The “Patriotic” Thing To Do

Posted Wednesday, October 12, 2011, at 8:31 AM

...........is NOT to pay more taxes, as Obama's Vice President has told us. The "Patriotic" thing to do is rid ourselves of the tyrants, and one of the GREATEST tyrants in modern history has been the "Internal Robbing Service."

Created in Puerto Rico, they and the Federal Reserve are controlled by foreign bankers, and are no more "Federal" than Federal Express. They have inflicted more injustices on the decent citizens of this country, than our entire prison population.

We already pay more for things than we should have to, and everything you buy is TAXED. They already TAKE from your paycheck or pension check throughout the year, and then every April 15th, they see how much MORE they can take.

You open a savings account to gain some "interest" on your money, and these pirates tax THAT!

The WORST of it, of course, (no matter WHERE you might stand on the tax system in this country)........is what the government DOES with our tax dollars.

If you work hard for a living, you AREN'T busting your hump so they can give it away to OTHER people, overseas, and to foreign people who don't even belong here.

We ALL know the "bums"....no, not everyone on welfare is a bum, but come on now........each one of us knows SOMEBODY out there perfectly capable of working, and they aren't even TRYING to find a job, because the "handouts" are an EASIER way to get the beer and the smokes.

They'd much rather just sit on their butts and let YOU sweat for their "party money." They've learned to make it a way of life, and will SURELY NOT be voting for Cain or Romney next year.

The IRS has helped fund their way through life by milking as much money out of taxpayers as they can. They are the government's "thugs", if you will. Anyone who has ever had to deal with them, knows exactly what I'm talking about. They would steal flies from a blind spider, and have ruined the lives of hundreds of thousands in this country. Wanna see a REALLY GOOD example?.......go into the archives and read my story of "Joe Louis, American."

Herman Cain's "9-9-9" plan would effectively ABOLISH the IRS. A FLAT tax would put them out of business, because there'd be NOTHING LEFT TO TAKE!

This would virtually FORCE those crooks in Washington to LIVE and operate within THEIR means-------and wouldn't THAT be a novel turn-around?

Out here in the private sector, NOBODY could complain about somebody "not paying their share", because everyone would be taxed at the same rate. The "RICH GUY's" 9% would be a whole lot more money than YOURS is.......so YOU aren't getting tagged any harder than HE is. It doesn't get more fair, than an "across the board tax" He pays more than you do, because he MAKES your than you do.

And there'd still be ample money to run the government, services, defense, etc.

What there WOULDN'T BE,,,,,,,,,,is money to WASTE on "crap grants" and giveaways. That is NOT what our tax dollars have ever been meant for.

You know, we fought a revolution once before......over these exact same things.........government intrusion into private lives, and heavy taxes. We aren't very far right now from doing it again. It would probably be better for EVERYODY if it doesn't come to that, and we can get this corrupt system turned around, before there are no other options.

If Joe Biden had lived in the 18th century, he'd be King George's "right hand man" (or "LEFT", in HIS case).

The "Patriotic" thing to do is to take our country back and make sure that the new guys understand WHO THEY WORK FOR.

WE as a whole, have allowed this crap to happen and continue to exist. It is our job to correct it........in fact, read the Declaration of Independence and you'll find it's our DUTY to throw these guys out, without bloodshed if possible, but to throw them out nonetheless!

What I've written here this morning, a lot of you have never thought about. You haven't even NOTICED what's been happening to us, because the corruption has set-in like RUST.......little by little........ever-so-gradually so it might creep by without catching much attention.

Cain's plan IS "bold", as he admitted last night. But isn't that what our country was built upon?

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Oh boy! good points. Maybe we should take Obama up on the "shovel ready jobs" and clean up Washington, if you know what I mean.

I think that this Occupy thing is going to morph into riots, we already have litter, drugs other other garbage related issues.

I certainly hope it won't come to that, but usually what happens in Europe, comes across the pond eventually.

-- Posted by KH Gal on Wed, Oct 12, 2011, at 9:28 AM
OK. I'll readily admit that i'm not an economist or an accountant, so my math may be off, but i fail to see how Cains 9-9-9 tax plan will result in a tax savings. If i'm understanding the plan correctly it calls for replacing all current taxes with 9% tax on corporate income; 9% personal tax rate, and a 9% federal sales tax.

There's also Cains strong support of a "Fair Tax", A 23% national sales tax on all new goods and services. Is this "Fair Tax" a part of the 9-9-9 plan or a separate entity altogether?

If it's in addition to his 9-9-9 plan, then the total federal sales tax burden would jump to 32% on everything you buy (23% fair tax + 9% federal sales tax). Now add to that a 6% state sales tax in Idaho(I don't think that the federal government can constitutionally tell a state that they CAN NOT charge a sales tax) and you're now up to paying a 38% tax on everything you buy PLUS still paying 9% federal income tax and 8% Idaho state tax.

Now if you completely remove the 23% fair tax from the equation the 9-9-9 plan still calls for a national sales tax of 9% in addition to the 6% sales tax that Idaho charges. Effectively charging you 15% on anything you purchase PLUS the 9% income tax and a 8% State income tax.

The Median Elmore county income is $35,256, which places it in the 15% federal tax bracket. Add to that your state tax (8%) and state sales tax (6%) and you're paying 23% in income tax(state and federal) and 6% in sales tax.

Under 9-9-9 you would pay 17% in income tax(9% federal + 8% state) BUT 15% in sales taxes (9% federal + 6% state). Where are the savings?

-- Posted by Amuzeme on Thu, Oct 13, 2011, at 1:06 AM
Ok. I can see your points on this, and I agree that what we have currently isn't working. Way too complicated. But i'm not quite ready to just concede that Cains plan is going to be any better just because he's a successful businessman. Successful businessmen have made bad decisions and mistakes before. I however can see some merit in your statement that this just might keep people from spending beyond their means.

If you look at the current federal income tax brackets of 10%, 15%, 25%, 28%, 33% and 35% Cains plan seems to hit those in the lower brackets the hardest.

If you're currently paying 10% federal income tax, Cains plan will reduce it to 9%. At the same time though it ADDS an additional 9% in federal sales tax. A net tax INCREASE of 8%. The 15% bracket sees a net INCREASE of 3%. 25% bracket sees a DECREASE of 5%, 28% DECREASES by 10%....and so on. But these increases/decreases only apply to what you actually spend.

Those in the lower brackets are less likely to spend extravagantly because the increase in sales tax makes it prohibitive. Those in the higher tax brackets will spend MORE because they now have more disposable cash. Theoretically, this makes sense.

Thanks for your input. This was just the kind of perspective I was looking for when I posed the question. I'm not quite ready to jump on the "Cain Train", but I can hear the whistle.

-- Posted by Amuzeme on Thu, Oct 13, 2011, at 11:57 AM
I think was is the most appealing is that Cain wants to actually toss an archaic system out and make something simpler for everyone to understand.

I for one, appreciate his straight talk.

-- Posted by KH Gal on Thu, Oct 13, 2011, at 12:40 PM
1 ST THING....THANKS HOMMER FOR THE INFO.

GOOD read made sense,I dont think many will complain about reducing the size of gevernment.Most people dont realize how redundant it is.I thinks it can be reduced and most wouldnt even notice it,The poloticians dont want it reduced.jUST REMOVAL OF REDUNDANCY WILL SAVE BILLIONS.

I dont think people are against cutting,they want to know why???? corporations get to pay O taxes.So therefore they feel they are getting the short end of the stick.NOW realize I AM TALKING ABOUT THOSE OF US WHO DO PAY TAXES.sO THEY DONT SEE CUTTING WITHOUT RAISING REVENUE AS VIABLE TO SOLVE THE SITUATION.in SHORT...... THE WILL OUGHT TO BE THERE TO DO BOTH....NOW.I think the people have the will the poloticians dont.

-- Posted by lamont on Fri, Oct 14, 2011, at 7:07 PM
ZOOK.....REALLY READ WHAT HOMER POSTED.....WHAT YOUR SAYING IS NOT THAT SIMPLE I WISH IT WAS.

-- Posted by lamont on Fri, Oct 14, 2011, at 8:43 PM

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