What a Fabulous Plan!

Posted Wednesday, November 16, 2011, at 6:55 PM
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  • YO, what about ME?????

    -- Posted by royincaldwell on Wed, Nov 16, 2011, at 7:00 PM
  • OK BIG PICTURE.....THAILAND HAS BEEN AND ALLY FOR WHAT, 50YRS AT LEAST.BELIEVE IT OR NOT WE STILL HAVE ACCESS TO THE BASES THERE AND USE THEM FOR VARIOUS REASONS ALL THE TIME.

    THE AUSSIES THE SAME THING,Now seeing how we dont trust the chinese to do anything but lend us money and they appear to be getting ready to possibley defend IRAN I WOULD THINK IT PRUDENT TO PUT SOME TROOPS SOMEWHERE CLOSE,also if you ck locations we can reflex back to the mideast if we have to in a flash.Now if you want to turn the pacific basin over to the chicoms were they can be the most influential, we can bring them all home and let it go.Before we start talking about bonehead moves I WOULD THINK THAT THE joint chiefs made this recommendation,we do have some sensitive things in Thailand that they dont talk about to include it is a port of call and we train there.

    ZOOK you need to take and do some thinking on this one.What is it going to take for some to realize THE PRESIDENT is not ALWAYS wrong. Dont we get tired of accusations without all the pertinent points.This shot from the hip was for naught.It was also unfair.

    MAYBE THERE IS A NEED TO LOOK AT SOMETHING CALLED NATIONAL SECURITY,AND SPHERE OF INFLUENCE ON A GLOBAL LEVEL.

    EXSCUSE ME, WHAT SCREW UP??? WHAT SILENCE????WHAT ARE YOU SO ANGRY ABOUT THAT YOU ARE NOT LOOKING AT IT ALL????????I HATE TO SAY IT 10 MILLION IS CHUMP CHANGE AND YOU KNOW IT.SMALL PRICE FOR WHAT WE HAVE THERE AND WHAT THEY SUPPORT.

    -- Posted by lamont on Wed, Nov 16, 2011, at 8:01 PM
  • lamont, I hate to say this, but if we end up in a dust up with the Chinese, there wont be any boots on the ground, and the world as we know it may come to an end.

    -- Posted by royincaldwell on Wed, Nov 16, 2011, at 8:57 PM
  • I don't remember saying this the way you are showing it. You need to put the whole paragraph out there what I said. I believe I was saying what others are saying.....

    And I don't ever remember saying I thought Obama was cute or handsome or having a colgate smile

    ((.......Obama does no wrong in YOUR eyes, he's just PERFECT in every way, isn't he?....cute....handsome.....Colgate smile.......

    Well let me respond right here to your recent remarks on Romney......He's not my pick and he HAS does some "RINO" things.......some question his abilities because of his religion"................ " ))

    Again I was saying what others were saying not my words

    We are doing what we have always done. Protecting !!

    You know as well as I do they only leak to the press what they want to give them. There is most likely a lot more going on that we even can comprehend and all we can do is wait for the next news leak..........

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Wed, Nov 16, 2011, at 9:31 PM
  • MIKE H.....you are probally right,but I see you see the point.Plus there are some things in Thailand that are of a very serious nature.10 mil is nothing,a very cheap price and that probally had to be forced on them they dont like outside pressure.

    In comparrison to what we give Israel a year it doesnt count.FOR your info ZOOK....THE MARINES TRAIN OUT OF PATTAYA,THERE AIR WINGS AND GROUND AMP FORCESES.OUR AIR FORCE HAS THINGS UP COUNTRY THAT ARE VERY SENSITIVE.I AM not saying we have done a stellar job of taking care of our own ,but I am saying that your criticism is misplaced in this case.Ill say it again HE IS NOT ALWAYS WRONG.

    AH...... manifest destiney....I see someone recognizes that besides me,when I said it all H broke loss, how real it is and has never stoped.

    FUNNY HOW no talk of that useless war effort for no reason other than a lie....but some folks made a lot of money and the nation got set on a path of wartime money proffitering.And now it's all THIS PREEIDENTS FAULT.......went to war didnt pay for it the bills are comming due and we dont have the money to pay them.IT will not change after this PRESSIDENT IS GONE.they will take from us to insure that they have starting with Halliburton,no bid contracts talk about the fox loose in the hen house.

    FLOOD TO FLOOD THE DEVASTATION THEY HAVE DOESNT COMPARE,BANGKOK FOR STARTERS IS NOT SOME VILLAGE,AND WHEN THE RAINEY SEASON STARTS IT WILL GET WORST BETWEEN DESEASE,LACK OF WATER,TRANSPORTATION AND A HOST OF OTHER THINGS IT WILL DEVASTATE A LARGE PART OF THE ECONOMY AND THE COUNTRY.10 MIL WILL BUY SOME MEDICAL SUPPLIES THAT IS ABOUT ALL.THEY dont want our money Zook that is why they wouldnt let us stay after NAMM PACK YOUR STUFF AND GO HOME.THEY TOO ARE AND ALLIE ONE THAT DOESNT ASK FOR MUCH AT ALL COMPARED TO WHAT WE GET.SAME INSTALLATIONS ELSE WERE ARE COSTING US BILLIONS.

    -- Posted by lamont on Thu, Nov 17, 2011, at 9:10 AM
  • I AM NOT GOING TO ARGUE I will say this.IT would not hurt my feelings to see force levels return to what they were before IRAQ.SEEMs like the moment we add we cant take away.The numbers as reported at first on the marine contingency to australia were wrong, the number is 2,500.

    IT is ok to disagree but to dismiss things out of hand is what got us PEARL HARBOR among other things.This administration isnt doing anything to defense that hasnt already been done.The country wanted and all volunteer force they got it.AND THE COST.WHICH equates to numbers of people based on money to be spent.......QUITE HIP SHOOTING EVERYTHING. THE FORCE ACROSS THE BOARD WILL BE CUT.......IT'S CALLED MONEY.EVEN THE RIGHT ADMITES THAT.WITH TUNNEL VISION WE GO AFTER THIS MAN,HOW THE HECK DO YOU EXPECT HIM TO GOVERN. IT IS WITHOUT A DOUGHT ONE OF THE MOST INSEDIOUS THINGS I HAVE EVER WITNESSED,......the hate is beyond reason,and what does it satisfy's??????constructive criticism fine, but this no matter what it is wrong, makes No sense at all.ME PERSONALLY IT DOESNT SIT WELL......IS THIS WHAT AMERICANS ARE ABOUT ???????? if so we have a problem....with.........you fill in the blank

    -- Posted by lamont on Thu, Nov 17, 2011, at 2:27 PM
  • THE reason for that contingency for god sake has nothing to do with going against the chicoms it is about symbolism......a little thing like showing support to your allies.ANYTHING ,ANYTHING TO ATTEMPT TO MAKE HIM LOOK BAD......MORE RIDICULUS........COME ON !!!!!!!!!!! THE JOINT CHIEFS WANT THIS AND SO DOES THE STATE DEPARTMENT.WE CAN GET FROM THERE TO A LOT OF PLACES FAST.AND we might learn a thing or 2 from the aussies.Nothing wrong with joint service operations across international lines.IT MAKES FRIENDS AND SOLIDFY'S RELATIONSHIPS.

    -- Posted by lamont on Thu, Nov 17, 2011, at 6:39 PM
  • JYD....WE HAVE GOTTEN TO IT SOMETIMES BUT OBVIOUSLY YOU KNOW WHAT I KNOW.......THE almighty marines stood alone totaly self sufficient....on second thought I will not go there it will just make me mad....your right Zook..... we didnt do anything.THE THAIS, THE AUSSIES, NONE OF US,... YOU GOT OUT OF THERE ON YOUR OWN.

    JYD your right we cant balance the books.My first trip was 1962.... 4th FIS from misawa to DA MAUNG,TDY.....NEXT 45TRS SAME PLACE...SEEMS TO ME there were some aussie B-57's over khe sahn but I am probally having a senior moment and my memorie is dim........I dont think so........oh and the 52's came out of UTAPO THAILAND...JUST SO THE RECORDS STRAIGHT.

    Those folks layed it out there to there own peril and are STILL doing it.I have been saying that without getting specific but I must be talking to myself.I think JYD and myself know the same things so I am going to leave it here.Believe what you want ZOOK....some of us know better.

    THEY DESERVE OUR SUPPORT LONG OVERDUE.

    -- Posted by lamont on Thu, Nov 17, 2011, at 11:35 PM
  • The BUFFS came out of Guam and Utapao, just to set the record straight. The Marines I worked with were some of the hardest most dedicated workers I ever saw and they flew a heck of a lot of missions in support of their troops and would come back with shot up aircraft all the time.

    Also the AF would come back with shot up aircraft all the time. I think it was a total effort by all forces that came up short because of divine guidance from DC. Nobody had it easy that I remember and I had 11 total years in Asia.

    -- Posted by skeeter on Fri, Nov 18, 2011, at 6:46 AM
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    http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/03/23/whats-health-care-bill

    This might provide you some path to an explanation.

    -- Posted by Dave Thompson on Fri, Nov 18, 2011, at 8:44 AM
  • HEY SKEETER MOST DONT HAVE THAT MUCH TIME THERE....I HAD ABOUT6 AND 1/2 GREAT PLACE,You are right devine guidance from D.C..They didnt have to lace them up so what did they care.I WILL GO TO MY GRAVE MORE THAN ANGRY.TOTAL effort to be sure.The Thais's dont owe us and neither do the Aussies.We need to get the european country's to pay there dept and I KNOW THAT IS WISHFULL THINKING.NOT MUCH ADVERTISED BUT A lot of country's sent aid after 911 and Katrina.Our pride doesnt let us talk about it,and poletics keeps it suppresed.Heck we give the europeans 10 mil a day THATS WHAT NEEDS TO STOP.......LATTER

    -- Posted by lamont on Fri, Nov 18, 2011, at 9:42 AM
  • THE E MODEL WAS THE RECCE THE A/B WERE HOT 20MM 6 IN THE WINGS AND ROTATING DOOR FOR BOMBS I DINT REMEMBER WHICH ONES THE AUSSIE FLEW I WANT TO SAY THEY HAD SOME SINGLE CANOPY A'S THAT HADNT BEEN CONVERTED.great lotter time for a jet,if they didnt have to go to far they could haul a lot of garbage,rockets ,bombs,20mm same guns as the sleds.GOOD BIRD but nasty to work on.B-66 the same, nasty,.

    I dont need to know your name JYD just were your head is at.YOU AND ZOOK TOUCHED NERVES THAT IS ODD FOR US BUT WE ARE ENTITLED LETS JUST REMEMBER WE ALL COPE DIFFERENTLY.I wouldnt leave you behind either.........LATTER

    -- Posted by lamont on Fri, Nov 18, 2011, at 8:06 PM
  • There were launches out of Thailand, Kadena AB, and Guam of B-52's and about ten were shot down in the North. There were a lot of picture taking aircraft involved in the war including the RB 66. I know we put photo flash (M112 and M123) on fighters in some cases,and you could hear the explosion when they went off. Also the gun ships had lots of cameras and were a very interesting view if you ever got the chance. Ah memories.

    I'm not sure when the A-6's and A-7's started supporting downed pilots, but they played a big role in rescue. Even the 111's flew many missions over there but they spent more than their sharre of time broke. I always liked the lead sled as they would come back opened up like a tuna can and be ready to go in a day or two.

    -- Posted by skeeter on Sat, Nov 19, 2011, at 6:34 AM
  • HOW'S THE LEECHES.????.......SMILE

    -- Posted by lamont on Sun, Nov 20, 2011, at 7:30 PM
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    10 Million dollars uh. **** I could of ate tonight.

    -- Posted by shockwave on Tue, Nov 22, 2011, at 9:39 PM
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