocol when our flag has become tattered and worn. It is my understanding that the same applies to the holy books that have been desecrated. But silly us, it only applies if the other side makes that determination.

    -- Posted by KH Gal on Fri, Feb 24, 2012, at 10:37 PM
  • BUCHKSHOT I AM EXSCUSING NOTHING SO IF THAT IS YOUR IMPRESSION THAT IS UP TO YOU.THAT IS THE WAY YOU WANT TO SEE IT.I DONT.

    I AM A MILITARY MAN I THINK 28YRS QUALIFYS AND I ATTENDED ENOUGH SCHOOLS TO FEEL SECURE IN WHAT I AM SAYING.YOU WANT ME TO CONDEM every muslim, cant do that. You want to that is up to you.YOU dont have a problem passing off things you HAVE EXPLANATIONS FOR.WE fought the crusades once do we want to do it again?I dont.You say every muslim is not a terrorist but every terrorist is a muslim.I COULD APPLY THAT IN SOME OTHER SCENARIO'S THAT I AM SURE YOU WOULD NOT AGREE WITH BUT WOULD APPLY.

    I DID NOT JUSTIFY ANYTHING,I STATED REASONS THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.AND BUCHSHOT THE JUDEAO CHRISTAN RECORD IS NOT EXACTLY STELLAR IS IT.? WE DONT WANT WORLD DOMINATION??WE JUST DONT SAY IT.BUT THAT IS OUR INTENT....IS IT NOT????I didnt say anything was ok.

    Right now I am a little angry, you tried to impeach my service and that is something that truly gets my dandruff up.

    -- Posted by lamont on Fri, Feb 24, 2012, at 10:57 PM
  • Why is it that so many seem to forget that 9/11 was the act of a small group of people, not 1.3 billion people. There are radicals in every religion. Starting with the crusades, atrocities have been committed by both sides. Christians would like to forget the inquisition I'm sure. Not to mention the Salem trials and other atrocities committed. Why is that?

    Keith wrote a blog where he stated he hated a man because of his arrogant swagger. Read the Ugly American. There is more fact than fiction there.

    -- Posted by royincaldwell on Sat, Feb 25, 2012, at 7:16 AM
  • Buckshot, have you ever stopped to consider why the numbers of these radicals has grown? I read the news everyday. We promote self determination, then squawk when we don't like the outcome of that self determination. The Egyptians hated the US backed Mubarak. They revolted. They are choosing the government of their choice. We have no business interfering. Libya, they hated their leader, we helped the rebels. Now is the time for their self determination. Syria, thank God we have stayed out of it so far. It seems like we have been in the business of picking winners and losers far to long.It's a no win situation in reality.

    If we are going to get involved in other countries affairs regarding regime change, we have to live with the choices their people make.

    We need to keep our nose out of other countries politics, period! Our history of propping up governments that are unpopular with the citizens involved has gained us nothing but disdain and hatred world wide.

    Quite honestly our involvement in the middle east has been motivated by oil and money. To think otherwise is foolish. If you don't believe me, just go back to the end of WW1. Look at the maps. You keep talking about today, others have very long memories. The only time we have long memories is when it's convenient for us.

    -- Posted by royincaldwell on Sat, Feb 25, 2012, at 9:07 AM
  • Oh, I forgot one thing. It was oil, money, and power.

    I know an Afghan during the time they were fighting the Russians. Just a common man. His attitude I'm sure spoke for many Afghans. Thank you for the weapons, now go away and leave us to decide what we want. Did we listen? No! Iran had a government of the peoples choice, we didn't like it. We helped engineer a coup and installed the Shah who the people hated.

    And you wonder why the people of that region hate us so much?

    -- Posted by royincaldwell on Sat, Feb 25, 2012, at 9:41 AM
  • They have voted in an open and free election. You don't like the outcome.

    -- Posted by royincaldwell on Sat, Feb 25, 2012, at 10:28 AM
  • And you completely ignored the rest of my post.

    -- Posted by royincaldwell on Sat, Feb 25, 2012, at 10:29 AM
  • Any US President that says he is "sorry" for the events going on over this last week---IS NOT a President of the United States of America. Obama needs to pack up his family and go home. He has proven where his loyalty is and it is not on US soil. What a guy he is. We can't afford 4 more seconds of this bull much less 4 more YEARS!

    -- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sat, Feb 25, 2012, at 11:45 AM
  • Lamont:

    I just have to ask...why are the Jews always in your path of fire? As a Jewish person in this community, your comments on this topic offend me. You stated prior that the "Jews went meekly" and now you post this (below). What in the heck is wrong with you? You profess that you are not a racist but you sure take every chance you get to go after a specific group of people! Why?

    ...I DID NOT JUSTIFY ANYTHING,I STATED REASONS THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.AND BUCHSHOT THE JUDEAO CHRISTAN RECORD IS NOT EXACTLY STELLAR IS IT.? WE DONT WANT WORLD DOMINATION??WE JUST DONT SAY IT.BUT THAT IS OUR INTENT....IS IT NOT????I didnt say anything was ok.

    .......

    -- Posted by lamont on Fri, Feb 24, 2012, at 10:57 PM

    -- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sat, Feb 25, 2012, at 12:01 PM
  • Well Buckshot, the world community that observed the elections declared them open and free. Just a bunch of liars I guess. Still no answer to the Shah, or the creations of countries on the Arabian peninsula against their will.

    -- Posted by royincaldwell on Sat, Feb 25, 2012, at 12:53 PM
  • EXSCUSE ME....DO WE OR DO WE NOT CONSIDER OURSELVES A JUDEAO CHRISTEN COUNTRY IS THAT NOT THE CORRECT TERMINOLOGY OR NOT ......IF IT IS NOT PLEASE INFORM ME AS TO WHAT IT IS.I CERETAINLY WAS NOT PICKING ON JEWS WHAT IS WITH YOU?????? OK OPINION MISSY.....YOU CAST STONES AT ME ABOUT COLOR BUT IF I EVEN MENTION ANYTHING (twice now) THAT SOUNDS JEWISH YOU ARE UP AND RUNNING. we are what we are and jewdeao christen nation as far as I know is not offensive.

    BUCKSHOT.....YOU SAID.......YOU... SAY..... YOUR A MILITARY MAN....IS THAT NOT WHAT YOU POSTED ?????? I AM A MILITARY MAN OK. ACT I dont act not in my nature. KEITH asked and stated a problem....he didnt make it personal not one time that is the difference between ....you.cjw.and keith.....he also stated it was not aimed personally you dont come off that way......I dont care how you feel about muslims that is your business,the fact that I wont place them all in the same barrel is mine and like you I will own that.I didnt question your thought process or anything else about why you went that way.Did you not tell me I WAS ALLOWING IT....I DONT NEED ANY OF YOU TO AGREE, YOU WONT BASED ON YOUR DISLIKE OF ANYONE OR ANYTHING YOU CONSIDER LIBERAL YOU HAVE ALREADY STATED THAT, SO I HAVE NO EXSPECTATIONS OF YOU THAT ARE POSITIVE.SO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT.....YES I talk to a lot of consevatives and most dont make personal attacks as you do, it is that simple.....THERE IS ABOUT 4 OR 5 PERSONALS IN THE LAST POST......... GO CK......

    have a good day

    -- Posted by lamont on Sat, Feb 25, 2012, at 2:04 PM
  • YOU DONT GET PERSONAL WITH THEM........DO YOU WANT ME TO SAY IT AGAIN ....YOU DONT GET PERSONAL WITH THEM......."IF YOU WERE ACTUALLY CAPABLE" ...... WHAT THE HECK DO YOU CALL THAT?.....I DONT HAVE A PROBLEM YOU DO AND I STATED IT BEFORE.I DONT SHIFT,SCHUFFLE OR STUTTER AND I AM NOT A ULTRA CONSERVATIVE YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.... TOUGH. I DONT ATTACK MY ULTRA CONSERVATIVE FRIENDS I DONT LIKE SOME OF THERE IDEAS BUT I DONT GET INTO THE 1ST PERSON SIMPLE ISNT IT

    -- Posted by lamont on Sat, Feb 25, 2012, at 3:50 PM
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