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Kim Kovac

What is SENATE BILL NO. 1113

Posted Saturday, February 19, 2011, at 10:55 AM
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  • How about posting the definition of "basic education". Then we need to look at whatever it is that students need to learn and whatever it is that teachers need to teach. Next, we need to understand the difference between curricular and "extra" curricular. If we do these things we might have a great start in solving our education problems and the fiscal issues? Rather then fix and refix a broken system how about we start over - at the beginning.

    -- Posted by bob8492 on Sat, Feb 19, 2011, at 4:23 PM
  • How dare Luna, as the head of education for Idaho, DARE to propose anything that would actually EDUCATE and God forbid cut the endless spending habits of local districts for those things that are not actually mandated under the law.

    How dare the head of education for Idaho put a focus on EDUCATION?

    Our local MHSD officials should take/make note.

    Bob, you can find what is mandated by law, for the State of Idaho, for education here:

    http://law.justia.com/idaho/codes/2010/title33/title33.html

    We are said to be the richest nation yet have the most poory educated students compared to places like Japan and Germany.

    -- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sun, Feb 20, 2011, at 8:29 AM
  • Good question; what is "Basic" Education?

    The following minimum courses of study in mandatory subjects are required in nearly all U.S. high schools:

    Science (usually two years minimum, normally biology, chemistry and physics)

    Mathematics (usually two years minimum, normally including algebra, geometry, pre-calculus, statistics, and even calculus)

    English (usually four years minimum, including literature, humanities, composition, oral languages, etc.)

    Social sciences (usually three years minimum, including various history, government/economics courses)

    Physical education (at least one year)

    These are the basics. Do you agree?

    Here is are some interesting comments about American Education:

    According to a 1999 article by William J. Bennett, former U.S. Secretary of Education, increased levels of spending on public education have not made the schools better. Among many other things, the article cites the following statistics:

    Between 1960 and 1995, U.S. public school spending per student, adjusted for inflation, increased by 212%.

    In 1994, less than half of all U.S. public school employees were teachers.

    Out of 21 industrialized countries, U.S. 12th graders ranked 19th in math, 16th in science, and last in advanced physics.

    A 2008 report by The Heritage Foundation provides the following chart based on data from the US Department of Education indicating no real improvement in reading scores, while per student expenditure more than doubles from $4,060 in 1970 to $9,266 in 2005.

    In the 2006 assessment, the U.S. ranked 35th out of 57 in mathematics and 29th out of 57 in science. Reading scores could not be reported due to printing errors in the instructions of the U.S. test booklets. U.S. scores were behind those of most other developed nations.[109] While US teens' performance was mediocre in the Programme for International Student Assessment tests, which emphasizes problem solving, US fourth and eighth graders tested above average on the Trends in International Mathematics and Science Study tests, which emphasizes traditional learning. (OECD's Programme for International Student Assessment)

    In 2010, American students rank 17th in the world. The Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development says that this is due to focusing on the low end of performers. All of the recent gains have been made, deliberately, at the low end of the socioeconomic scale and among the lowest achievers. The country has been outrun, the study says, by other nations because the US has not done enough to encourage the highest achievers.(Reed, Matt (12 December 2010). "Tackling 'achievement gap' hurts US schools". Melbourne, Florida: Florida Today. pp. 1B)

    -- Posted by kimkovac on Sun, Feb 20, 2011, at 9:59 AM
  • reply to OpinionMissy: I know where to find what is mandated by Idaho Education law. I am trying my best to encourage other people who are interested in our educational issues to understand the basics of the system. My experience leads me to believe that asking the right questions frequently gets people thinking. Just telling the answers most often turns people off to really understanding the problems and potential solutions. It is within our power to go back to step one and address these proposed fixes in a way that brings people together.

    -- Posted by bob8492 on Sun, Feb 20, 2011, at 10:09 AM
  • Kim: you overwhelm us with the exuberance of your verbosity!

    -- Posted by bob8492 on Sun, Feb 20, 2011, at 5:08 PM
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